It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
And again, you don't seem to be recognizing that c is a constant. It doesn't go up or down.
Originally posted by greatfriendbadfoe
reply to post by Arbitrageur
My question was alluding to c "going up" ie becoming faster than light.
There's a flaw in that thinking.
Originally posted by Robonakka
Quantum entanglement is why SETI is a waste of time. Any civilization that has mastered space travel uses QE to communicate. Radio waves are useless at interstellar distances. QE cannot be eavesdropped on.
When we can discern a moth in the water on one side of the pacific from the other then we will be able to decode radio waves from other planets. Cause it is the same thing.
Originally posted by Erno86
Photons have zero mass...which can generate thrust when they are ejected from an object, such as a nuts an bolts starship. The same principle is proven when photons are ejected from from the poles of some black holes near the speed of light. These massive black holes are too large to have any photon ejecta push them around with any significance --- but a freebird such as a flying saucer --- can and will generate thrust, when it is equipped with the same magnetic properties of these black holes; only on a much smaller scale.
The photons are sucked into the flying saucer to feed the hungry black hole photon engine, and ejected with tremendous thrust...so as the starship easily gets to the speed of light ---- and increases speed exponentially squared --- too many times the speed of light; into the superluminal realm.
The starship is protected from the dangers of superluminal speeds --- with the application of a computer controlled magnetic field --- that is generated from the black hole photon engine.
edit on 19-3-2013 by Erno86 because: spelling
As already explained, we can't say if it's instantaneous, due to limitations in measurement capability. We can and have put a limit on the slowest possible speed.
Originally posted by Kashai
Two particles moving in opposite directions and 99.99% the speed of light. After 11 billion years one particle enters the atmosphere of a planet, so does the other particle react instantaneously to the destiny of the other??
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
There's a flaw in that thinking.
Originally posted by Robonakka
Quantum entanglement is why SETI is a waste of time. Any civilization that has mastered space travel uses QE to communicate. Radio waves are useless at interstellar distances. QE cannot be eavesdropped on.
When we can discern a moth in the water on one side of the pacific from the other then we will be able to decode radio waves from other planets. Cause it is the same thing.
Even if you could use quantum entanglement for communication (and so far there's no indication you can), the entangled particles need to be separated before you can even attempt to use them for communication. And the process of separating the entangled particles is limited to the speed of light. So the idea that quantum entanglement is the key to faster than light communication doesn't make much sense to me, unless you know that 5000 years in the future you will want to send a message to a location 5000 light years away.
Then you could spend 5000 years sending the quantum entangled particle to the desired location, and after 5000 years, you could then communicate over the 5000 light years in an instant, if we ever figure out how that's possible (it may not be). But even in this example of instantaneous communication, you're still limited to the speed of light, because it took you 5000 years to move the entangled particles to where you wanted them to be.
Don't you get that?edit on 20-3-2013 by Arbitrageur because: clarification