I have lost tolerance for new immigrants(Taking our Jobs)

I have completely and utterly, lost all patience and tolerance for new immigrants coming into my country (Canada) and taking away employment opportunity for people who were born here.
Let me be clear ,..Iam not racist. I embrace all cultures and beliefs. This is not about that. This is plain and simply about not enough jobs already, and our government is stupidly filling them with immigrants.
If you can't find employment you have no choice but to go on welfare, but omg, that makes you a third rate citizen.
While in one of my favorite shopping haunts today the cashier was conversing to another regular customer.
It seems, the customers daughter,who was a college graduate, applied for a job she had both education and experience for...but was passed over for a new immigrant. Now, that might in itself seem isolated..but it's not. Where I live, you go to any restaurant, fast food, coffee shop etc...and English is the second language. This town is overflowing with young people who should be flipping burgers but cannot get any work experience. Employers claim that the immigrants are harder workers,more reliable, etc. How do you know if you won't even give a local an interview? I know it's not just my town, or my province. I just can't freakin understand it. Government complains how much it has to dish out for social services, well damn ...stop inviting people into the country that take away our jobs. THERE ISN'T ENOUGH TO GO AROUND.
And icing on the cake I read this stupidity today...

Canada announces new startup visa program to attract entrepreneurs starting on April 1

thenextweb.com...

The program is the first of its kind in Canada and is being pitched as “a powerful incentive to attract individuals with great potential.” By giving immigrant entrepreneurs permanent residency and immediate access to a wide range of business partners, Canada hopes to position itself as a destination of choice for startups.

Now, at first this may seem a good idea...NOT. It doesn't mean more jobs for those born and bred here. They will hire from within their own culture...and who could blame them? I would!

It's sickening that we cannot survive in our own country.
/Rant off

Sorry, but America has been fighting this forever. Politicians must be politically correct at the cost of their citizens. They would look bad to the world if they did not treat their guests better than their family. That is their mindset I'm afraid.

By the way, canadian bacon is ham! Sorry, I always say that to Canadians.

I wish you luck with that. You will need it.

I believe all humans, no matter where they were born(which isn't something in anyone's control) have the right to seek a better life for themselves, wherever that may be.

Yes, sometimes that takes jobs away from citizens of the countries to move too, but immigration also has a habit of highlighting the incompetence of various governments. When there's not enough jobs for citizens, which is a problem in the US as well as Canada, and many other countries by the way, it's usually poor decision making practices by the government(s) which contributed greatly to the problem.

I just hate the idea that because someone happened to be born in Mexico, Guatemala, Romania, Kenya, among many other countries, that they don't have the right as humans on our planet to seek a better life for themselves. Sure they can go through immigration procedures for different countries but those by in large are faulty, broken systems in the first place, and shouldn't dictate where us humans can live, reside or earn a living on our planet.

Immigration in the first place in built upon the thought process that a country says this is ours, you can't enter and we have a greater right to this part of our planet than you do, even though we all share this planet and have no control over where or when we are born.

Im going to renounce my US citizenship, leave the country and then come back illegally so I can get all the special loans to open a business or all of the social service "entitlements"

They should be making the new immigrants go to where they are needed.

Saskatchewan has a people shortage because everyone seems to think its too cold.

I've seen problems there, such as not enough housing because there isn't enough housing to put people in, to build more houses.
They should never be immigrating into areas that already have job shortages.
That just proves the stupidity of our government.

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Government complains how much it has to dish out for social services, well damn ...stop inviting people into the country that take away our jobs. THERE ISN'T ENOUGH TO GO AROUND.

Welcome to the unsustainability of big government, cradle to grave socialism.

We're headed in that direction down here in the US of A. Maybe some people will learn from the experience you've shared. I'm not holding my breathe though.

S&F

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This seems to be a problem in most countries now. Clearly if there are no jobs for the citizens that are already there and their young coming of age, you should not be bringing in more.

There are no jobs for the young and no way for them to get a place and life of their own.

There must be an agenda here, something of which we are not being made aware. Mixing all the countries cultures so thoroughly that we all have no choice but to become one world under one Government may be the ultimate reason I don't know.

It could always be worse, you could join the EU...

Your immigration problems are nothing on the UK

Originally posted by Juggernog
Im going to renounce my US citizenship, leave the country and then come back illegally so I can get all the special loans to open a business or all of the social service "entitlements"

I too have thought of doing that as well.

American citizens (tax payers) always get the shaft from every direction.

Its as if America has been infiltrated by Traitors to give the shaft to us Americans. They are currently working on disarming us, and will probably give all of our guns away to our Southern border for a nice invasion.

Americans... always getting the shaft by our Traitors in charge.

Well the issue is that it allows a company, organization, business, etc. to exploit the system by paying the immigrant LESS money than the citizen --- am I correct?

So then that is the real issue. Immigration could be turned into a very positive thing, if these politicians worked hard to balance it out. Call it the Fair Business Act.

I see the immigrant as well as the citizen being exploited in this situation, to be honest.
Gotta look at who is really winning. The man who pays anyone the wages of a slave is directly trying to become a master over another life.

Originally posted by MysticPearl
I believe all humans, no matter where they were born(which isn't something in anyone's control) have the right to seek a better life for themselves, wherever that may be.

Yes, sometimes that takes jobs away from citizens of the countries to move too, but immigration also has a habit of highlighting the incompetence of various governments. When there's not enough jobs for citizens, which is a problem in the US as well as Canada, and many other countries by the way, it's usually poor decision making practices by the government(s) which contributed greatly to the problem.

I just hate the idea that because someone happened to be born in Mexico, Guatemala, Romania, Kenya, among many other countries, that they don't have the right as humans on our planet to seek a better life for themselves. Sure they can go through immigration procedures for different countries but those by in large are faulty, broken systems in the first place, and shouldn't dictate where us humans can live, reside or earn a living on our planet.

Immigration in the first place in built upon the thought process that a country says this is ours, you can't enter and we have a greater right to this part of our planet than you do, even though we all share this planet and have no control over where or when we are born.

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Can't say you are wrong in many of those thoughts, sounds like you are a One World Gov. type person so you may soon see your wish coming true.

Insult to injury...

Generation Nixed: Why Canada’s youth are losing hope for the future

m.theglobeandmail.com... =mobile

Justin MacGillivray is squarely confronting all those headwinds. Two summers in a row of weak job markets have unravelled his plans. The 22-year-old is finishing his degree in finance at Acadia University in Wolfville, N.S. He sent out about 150 job applications this past summer, but never landed full-time work. Instead, he did a few short-term stints at a restaurant. He is so discouraged that he has tossed out old expectations, and is now considering farming. “I have very little hope in finding pretty much anything right now,” he says. At 22, there is still lots of time left for him to find more secure work in his field. But across his generation, the outlook is not rosy. Charlotte Yates believes it is “a lie” to argue young people will eventually face a dramatic upward shift in fortunes as the economy improves and baby boomers retire. The dean of social sciences at McMaster University in Hamilton says changes in Canada’s labour market are permanent – most notably a penchant for part-time and contract hiring – and are not a temporary blip. “The arguments that say there’s a natural progression and they will eventually progress, I think misstate what’s going on in the labour market and misstate the long-term consequences,” she says. “That’s why I think it’s necessary to start re-framing the debate around how important good jobs are. They’re critical for us to maintain the standard of society we have – our standard of living and of course our middle class.” If there isn’t a broad debate about the consequences, she fears Canada will look far different in 40 years, with a lower level of home ownership, lower savings rates and higher rates of debt, as workers increasingly go throughout their careers without secure jobs and workplace benefits.

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This viewpoint has gotten its fingernails under the edge of a manhole cover in my mind. I'm going to have to reconsider a few things. Thankyou.

I thought the Australian system made some sense when I looked at it many years ago while considering my options. It may have changed but as I understood it by reading all the material, I had to either be able to prove I could independently support myself through pre-existing funds they'd demand proof of before granting immigration OR I had to be qualified within specific fields they determined were in demand without locals being able to fill all the positions currently needed.

Apparently, a temporary stay to work wouldn't be a problem and it shouldn't be, in my opinion. They had no sense of humor in their regulations when it came to making a home there though. It was a rather tight set of standards to meet.

By contrast? The United States is still bringing in a steady flow of foreign high skill workers on visa while college grads up to doctorate level get their degrees to find they're STILL stuck asking people if they'd like fries with their order. Something is definitely wrong there and it's interesting to hear Canada is much the same.

Originally posted by snowspirit
They should be making the new immigrants go to where they are needed.

Saskatchewan has a people shortage because everyone seems to think its too cold.

I've seen problems there, such as not enough housing because there isn't enough housing to put people in, to build more houses.
They should never be immigrating into areas that already have job shortages.
That just proves the stupidity of our government.

I agree with you. But from what I hear out your way and beyond, there is also mutiny on the bounty for anyone from other provinces to come in and work.

You need to protest and say close the borders. Really this is the only way people will listen. But whilst people are being politically correct, nothing will go the way you want. It will get worse.

Look I myself am from a family of immigrants, we moved here to be away from a very dangerous country. Anyways, if we were at the bottom of the pile say job wise, educationally wise, etc I dont see this as a bad thing especially not initially. People need to be tested before just joining. I think.

When in Rome you are in Rome! This way you would find that you wouldnt get say a black coming into a white country and staying with their culture. Youd find instead a black coming in and learning maybe white ways, and maybe even surpassing the white ways, in the sense that they become so well integrated that they do the culture in that country justice.

But having said that the govenments are actually very SELECTIVE as to who gate crashes a country. For example, in the UK you find Romanians trying to come very often here, and certain people of similar ethnicity and they always chuck them back out.

But if its muslims or africans and indians they welcome them.

So its orchestrated.

Either way the natives of the country should be listened to, they are what makes the country the country it is.

Originally posted by FreedomEntered
You need to protest and say close the borders. Really this is the only way people will listen. But whilst people are being politically correct, nothing will go the way you want. It will get worse.

Look I myself am from a family of immigrants, we moved here to be away from a very dangerous country. Anyways, if we were at the bottom of the pile say job wise, educationally wise, etc I dont see this as a bad thing especially not initially. People need to be tested before just joining. I think.

The bottom is regarded as bad, I dont know why. But having said that the govenments are actually very SELECTIVE as to who gate crashes a country. For example, in the UK you find Romanians trying to come very often here, and certain people of similar ethnicity and they always chuck them back out.

But if its muslims or africans and indians they welcome them.

So its orchestrated.

Either way the natives of the country should be listened to, they are what makes the country the country it is.

Considering the Prime Minister is now buddy- buddy with China...the floodgates have opened and all us locals are gonna drown.

Stop blaming the immigrants, and learn what the root cause of it is. You are the offspring of immigrants. At least these immigrants are only taking your jobs, not forcing you to assimilate to their culture, or taking your land, and your life.

* Immigrants contribute far more in taxes than they use in government services. They pay sales, property, income and Social Security taxes even though most of them are ineligible for the social service programs these taxes are used for — such as food stamps or Medicaid — unless they have been here for five years as lawful permanent residents. According to the National Academy of Sciences, immigrants on average pay $80,000 more in taxes than they receive in government benefits over their lifetimes....

Immigration Myths: Facts underline the need for comprehensive reform

Ive given an example of what you can do. Stop being proud and get out on the streets and say you want newcomers to appreciate the culture of the country. Its important this happens. Its the joy of joining a new country surely. To learn new ways. To add to the country.

As Im a second generation of immigrants , and my grandparents werent isolated I might say. You know some people join a country and just stay in their families/ mix very little.

I have learned to appreciate the UK with my heart. I feel very fearful that our culture will at any point be destroyed. Because the culture in the UK is my passion.

Being the children or grandchildren of immigrants is different.

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At least these immigrants are only taking your jobs, not forcing you to assimilate to their culture, or taking your land, and your life.

Tell that to certain areas Cali.. And I live in deep south Texas, so I know how they are.. a lot of them act like we owe them for whatever reason.. .worthless.