Fake Planes in the Sky; Spraying Chemicals Into the Air, Being Controlled By Aliens?

There has been many claims of people starting to see fake planes in the sky, these claims started about 2011-2013 and are now expanding more with evidence. But could it be faked or hoax is the question everyone asks, I like to use inconclusive due to lack of evidence too, but hey this is ATS right? Different minds, different opinions. But back to the problem at hand these planes do not look like ordinary planes [no windows, no doors, and no real detail.] but maybe a poor recreation of one. (I live next to an airport and air planes fly over my house everyday). These planes could just look poor because of the video camera and how far the plane is, these are just the possible fake/hoax factors. The uploader of these videos ScuminattiDisclosure claims that these planes are controlled by alien reptilians and beleives that these planes are holograms, it does make sense to a certain extent that these planes don't have no logos on them and are a bit odd leaving behind a trail of smoke many of who claim to be chemicals. These planes though, they are very strange because they do something I've never seen before...they fade into existence and it doesn't really look like any CGI software they actually fade with they're color and pixels in sync. I don't know about this one guys but lets break it down together. (Message to the mods: please don't move this thread, this man claimed it to be an alien reptilian so I'm not going to change the original context of his information so it should be in the Aliens and UFO forum thanks.)

reply to post by Vrillion


You should check out the photos ATS member waynos takes of high altitude jets. if the youtube guy had the right gear and used it properly, there would be no need for this thread.

reply to post by Chadwickus


Links

Not only are they "spraying", but they aren't even real planes now? What exactly are they putting in the water in this country anyway? Are there really people THIS stupid?

So now instead of lights in the sky, the planes are now ufos as well? I give up on credible ufology is this thread takes off.

reply to post by bknapple32


Why not open new ideas? Hey people used to believe the earth was flat and you would fall off if you would pass the edge.

reply to post by Vrillion


A giant leap in comparing the circumference of the earth to ufo's somehow changing into airplanes...

Heres some logic that will help this topic. Why not find out where these planes are going. track them. or are these planes magically only seen in the middle of a flight path.

reply to post by bknapple32


As if any of us have the money to technologically track these planes, and it was just an analogy UFO's were seen even during the ancient Egyptian times, that is why I stated the comparison.

reply to post by samuel1990


Here's one I found...



He has others but I'm not going to trawl through all his posts to find them, hopefully he'll drop by.

reply to post by Vrillion


Not very many people actually thought the earth was flat.

It's pretty much been common knowledge since ancient Greek times.

As for not being able to track planes, well see my post above and then visit www.flightradar24.com...

You can even get flight trackers on your phone these days...

I've been mulling over something I observed for a few months now and this thread is the first thing that has described what I saw more or less. I wasn't getting much luck googling, and without a photo... no point.

Anyways... was driving north on I-35 from Waco toward Dallas. I noticed what looked like a large passenger jet flying quite low (as in dusting crops low) and somewhat slow. I'm used to parallax and perspective being difficult to judge so I chalked it up to me just not seeing it right. But it was still strange for there to be a plane up close like that out in basically wide open farm land.

It started banking to the right and went over the freeway in front of me until it had done a 180 and was now about 100-150 yards from the side of the freeway and looked like it was slowing down.

It was perfectly "flat" grey without any sort of shine. There weren't any windows or seams... and no rotors or other methods of suspension visible.

As I came up to it it was as clearly visible to me as if a large passenger jet were at the other end zone on a football field... and it was just hovering over a building. As I continued with traffic (it was a construction zone and no shoulder to get off on ) it stayed perceptually to hover over the building and just stayed there until I couldn't see it in my mirrors anymore.

I was pretty careful to be looking for lots of reference points to make sure I was seeing it the way it seemed to be and it kept holding up. Typically though, no photos. Couldn't get off the road in time... and I'm a Luddite regarding my phone choice. *blush*

Can only take it for what it is. I've mentioned it to a couple of personal friends but nobody recalled seeing anything similar themselves... and I haven't seen anything the past couple of times I've driven back through that area.

If it looks like a plane and flies like one then my guess is that it's a....plane.

You know I heard of chemtrails for a while but only after reading about them for a while did I ever see two independently verified photos of disc like objects spraying chemtrails or leaving or contrail.

I'll add the photos in a sec, but very cool post Vrillion I've only just came across the possible alien connection to chemtrails myself. I saw Scuminatti's vids but cannot see what he says he sees, don't know why.. Maybe it's not there to begin with but I'm sure in one of his videos he has the weirdest looking plane. It looked like some sort of Allied WW2 bombed with black tailwings and no other markings, And it simply disappeared. Very odd!

I also read a recent piece on Pakalert from a doctor claiming the chemtrails give you a flu like virus without showing the typical symptoms of any known flu strands.

Very interesting but douchebags will just say its air traffic etc etc! What do they say about only realizing the merit of evidence once it kills you. Wake up.

Cheers for sharing

"I saw this chemtrail forming to the west of Vail, Colorado on March 7, 2008 at 5:23PM. As I zoomed in full with a 70 to 300 lens on my D200 Nikon, there appeared to be no plane in front of the chemtrail - like it was forming out of thin air. After shooting several shots, there was another plane-less chemtrail rising to the west just before sunset. It was spooky. When I downloaded the pictures, there was a halo shape at the front of the chemtrails in some of the images and absolutely nothing visible in others."

Who's to say discs cannot change into our rudimentary bi plane aircrafts. Seeing old world war 2 planes is odd enough but flying discs with chemtrails now too....

Waiting for the lashing. Don't shoot the messenger.

reply to post by yoursteppingonmytoes


Wow odd photos. Waiting for others to dissect cause I cant

reply to post by yoursteppingonmytoes


Thanks. Were did you get the photos from?

reply to post by HawkeyeNation


Cloaking device or shapeshifting maybe?

reply to post by Chadwickus


But these planes don't fade into existence like the ones in the video. These are actual planes.

reply to post by Vrillion


Got them from here "Aerosol Anomalies"

I forgot, also the link to the main page of chemtrails. Chemtrails and Geoengineering


Bibliotecapleyades is awesome

Anyone who tells you there isn't any form of aerial spraying going on up there needs to do some research...

United States Patent and Trademark Office,

1957075 – May 1, 1934 – Airplane Spray Equipment
2097581 – November 2, 1937 – Electric Stream Generator – Referenced in 3990987
2409201 – October 15, 1946 – Smoke Producing Mixture
2476171 – July 18, 1945 – Smoke Screen Generator
2480967 – September 6, 1949 – Aerial Discharge Device
2550324 – April 24, 1951 – Process For Controlling Weather
2510867 – October 9, 1951 – Method of Crystal Formation and Precipitation
2582678 – June 15, 1952 – Material Disseminating Apparatus For Airplanes
2591988 – April 8, 1952 – Production of TiO2 Pigments – Referenced in 3899144
2614083 – October 14, 1952 – Metal Chloride Screening Smoke Mixture
2633455 – March 31, 1953 – Smoke Generator
2688069 – August 31, 1954 – Steam Generator – Referenced in 3990987
2721495 – October 25, 1955 – Method And Apparatus For Detecting Minute Crystal Forming Particles Suspended in a Gaseous Atmosphere
2730402 – January 10, 1956 – Controllable Dispersal Device
2801322 – July 30, 1957 – Decomposition Chamber for Monopropellant Fuel – Referenced in 3990987
2881335 – April 7, 1959 – Generation of Electrical Fields

3899144 – August 12, 1975 – Powder contrail generation
3940059 – February 24, 1976 – Method For Fog Dispersion
3940060 – February 24, 1976 – Vortex Ring Generator
3990987 – November 9, 1976 – Smoke generator
3992628 – November 16, 1976 – Countermeasure system for laser radiation
3994437 – November 30, 1976 – Broadcast dissemination of trace quantities of biologically active chemicals
4042196 – August 16, 1977 – Method and apparatus for triggering a substantial change in earth characteristics and measuring earth changes

4415265 – November 15, 1983 – Method and apparatus for aerosol particle absorption spectroscopy
4470544 – September 11, 1984 – Method of and Means for weather modification
4475927 – October 9, 1984 – Bipolar Fog Abatement System
4600147 – July 15, 1986 – Liquid propane generator for cloud seeding apparatus
4633714 – January 6, 1987 – Aerosol particle charge and size analyzer
4643355 – February 17, 1987 – Method and apparatus for modification of climatic conditions
4653690 – March 31, 1987 – Method of producing cumulus clouds
4684063 – August 4, 1987 – Particulates generation and removal
4686605 – August 11, 1987 – Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth’s atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere
4704942 – November 10, 1987 – Charged Aerosol
4712155 – December 8, 1987 – Method and apparatus for creating an artificial electron cyclotron heating region of plasma
4744919 – May 17, 1988 – Method of dispersing particulate aerosol tracer
4766725 – August 30, 1988 – Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor
4829838 – May 16, 1989 – Method and apparatus for the measurement of the size of particles entrained in a gas
4836086 – June 6, 1989 – Apparatus and method for the mixing and diffusion of warm and cold air for dissolving fog
4873928 – October 17, 1989 – Nuclear-sized explosions without radiation

5984239 – November 16, 1999 – Weather modification by artificial satellite
6025402 – February 15, 2000 – Chemical composition for effectuating a reduction of visibility obscuration, and a detoxifixation of fumes and chemical fogs in spaces of fire origin
6030506 – February 29, 2000 – Preparation of independently generated highly reactive chemical species
6034073 – March 7, 2000 – Solvent detergent emulsions having antiviral activity
6045089 – April 4, 2000 – Solar-powered airplane
6056203 – May 2, 2000 – Method and apparatus for modifying supercooled clouds
6110590 – August 29, 2000 – Synthetically spun silk nanofibers and a process for making the same
6263744 – July 24, 2001 – Automated mobility-classified-aerosol detector
6281972 – August 28, 2001 – Method and apparatus for measuring particle-size distribution
6315213 – November 13, 2001 – Method of modifying weather
6382526 – May 7, 2002 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
6408704 – June 25, 2002 – Aerodynamic particle size analysis method and apparatus
6412416 – July 2, 2002 – Propellant-based aerosol generation devices and method
and the list goes on...

It's a wonder we can even see the sun at all.