The Police State is here

Two vocal opponents of Naperville’s initiative to install wireless electric meters on homes were arrested after interfering with the installation process, according to city officials.

Police are accompanying crews this week as they install smart meters at homes that previously sent away installers.

“The previous installation attempts were met with some resistance and we wanted to ensure our employees’ safety,” City Manager Doug Krieger said.

Naperville has installed smart meters on 57,000 homes and is about 99 percent through with the process. Officials have said the project will make the electric system more reliable and efficient and reduce costs.

However, the Naperville Smart Meter Awareness group has expressed concerns over whether the wireless meters will affect health, security and privacy. The group has a federal lawsuit pending against the city.


patdollard.com...

Pardon me, but um... Where is the police state?

Only if everyone is complicit and gives their yes to it. Its not here yet. If people refuse to obey and take things to court over and over again, and say hell no, its not here! Its only their attempt to make it stick thats happening.

no kidding a blind moron could see it is here

Originally posted by Unity_99
Only if everyone is complicit and gives their yes to it. Its not here yet. If people refuse to obey and take things to court over and over again, and say hell no, its not here! Its only their attempt to make it stick thats happening.

We have to say hell no united or they will continue to pick defiant people off one by one.

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It's just happening more and more and more and more and more. It's getting insane what they are going after in a supposedly free country. What is wrong with the masses that don't see what is happening, especially on a conspiracy website? It is here, and it's getting worse by the day. People getting beat for peaceful protest, arrested for stupid things, etc.

I miss pre-911 America, it wasn't as bad as it is now.

Originally posted by slapjacks
Pardon me, but um... Where is the police state?

If you don't see the militirization of the police and what they have been doing in this country (USA, and the world lately), I don't know what to tell you.

Originally posted by HappyLIBERTARIAN
Two vocal opponents of Naperville’s initiative to install wireless electric meters on homes were arrested after interfering with the installation process, according to city officials.

Police are accompanying crews this week as they install smart meters at homes that previously sent away installers.

“The previous installation attempts were met with some resistance and we wanted to ensure our employees’ safety,” City Manager Doug Krieger said.

Naperville has installed smart meters on 57,000 homes and is about 99 percent through with the process. Officials have said the project will make the electric system more reliable and efficient and reduce costs.

However, the Naperville Smart Meter Awareness group has expressed concerns over whether the wireless meters will affect health, security and privacy. The group has a federal lawsuit pending against the city.


patdollard.com...

this is why you think the police state is here? not bushs patriot act, or the passing of the NDAA?. it's because wireless electrical meters are going in? do people know that we are now bathed in wireless signals coming from cell phone towers? and the entire nation is bathed in microwaves coming down to the dishes of satillite TV. this is constant 24 hours a day....so, a small signal sent from the electrical meter is like getting hurt from second-hand cigarette smoke, while you are standing inside a burning building.

It's weird.
I bought a house that has a smart meter, thinking it would be bad, and cost me a fortune in electrical, and I haven't noticed any difference yet, except that I don't have a meter reader come around, and I don't have to submit my own reading either.
The meter just sends the read itself.

Is there different types of smart meters?
Some that are smart enough to not irk their owners?

Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by HappyLIBERTARIAN
Two vocal opponents of Naperville’s initiative to install wireless electric meters on homes were arrested after interfering with the installation process, according to city officials.

Police are accompanying crews this week as they install smart meters at homes that previously sent away installers.

“The previous installation attempts were met with some resistance and we wanted to ensure our employees’ safety,” City Manager Doug Krieger said.

Naperville has installed smart meters on 57,000 homes and is about 99 percent through with the process. Officials have said the project will make the electric system more reliable and efficient and reduce costs.

However, the Naperville Smart Meter Awareness group has expressed concerns over whether the wireless meters will affect health, security and privacy. The group has a federal lawsuit pending against the city.


patdollard.com...

this is why you think the police state is here? not bushs patriot act, or the passing of the NDAA?. it's because wireless electrical meters are going in? do people know that we are now bathed in wireless signals coming from cell phone towers? and the entire nation is bathed in microwaves coming down to the dishes of satillite TV dishes. this is constant 24 hours a day....so, a small signal sent from the electrical meter is like getting hurt from second-hand cigarette smoke, while you are standing inside a burning building.

It's all of the above. Jeesh. It's just progressing it a fast pace. I have been vocal about all of the things you are discussing. There are no private property rights any more, police are out of hand, and the government and media are one in the same. It's getting bad, and only going to get worse.

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No offense, but try revolting or making your own revolution ... what else can you do? They are the scientists and we are the lab rats.

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A quote from the article provided:

"The city, which has repeatedly declared the wireless meters to be safe, offers a non-wireless alternative meter to residents with concerns. There is a $68.35 initial fee for a non-wireless meter plus a $24.75 monthly fee for manually reading it. Stahl said residents who want a non-wireless meter should not have to pay for it, and said she represents other homeowners who were not able to continue to refuse the wireless meter installation."

So the city will install the wireless meters for free...but they also offer a (non-wireless) option but you have to pay an installation fee plus a monthly meter charge. The fees attached to the (non-wireless) meters is one of their strategies to push people into getting the wireless meters; whether they want to or not. Having police showing up at the installation process is the other.

I just have to wonder...why the (strong arm) tactics to get everyone to comply? What are the hidden agendas?

If you can make a thread about "Police State", there is not such a thing yet.

The cargo van outside of your home is a roto-rooter, the guy wiring the pole works for the cable company and there is not a microphone in the toilet.

Ha ha all they are doing is making it easy to hack in and reduce your bill, almost impossible on an old fashioned meter.

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If you can make a thread about "Police State", there is not such a thing yet.

It’s here…







…But we still have guns, so they’ve gone about as far as they can until they disarm us.

The idea of a police state is laughable and only somebody who has never been anywhere in the world would make such an absurd claim. In a police state you would be taken tonight for posting such a thing. Police would not be protecting people installing meters from a few nut bags, they would shoot the people and burn down neighborhood for allowing them to have gone unreported. This is about as far from a police state as you can get.

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Now why did you do that , go giving them TPTB ideas on how and where to take more freedoms away?

The up side is not yet, but the down side is with in ten years. now as far as the meter thing well they can by remote cut your power off if it needs be , one house or a block , this is rolling brown outs.

Used during heat waves or power spikes , have one here at my house! asked all kinds of stuff: whom decides when to cut power? will there be a notice ? how long will there be no power? they can even decide how much power i can use.
If I exceed that then the meter is shut off then after an hour or so it is back on.
It will tell them if i disconnect the main if i am servicing my circuits.

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I think claiming police state is getting out of hand. You don't have to install one of these meters. The police are only going as escorts to protect the meter maids.

When every little thing is a sign of a police state, the term loses it's potency and does a great disservice to those actually living under such oppression.

I get the slippery slope argument and there are many things I would like to see changed, but let's not use something that's such a non event as proof positive we are in a police state. It's ridiculous. I was in another thread and a poster actually said the Gestapo weren't as evil as American police officers. Are you kidding me?