US threatens Pakistan with sanctions over Iran gas pipeline

Found this to be very interesting. IMHO I think this is a good thing for Iran and Pakistan, not to mention if china gets in on the deal. Of course the US hates the idea, lol. US threatens Pakistan with sanctions over Iran gas pipeline

But I'd like to know everyone's thoughts on this little project.

Probably going to get my head kicked in for saying this so... here i go...

This is indeed a good thing for both Iran and Pakistan (even though both countries are under scrutiny at this moment).

Personally i believe that the US should consider looking at their own financial situation and look after their own population first before meddling with other countries and pouring much needed money down the drain.

Kindest respects

Rodinus

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Well, I'm not going to be kicking you in the head, lol. I agree with what you say. What do you think about the possibility of China getting in on this deal and the ramifications?

I think the whole world is sick of America's chest beating, sick of Israel's warmongering, and just plain sick of war.
The tough talk just creates more Anti-Americanism.

Millions upon millions of poor, hungry and unemployed in the US of A, yet the main concern among American politicians is to please Israel and that lunatic nutenyahoo.

Stop licking Israels boots - stand up for yourselves.

To regain the respect of the international community America should look after number 1 - The people of America.

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America should take care of it's own first. I will agree with you on that but the same can be said for every country in the world. However, I would like to see peoples view points on what a land based gas pipeline direct to China would do to the US stranglehold on resources in the region.

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I actually wouldn't be surprised if talks with the 2 parties concerned and china were already underway!

This would get China out of energy "trouble" and also into the oil race and strengthen their geoploitical position quite significantly.

What concerns me though that if they do end up with all that petrol on their hands then the rest of the world are going to have to look out for an Asian "USA Jr!"

Kindest respects

Rodinus

Originally posted by Rodinus
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What concerns me though that if they do end up with all that petrol on their hands then the rest of the world are going to have to look out for an Asian "USA Jr!"

Let’s hope that doesn't happen, lol (But not holding my breath). Even though China has been on abit of military building spree here lately. Plus it would, IMO, severely weaken US hold in the region (Middle East and Asia).

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A pipeline is a pipeline is a pipeline. In reality, there's no difference between one pipeline and another, save for where it's built and what it carries. If one country is allowed pipelines and another isn't, we are seeing hypocrisy in the flesh.

It's time we start putting sanctions on whatever countries are the most hypocritical.

Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
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It's time we start putting sanctions on whatever countries are the most hypocritical.

This has got to be one of the best ideas I've ever heard.

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Agreed too, but what gets me is... who sanctions the Hypocrites... the people?

Kindest respects

Rodinus

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For the purpose of a better insight to you're post, why is this subject place in this paticular forum. "Philosophy and Metaphysics" ?

Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
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A pipeline is a pipeline is a pipeline. In reality, there's no difference between one pipeline and another, save for where it's built and what it carries. If one country is allowed pipelines and another isn't, we are seeing hypocrisy in the flesh.

It's time we start putting sanctions on whatever countries are the most hypocritical.

How does one sanction oneself?

That would be the government committing suicide and I am under the impression that procedures are in place to make sure any time a governing body starts loosing its control of its citizens an event will happen and War follows with very convincing reasons by the way its portrayed. Government regains a majority stronghold over its citizens and the ball rolls again or another round begins.

Even with Hillary out of a job it looks like little has changed with US foreign attitudes. It is a sad state of affairs when one nations perceived security is dependent on another nations insecurity. Energy supply is a very important part of national stability.

I wonder how quick US attitude would change if it was US contractors building the pipeline and managed by US industry? Sure there is still the nuclear issue as the initial reason for the sanctions, but it is having the opposite effect as Iran becomes more isolated and less able to trust, placing more demand on developing nukes for its own security as the international community turns it back on them.

I am not at all surprised by this action considering the situation. Iran is already in the bad books so it does not care what the US thinks, as for how Pakistan responds to this ultimatum will be interesting as the US has been applying a lot of pressure to sanctioned nations trading partners to get their own way.

Sure trade sanctions are better than than military action, but the long term effect do tend to target the children and other less empowered of society rather than resolve the issues when they fail to work. Global security is the issue in which all nations are looking for the same thing, why can't we find it?

And the eye shifted it's gaze

Amid our BS and threats, our president decides to go over there on March 20. Bright timing... does our govt and president think they are bullet proof?? Maybe...

freebeacon.com...

It's not just this gas-pipeline. They'll also lay an oil pipeline from Iran to Gwadar, and Iran is going to build a major oil refinery in Gwadar. Gwadar deepsea port is already in place and in Chinese hands. When the Gwadar Oil City is ready, they'll have pipelines from Gwadar to China. China will likely establish a naval base at Gwadar (near the Strait of Hormuz). This will change the world!

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Originally posted by BoogieMan911


To regain the respect of the international community

Did you ever stop to consider that Americans by and large don't want their respect?

After all, Child Pornography is legal in more nations then it is illegal; most nations aren't free nations but dictatorships of one sort or another. Heck in some nations, they still use their left hand to wipe themselves. Look at Europe, they created special star chamber type courts where the accused is guilty until proven innocent for "crimes against women"(any sort of crime from harassment to DV). Do you honestly think I want the "respect" of those type of cowardly, despotic peoples?

Originally posted by korathin

Did you ever stop to consider that Americans by and large don't want their respect?

Well, the way they act certainly doesn't engender any respect at all. Arrogance doesn't really cut it though so this "our way or the highway" brand of foreign policy only serves to isolate the USA, and rightly so!

After all, Child Pornography is legal in more nations then it is illegal;

Now that's a rather broad and sweeping statement. Care to list all those nations where child pornography is legal?

most nations aren't free nations but dictatorships of one sort or another.

Yep, including the good ol' US of A.

Heck in some nations, they still use their left hand to wipe themselves.

Say what?

Look at Europe, they created special star chamber type courts where the accused is guilty until proven innocent for "crimes against women"(any sort of crime from harassment to DV). Do you honestly think I want the "respect" of those type of cowardly, despotic peoples?

Much like the USA then in that regard, where you are arrested, beaten and jailed without any proof of guilt. Hell, they even send in drones and blow the crap out of innocent people without a) actually knowing exactly who they are, and b) without any judicial process or proof of guilt.

As for the crimes against women bit... ever taken the time to look at the stats for crimes against women in the USA?

sanctions?? does that mean the U.S. taxpayers will only have to foot the bill for 100 bazillion in financial aid to pakistan this year instead of the usual 300 bazillion?

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This has to be a good bad thing for the USA - But never fear, they will just go on killing until they get their way.

When will countries finally wise up and stand together against the constant dictatorship of the US