Plagues of Genesis and Obama's Visit to Israel - Nisan the 9th and Rabbi Kaduri

reply to post by MarkJS


So, for those who have sinned, condemed God and then eventually found their faith over many years, they are ok. The guy who's kid just died of cancer, lost his job and house curses God and his faith the day before this "rapture" occurs doesn't get the chance to do so. I guess he is just out of luck and will eternally be burning in hellfire. Doesn't sound fair or just to me. Sounds like they system is broken.

CJ

Originally posted by ColoradoJens
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

"Love is patient and love is kind" - obviously not from what you are saying. It is neither patient or kind. What about the Christian idea you can atone for your sins? Looks like there will be a couple billion who never had that chance. Tough luck for them, eh? I guess after all love is not patient or kind - it murders billions.

CJ

Wrong. When Jesus entered the belly of the fish (Hell), he cleared it out. He is the first fruits of the new man. He is the Shepherd who goes after the 1 sheep when 99 are saved. The sign of Jonah is the three days in the fish. Three days is 3000 years. Here is the timetable.

Epistle of Barnabas 15:4

Give heed, children, what this meaneth; He ended in six days. He meaneth this, that in six thousand years the Lord shall bring all things to an end; for the day with Him signifyeth a thousand years; and this He himself beareth me witness, saying; Behold, the day of the Lord shall be as a thousand years. Therefore, children, in six days, that is in six thousand years, everything shall come to an end."

2 Days -Adam to Abraham 2000 Years of Age 1 (FATHER)
2 Days -Abraham to Jesus 2000 Years of Age 2 (SON)
2 Days -Jesus to Today 2000 Years of Age 3 (HOLY SPIRIT)
1 Day -Day of Rest (Day of the Lord) 1000 years (SALVATION)
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7 Days (7000 years - Approximately 6000 have passed)

When Jesus said that he would raise the temple in three days if they destroyed it, he was speaking of the next three thousand years after Day 4. We are now at day 6.

Hosea 6

“Come, let us return to the Lord.
He has torn us to pieces
but he will heal us;
he has injured us
but he will bind up our wounds.
2 After two days he will revive us;
on the third day he will restore us,
that we may live in his presence.
3 Let us acknowledge the Lord;
let us press on to acknowledge him.

ALL YOU HAVE to do is acknowledge him. That's it. Belief and confession of your sins to the Father opens the gateway of faith and salvation. All mankind is invited to walk the path of Christ. Christ is Adam, the first Father of mankind and the redeemer of mankind. It's a choice to join the loaf of bread or walk away from the gift that the Son of Man (All of mankind) has worked for. We started in unity as one soul and we can return to that one soul by choice. Right now, we are in multiplicity. Atonement is At One Ment.

Who atoned for our sin?

Adam.

1 Corinthians 15

If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”[f]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we[g] bear the image of the heavenly man.

Who is Adam?

Colossians 1

15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

How can we confirm that the Redeemer is also the one that first sacrificed himself so that we can rise back to God (Baptism)? Remember, YOU must be born again. True for all of us as One loaf of bread.

Job 19

25 I know that my redeemer[c] lives,
and that in the end he will stand on the earth.[d]
26 And after my skin has been destroyed,
yet[e] in[f] my flesh I will see God;
27 I myself will see him
with my own eyes—I, and not another.
How my heart yearns within me!
28 “If you say, ‘How we will hound him,
since the root of the trouble lies in him,[g]’
29 you should fear the sword yourselves;
for wrath will bring punishment by the sword,
and then you will know that there is judgment.[h]”

Job knew three things:

1) He would have eyes to see in a new body
2) He knew the Redeemer
3) The same one that is the root of the trouble is the same one that is the Redeemer

1 Corinthians 10

17 Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all share the one loaf.

Of the entire loaf does not rise, there is no salvation.

Back to Hosea 6

2 After two days he will revive us;
on the third day he will restore us,
that we may live in his presence.

We will all be in his presence when the enemy is his footstool. On either side of a loaf of bread is the heel.

Genesis 3

14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,

“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[a] and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”

There is one that spends eternity in hell. Not everyone on Earth has the Son of God as a Father. The seed of the serpent is also present here in this place.

reply to post by EnochWasRight


wow, that was a lot of parables. Glad to hear we have another 1000 years to go. I was getting worried there.

CJ

reply to post by EnochWasRight

Do you literally believe in a eternal torment whereas people will burn for all eternity in a big vat of fire, enoch?...Do you literally believe that God is gonna burn potentially 9/10 of the people on this planet?..I mean thats what you basically come up with if you believe "many are called" but "few are chosen", Unless I misinterpret the meaning to this.


Sorry not meaning to go off topic..just was responding to one of your earlier remarks in this thread.

Originally posted by gadfire
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

Do you literally believe in a eternal torment whereas people will burn for all eternity in a big vat of fire, enoch?...Do you literally believe that God is gonna burn potentially 9/10 of the people on this planet?..I mean thats what you basically come up with if you believe "many are called" but "few are chosen", Unless I misinterpret the meaning to this.

You obviously didn't read the post you are responding to. There is a plan that extends over 7000 years. That plan allows for the salvation of humanity. The only hell you bind here is the one you create. As for heaven, your new robe (Body) and crown (Mind) depends on your work here. Some people will choose to willingly reject God's gift of life and salvation.

Given 1000 years of teaching and revelation of all things, I think that even the hardest hearts will be changed. As for those who willingly undermine the liberty and freedoms of others from the evil in their hearts, this state of being may very well lead to hell. Love covers a multitude of sin. Lack of love keeps those sins present.

reply to post by EnochWasRight


So you don't believe in this eternal tormenting fire?

And I read your post, just I was curious your views on hell.
I dont mean to hijack this thread.

I think hell is emptied right now. Paul makes it clear that both the righteous and wicked would be on Earth in the last day. Enoch One makes the same claim. There are 7 billion+ souls on Earth presently. I believe we are in the first resurrection. Read Revelation 20. Baptism is immersion into the water and we are all baptized here on Earth right now for the purpose of repentance. Matthew 3 makes it clear what happens to those who do not repent. They are baptized by fire. Is it possible baptism of fire still leads to Spirit Baptism? I think so.

Matthew 3

7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 8 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. 9 And do not think you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. 10 The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.

11 “I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with[c] the Holy Spirit and fire. 12 His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”

Regardless of the outcome of hell as a reality, the Bible makes it clear that our hearts are fully known.

John 2

23 Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name.[d] 24 But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. 25 He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person.

Originally posted by gadfire
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

So you don't believe in this eternal tormenting fire?

And I read your post, just I was curious your views on hell.
I dont mean to hijack this thread.

edit on 12-3-2013 by gadfire because: (no reason given)

Thank you