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Well, considering only the Gospels for a moment, the majority opinion is that Jesus said or did something and the Gospel writers wrote it down. I suppose that's word of mouth, but you could also call it eyewitness testimony from multiple sources.
With out word of mouth we wouldnt be discussing this, but the fact that Religion is based on word of mouth,
I don't think that I or any other Christian has been given that job. If I thought I could "prove" God or Jesus or Christianity, I would review my thinking because I must have made a mistake. All I can do, all anyone can do, is look at the evidence and decide what path they are going to take. I happen to believe the evidence and reasoning leads to belief in God, Jesus, and Christianity, but some don't. That's the way the ball crumbles.
you guys are on the defensive having to prove it to us.
Coming to your face? It wasn't a Christian who started this thread. But I deny saying that it's real because you can't prove it's not.
its not fair to come to our faces and say its real because we cant prove its not.
Originally posted by NotAConsumer
reply to post by charles1952
You are allowed to do what you want but its not fair to come to our faces and say its real because we cant prove its not.edit on 17-4-2013 by NotAConsumer because: (no reason given)
Atheists do not have faith. They believe what they can see, taste, touch, prove, compute.
Originally posted by UncleBingo
reply to post by Pardon?
Your assuming I'm christian? If not, then why group my comments to such as a way to explain your point of view? Huh....interesting. Tell me, do you understand the basis for religion? I am simply not a worshiper, nor a disbeliever. I am simply above that concept in belief as you would put it. Above many other silly things humans do as well like superficial social pleasantries for instance. I have no need or emotional tie to most of humanity as I find it rather primitive in thought and execution.
To me, atheists are just as bad as Christians...whining about belief and disbelief at levels only a child would endure, just because one side thinks they are right in their assertions over the other. Each shouting louder than the other so that they get the last word.
Petty at best. Such a waste of energy to dwell on exacts within the human perception which is a very flawed concept by the way.
And I do not feel you are understanding my use of the word faith. You are putting a religious meaning on it whereas I am not. For an atheist to do so, if comical, is the very point I am trying to make.
I have not read any whining from atheists in this thread at the levels of a child as you put it. Perhaps you would like to provide a link to the offending replies.
Originally posted by UncleBingo
I am simply not a worshiper, nor a disbeliever. I am simply above that concept in belief as you would put it. Above many other silly things humans do as well like superficial social pleasantries for instance. I have no need or emotional tie to most of humanity as I find it rather primitive in thought and execution.
To me, atheists are just as bad as Christians...whining about belief and disbelief at levels only a child would endure, just because one side thinks they are right in their assertions over the other. Each shouting louder than the other so that they get the last word.
Petty at best. Such a waste of energy to dwell on exacts within the human perception which is a very flawed concept by the way.
I have certainly wondered the same thing myself.
Originally posted by Cogito, Ergo Sum
reply to post by grainofsand
The inference that dismissing it is based on faith might make believers feel better about it all, but this seems either knowingly dishonest, or a delusion in itself. Could it be part of a coping mechanism re the cognitive dissonance
I have a fairly good all round understanding of the biological, psychological and sociological aspects or traits of our species but continue to be fascinated by the various spiritual/religious beliefs people have, even though I do not subscribe to such viewpoints myself.
Originally posted by UncleBingo
reply to post by grainofsand
Once you have a broad understanding of what we are as a species it would be beneath you as well.