Masonry is not Real Enlightenment

reply to post by Theprimordialocker


Okay, I call the only Supreme being I know God. Who is the other one?
And I want to know where he lives too.

I'm not serving two masters.

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Okay, I call the only Supreme being I know God. Who is the other one? And I want to know where he lives too.

Mock God pay the ultimate penalty "where will you be spending eternity"?

reply to post by Theprimordialocker

We're not mocking God, we're mocking you.

Not insulted in the least keep going .. your doing well

Originally posted by Theprimordialocker
Not insulted in the least keep going .. your doing well

You'll receive no insults here. With regard to serving two masters, see my post here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This will strike a contentious point for some, but the fact is that Hiram is pointing us to Christ and in fact, is truly a type of Christ.

I would still welcome a reply to the PM I sent you several days ago.

reply to post by Theprimordialocker


So either you don't know, or you are scared to answer.
Which it is?

Originally posted by Fitzgibbon

Originally posted by Wonders

Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by Theprimordialocker

 

Freemasonry is based firstly on Truth, but also charity, love, justice, moderation, courage, prudence, equality, moral rectitude, and liberty.

That is truly laughable.

I disagree, very much.

Because.....why exactly? Are there some facts you could point to that aren't resting on half-truths or full-out lies? Is there something in particular that the rest of Masons on ATS (or anywhere else for that matter) are not privy to? Will you come back and pick up the gauntlet? Or is it to lie there

Fitz

I'm back.
Demonic Freemasonry
That's just one of many. Most of you need to get those blindfolds off, don't be afraid to break your gruesome initiation vows.

reply to post by Wonders


The Three Great Lights:
1) The Father (Master)...
2) The Son (Apprentice)...
3) The Holy Spirit (Flag)...

The Rite:
1) Water- Stand Up For The People/Person...
2) Sulfur- Endure For The People/Person...
3) Salt- Made By The People/Person...

Note: Chamber Of Reflection (Stand Alone)...
Rite Of Passage...


JAH is pronounced "You"...
BAL is pronounced "Bow"...
ON is pronounced "In"...

You Bow In is the ritual of "Homage" which is immediately followed up with "Fealty" to lord and land.
That leads to knighthood...

The bow/kneel is due to the rite of passage.
It represents trampling the serpent under foot crushing its head whilst bruising the heel.
Thus you bow and kneel because it hurt too much to remain standing.

That is freemasonic essence... how could it be demonic?

reply to post by Wonders

Your title is even an incorrect assertion.

The purpose of Freemasonry is to lure good people down an evil road. Little by little Freemasonry tries to corrupt good Christian men. The group's nature is highly deceptive. Lower-level Freemasons are kept in the dark deliberately, lest they resign immediately.

Each of these points is completely incorrect and provides no evidence to support such things.

Please define for me what "Lower-level Freemasons" are?

...but these men are not told the true Satanic nature of the innermost esoteric group.

Then how do you know about it? As a non-member you are logically lower on the information pole than those fabled "lower level Freemason". Unless of course you think yourself smarter or more clever than actual members then at that point we're not dealing rationally, but against blind arrogance and ignorance.

Please name these innermost esoteric groups and some of their members.

Whereas talented and famous men feel honored to belong to such a prestigious group, it's all designed to deceive them into following Satan.

Incorrect and unsubstantiated.

It's really sad and tragic.

What's sad and tragic is that you are allowed to lie without being held accountable.

The lowest three degrees of Freemasonry are highly deceived, deliberately kept in the dark.

Not true.

Back during the time of the founding of America, Adam Weishaupt felt that Freemasonry was the easiest way to get a good Christian man onto a path to destruction.

According to who? What evidence do you have of this?

A large percentage of our founding fathers were Freemasons, but they weren't evil men. They were part of an evil system that they didn't fully comprehend.

So you feel you know more about Freemasonry or that you are smarter than the Founders? LOL

www.travelingtemplar.com...

Freemasonry was a corrupt skateboard readymade for his purposes.

How so?

The All Seeing Eye is sometimes considered the eye of god, that is, Lucifer.

It is a symbol of Divine Providence. It has been used by many different cultures and religions to include Christianity.

Masons make blood oaths.

No we don't. Blood oaths require one to spill blood at the time of the oath, this doesn't happen.

I don't have time for a 2+ hour video. I'm not wasting time I don't have to waste right now.

Let us hear Masonic author Manly P. Hall describe this two-dimensional organization of Freemasonry.

Of course you're taking what he wrote out of context as people like you normally do. You have this little amount of information, right or wrong, and you make sensational accusations based usually on ignorance, fabrications, manipulations, and just good ol' plain lies; apparently lying isn't a sin if it suits your agenda.

Pike also stated in Morals & Dogma that Freemasonry is NOT a religion. Technically if you have a strong grasp at what he is saying he does not say Freemasonry is a religion, but uses "like" which means he is doing a comparison between Freemasonry and religions (ie they have some similar characteristics, have similiar characteristics doesn't mean they are the same thing).

Pike does make mention of anti-Masons and other followers of ignorance when he stated from your selected quote: "uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be mislead"

If a man were known to revere Jesus Christ in the beginning of his membership within Masonry, he would be immediately shunted into the visible society, and would never, ever learn the truth.

Incorrect. There are many invitational, honorary groups that are extremely Christian and there is nothing in Freemasonry that is against the Christian faith. Your version of Christianity is one without love, hope, tolerance, and compassion which you replaced the Savior with your new Trinity of Fear, Superstition, and Hatred.

More twisting of Pike's words using the anti-Masons good ol' "cut-and-paste" job without any real grasp as to what he intended.

The fact is, Pike IS Freemasonry today.

First off, may Bro. Kleinknecht Rest in Peace. Second, there is much more to Freemasonry than Pike (celebrated as he is) and the Scottish Rite. You anti-Masons have tunnel vision and a hard-on for the Scottish Rite without any focus on the older more restrictive bodies in Freemasonry.

To be continued...

reply to post by Wonders

Co-Masonry has no involvement with recognize, regular Freemasonry

Albert Pike Taught Freemasons to Deceive Lower Level Freemasons

The degree used here is another misquote and the intent of Pike comes from the 30th degree and warns against tyrants and fascists as well as pointing again that those who deserve to be misled will be misled.

reply to post by Wonders


Well, it was only a matter of time. You have caught us.
And to think all you had to do is post some garbage from one of those over zealous Christian hate sites.
You sure are the cleaver one.

Originally posted by Wonders
Demonic Freemasonry

Wait. You believe in demons?

Do you still think there is a Tooth Fairy as well?

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Wonders
Demonic Freemasonry

Wait. You believe in demons?

Do you still think there is a Tooth Fairy as well?

It is not a mark of maturity to compare the two.

reply to post by Wonders

Regardless of the content, the site is about as factual as the Stormfront website.

reply to post by KSigMason


yes but you get a good laugh at the idiots this beats the t.v any day

reply to post by geobro

Very true. Sometimes it's like watching the Jerry Springer Show.

Originally posted by Wonders
It is not a mark of maturity to compare the two.

Perhaps, but it is certainly a mental deficiency to ascribe legitimacy to either when one has reached adulthood.

Originally posted by Wonders

Demonic Freemasonry
That's just one of many. Most of you need to get those blindfolds off, don't be afraid to break your gruesome initiation vows.

I had a look at your link. What gets me is that on the entire internet, there is not a single Christian site (not even one) which can mention freemasonry without blatantly lying about it in order to further their "Christian" agenda.

How is it that the Christian sites are the biggest liars of all?

I am a Freemason and I used to be a Christian. I know the truth about Freemasonry and I know the Christian sites are lying. And don't tell me I'm still a low-level Mason who is kept in the dark - I am our district's regional mentor - I give lectures to 33° Masons on Masonic matters and symbolism.

The fact of the matter is that Christian sites blatantly lie about Freemasonry, and it puts Christianity to shame. It saddens me that "Christians" would stoop to such lows to keep their audience.

Originally posted by Saurus
The fact of the matter is that Christian sites blatantly lie about Freemasonry, and it puts Christianity to shame. It saddens me that "Christians" would stoop to such lows to keep their audience.

Which is exactly why I created the thread Religious Zealotry and its Inherent Hypocrisy Towards Masonry.

The blatant untruths spouted by these purveyors of 'truth' is appalling.

reply to post by Saurus


Don't let it bother you too much. The ones that fall for that garbage are the tiny minds, the ones that need to be told how to do most things in their lives. Incapable of free thought. They certainly aren't the type of men to have any honor. So, they are they type we should pitty and pray for.

Plus, most of the garbage they bring is idiotic enough that everyone with a hint of a brain get's a good laugh about it.
Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Check. Out of context Pike quotes? Check. Everything is the devil? Check.
Bobby Boushea's mama.

Not all Christians are that flipping stupid.