Department of Homeland Security Insider Update: "It Has Begun."

Originally posted by begoodbees
reply to post by DelMarvel

 

Why not? Spend all you want, well print more, seems to be the motto these days. After all it's just paper.

I repeat: In the current political climate there is no way the federal government is going to replace locally financed law enforcement with federal employees.

I can't believe the amount of nonsense I've been reading in this post regarding Cyprus.

First of all, what is happening in Cyprus should have happened a lot of years ago. The countries from Eastern Europe have been robbed sistematicly for the past 20 years through Cyprus off-shores operating through Cyprus banks. Every bad thing that you can imagine, arms trade, drugs trade, conning, human trafficking, bribes, all of the above and many more have been done through Cyprus off-shores and banks. MICROSOFT contract in Romania in 2004, ERICSSON contract in 2001, these are all contract thatve have surfaced in the last months but there are many more.

So please, if you have no idea about what has been happening in this part of the world, do some research before talking about some master scheme of the elites to enslave the world and in this scheme Cyprus is an innocent and collateral victim. Cyprus is not. Cyprus is controlled by black money and always has been. A simple google search for cyprus off-shores will offer you enough information from dozens of countries is Eastern Europe about shady business and bribes and so on. READ! LEARN! and afterwards judge.

Peace and once again, what is happening to Cyprus is a good thing

reply to post by bjax9er


The bankers are the ones who are in control of this. They are the ones who bank rolled the Communist revolution. They are the ones who bank roll the wars. They are the ones running the Fed and the Bank of England and the IMF. They are the ones buying our politicians. I think you're confusing the honest made wealthy in America, with the people who control most of the wealth. The true 1% of the world.

The Tea Party and the Occupiers were both responding to the same threat, but they couldn't put aside their differences long enough to see that. And now they've both been dispersed or absorbed back into the machine. We had a chance to work together but socialists/capitalists/Republicans/Democrats/Libertarians can never see each other as fellow humans against the elites in control.

reply to post by kobewan69


So no one in Cyprus is innocent? Average people losing their money deserve to reap the seeds sewn by Russian oligarchs and drug lords? Of course the money launders deserve what they get, but is than an excuse to punish the common Cypriot?

the fear mongering has begun !!!

remember that guy who killed his family expecting the US economy to collapse ?

I wonder if these types of threads are legally culpable

reply to post by Char-Lee


I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree. I don't buy the premise that most people -- especially gun-owners, trust their government.

Hell, ATS is a perfect example of people not trusting their government. Members here come from every conceivable political direction and are diametrically opposed to one another with many of their views, except for one: very few, if any, trust government.

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
the fear mongering has begun !!!

remember that guy who killed his family expecting the US economy to collapse ?

I wonder if these types of threads are legally culpable

Why are you here?

Most of us know what's coming but you seem to deny it? And with a join date of 2005 you especially should be aware of what's coming.

Peace

reply to post by evictiongnostic


I did not say that there are no innocent people in Cyprus. But let's be real, it was ok for everybody while it lasted, that's the reason nobody said nothing, and now it's not ok anymore.

And by the way, nobody is losing money, according to European Laws, regular savings of 100.000 Euros are guaranteed by the state, so even if the bank goes bankrupt the people will be reimbursed. And trust me, for a regular person in Cyprus, 100.000 EUR is a lot of money. It's mostly impossible to save that much in a country at war, and please remember that Cyprus is still just like the Coreean Peninsula, devided between the Turks and Cyprus.

So to answer you, no, the regular folks will not be directly affected by this, but the ones affected by this are the people that deserve to

reply to post by DelMarvel


I agree they wouldn't replace all of our law enforcement, but there does seem to be a growing number of them out patrolling our roads recently. You can find a decent number of people on here and other sites reporting seeing them doing basic traffic work.

Considering that the TSA spent $50 million on new uniforms for their molester brigade and Federal agencies are buying billions of bullets I don't think they're too concerned about federal budgets. The only belt tightening is going to happen to teachers, Medicare and other benefits for the little guy. Security, Defense and Legislatures will continue to be funded, though I'm sure they'll cut pay for the troops themselves if need be.

Originally posted by begoodbees
reply to post by CallYourBluff

 

If at all it will happen when they think we are stupid/brainwashed enough to give up our weapons. Until they can pull that off we are hopefully safe. Bit by bit our constitution has been eroded. We have the right to remain anonymous before our gov. yet we have license plates on our vehicles which is the same as having your name and address written on the back of your car. Kind of the opposite of anonymity wouldn't you say. We must carry a drivers license as well it we want to partake in society. I am sure those rules were implemented in the name of safety and security as well. Driving in most places is a necessity not a privilege. Why should we pay money and beg for the "privilege" of operating our own private property on a public street? What would have been said if England forced the colonists to register their horses every year for a price and carry a you can ride a horse card. People can be killed by horses too you know. They indoctrinate the young and then implement their plan over time. Think about the seatbelt laws. First tv commercials, then tv shows and movies were used as propaganda and after about 10 to 20 years of this they implement the law. They did the same with drunk driving in order to reap hefty profits even though speeding is more common and causes just as many accidents. The latest drive has been gay rights. They use propaganda over a decade or so to desensitize us to the idea and then they pass the legislation. We are not ripe yet but as long as we send our kids to public school and let them watch tv and listen to pop music we shall be assimilated sooner or later.

edit on 25-3-2013 by begoodbees because: typo

To tell you the truth, I hope your right. I live in the UK and can't wait for things to go tits up. I just don't see it happening. Like I said, it's the same story year after year and nothing ever happens.

Originally posted by kobewan69
I can't believe the amount of nonsense I've been reading in this post regarding Cyprus.

First of all, what is happening in Cyprus should have happened a lot of years ago. The countries from Eastern Europe have been robbed sistematicly for the past 20 years through Cyprus off-shores operating through Cyprus banks. Every bad thing that you can imagine, arms trade, drugs trade, conning, human trafficking, bribes, all of the above and many more have been done through Cyprus off-shores and banks. MICROSOFT contract in Romania in 2004, ERICSSON contract in 2001, these are all contract thatve have surfaced in the last months but there are many more.

So please, if you have no idea about what has been happening in this part of the world, do some research before talking about some master scheme of the elites to enslave the world and in this scheme Cyprus is an innocent and collateral victim. Cyprus is not. Cyprus is controlled by black money and always has been. A simple google search for cyprus off-shores will offer you enough information from dozens of countries is Eastern Europe about shady business and bribes and so on. READ! LEARN! and afterwards judge.

Peace and once again, what is happening to Cyprus is a good thing

You must have forgot about HSBC doing the same thing, and getting a little iddy biddy fine, and riding high. Nobody went to the pokey, that IS the problem. So, what's good about the dillemma in Cyprus, when ordinary people who have a bank account have to pay a levy of 10% out of what they hold in the bank, to bail out the bank, and by your reckoning then, there are no ordinary folk in Cyprus? Go on then, pull the other one! That also happened in Eire, and BTW, Eire is yet again tapping the EU as we write.

reply to post by smurfy


so all these people that "suffer" now, why did they accept all the black money in Europe in their country, why some of them were working ond fronting the Cyprus off-shores? Do you know tha you need a cypriot to start your Cyprus off-shore? Do you know how many people were doing that for the extra cash? I'm not saying all the people in Cyprus were bad, it's just that it had to be fixed somehow. And if the people there were not doing anything them I'm glad the EU and IMF did it.

reply to post by kobewan69


Alright, looking more into it, it does appear you are right that they have stepped back from taxing anything under 100,000. I'm all for seeing people who deserve it forced to pay for the bailout, but it will still end up affecting the average person. The banks are the ones who marketed the nation as an offshore haven, but this collapse will lead to high unemployment for the people who had nothing to do with that system and strip the country of its wealth.

Just as in all of these bank failures and bailouts of the past 6 years, the fault lies squarely in the banks themselves and their wealthy controllers and investors. Yet the banks are always the ones to recover first while the rest of us deal with the ramifications of their dirty deals.

reply to post by Cosmic911


They pull the trigger on their own destruction. The pact they have made will with death will greet them with welcome arms.

Isaiah 28

14 Therefore hear the word of the Lord, you scoffers
who rule this people in Jerusalem.
15 You boast, “We have entered into a covenant with death,
with the realm of the dead we have made an agreement.
When an overwhelming scourge sweeps by,
it cannot touch us,
for we have made a lie our refuge
and falsehood our hiding place.”
16 So this is what the Sovereign Lord says:

“See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone,
a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation;
the one who relies on it
will never be stricken with panic.
17 I will make justice the measuring line
and righteousness the plumb line;
hail will sweep away your refuge, the lie,
and water will overflow your hiding place.
18 Your covenant with death will be annulled;
your agreement with the realm of the dead will not stand.
When the overwhelming scourge sweeps by,
you will be beaten down by it.
19 As often as it comes it will carry you away;
morning after morning, by day and by night,
it will sweep through.”

What is the cornerstone? A thief takes, but saint gives. The cornerstone is the character of Christ, which is all that can protect them from the coming storm--giving. They lay a trap for themselves. When the thieves pull the trigger on their new ammunition, not a shot will injure the wrong person. They equip their own prisons. When the field is sown with a new crop, the old field will be tread over by the threshing cart and beaten with a rod. All we need to do is start at Isaiah 26:19 and read to the end of 28 to see God's plan.

Too fat for a good rest.

19 ...The understanding of this message
will bring sheer terror.
20 The bed is too short to stretch out on,
the blanket too narrow to wrap around you.