Feminism & The Downfall Of The Traditional Family

Originally posted by mrjoones
interesting thread.. been a topic of discussion ive been involved in recently ...

well there is a growing division of women who see their power between their legs and men have allowed this to happen ... what are men thining running around with a "yes sir no sir three bags full sir" attitude after them ... bossy bullying women is the result .. i have seen more and more of these sprouting up over the years and they p1$$ me off ... especially lazy fat ones.

a problem is a degree of them seem to have gone to the other extreme and i cant answer why ... power crazy... but another problem is men have let these ones do just that ... the solution is simple .. don't let them and aim for a balance .. a division of men seem emotionally impaired these days ... get a grip guys ... if she is becoming a pain move on (don't sit in a dark room and blub feeling sorry for urself) and if enough people did this perhaps there would be a change in direction until a happy medium is found.

so my summary, men are becoming more emotional and feminine, women are becoming more male.. doesnt affect me but i see enough of it.

men and women are not the same, only equal in as much as they complement eachother.

I agree.
That's what this thread is about. But also about trying to question WHY it is that this is has happened.
Is it because of how they were raised?
I notice some of my friends are in this boat. And each one of them have one thing in common, they didn't grow up with a father, but they did have mother's but were emotionally detached.
Granted, they are all quick to fight but when it comes to women, they tend to bend over as if there are no other women in this world except the ones they are with.
--And the women walk all over them for it.

I am baffled as to why they take the #. But hey, whatever makes them happy i suppose. I just can tell they aren't happy.

reply to post by TiredofControlFreaks_javascript:icon('')




I think you and I have been living in a parallel universe but I have a feeling that I

have been around a bit longer than you!


'Feminism' as such never really made an impression on me as I was just too busy fighting

for equality The only thing I was actually aware of concerning 'feminism' is what I

occasionally saw on the news about the women on Greenham common.


I was first enraged when I went to hospital to be fitted with the then 'latest' form of

contraception at the age of 35 years only to be sent home to get my husbands

signature of approval - my body his approval Needless to say I

took the form home and 'forged' his signature it's not to say he wouldn't have signed

but like I said MY BODY HIS APPROVAL nah...not going to happen!


When I got divorced, although I was prepared to take out a loan to buy him out of the

family home (mainly for the sake of my daughters) and take on the mortgage I

found it extremely difficult, and was only able too when my Father acted as guarantor

Later, when I was in a position to replace the furniture my ex. had taken, and I was

employed and earning my own money I had great difficulty in obtaining credit


I thought I was doing well financially and when the company I was working for was

taken over and the 'new company' doubled my salary to that of my male colleagues

you can imagine how rich I felt! like winning the lottery


When the going was tough, as it often was and still is sometimes there are three things

I have come across which I remind myself to get me through

# I CAN and I WILL...

# What doesn't kill you makes you stronger...

# Problems are only solutions in disguise...


I had a good laugh at your last point because two men I know 'imported' that type of female

from the east, 'young and compliant' - and when they found their feet they were off like a

shot!! And I have heard (via the grape vine) that my ex. now follows a regime that

suits and has to fit in with his new wife's lifestyle. KHARMA?

Originally posted by eletheia
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I had a good laugh at your last point because two men I know 'imported' that type of female

from the east, 'young and compliant' - and when they found their feet they were off like a

shot!!

And I have heard (via the grape vine) that my ex. now follows a regime that

suits and has to fit in with his new wife's lifestyle.

KHARMA?

I have a few asian friends that have went back to Cambodia for wives. Thier wives didn't run away once they got here?? must be the males fault. I think most women that are "in love" will do anything to stay with thier partner. Apparently these females just wanted a free ticket from thier old life to a new one.

Sounds like your ex is facing some Karma. Scared he will die alone I'm sure. So he puts up with a controlling female and succumbs to his fears.
No respect for males that bow down.

I'd rather die on my feet, than live a lifetime on my knees.
-Emiliano Zapata.

--Fits well with both males and females.

reply to post by resoe26





You said "I am baffled as to why they take # But hey, whatever makes them happy

I suppose. I just can tell they aren't happy"



Can I ask you where you got your qualifications in 'mind reading' i'm really interested as

I think it could be very useful to me!


It is my experience no one stays any length of time where they are not happy or at the

very least content, and then there are people who are happy being miserable ( you know

getting the sympathy vote ) my gran was one of those people.

Originally posted by eletheia
reply to post by resoe26

 

You said

"I am baffled as to why they take # But hey, whatever makes them happy

I suppose. I just can tell they aren't happy"

Can I ask you where you got your qualifications in 'mind reading' i'm really interested as

I think it could be very useful to me!

It is my experience no one stays any length of time where they are not happy or at the

very least content, and then there are people who are happy being miserable ( you know

getting the sympathy vote ) my gran was one of those people.

I can mind read these folks because I have known the majority of them for nearly my entire life. I only have a few friends that I view as family, the rest are aquaintances. The ones I do know, hell, I can tell what they are thinking.
Plus, us scorpios are known for mind reading.

-And yeah I know what you mean. Lots of folks looking for sympathy votes.

reply to post by resoe26





# "Your Asian friends going back to Cambodia for wives"......


Hmmm....could be a clue there somewhere same ethnicity, same culture ,same traditions,

same expectations?


# So the most women that are "in love" will do anything to stay with their partner

Does that exceptional trait apply to MEN too or is it just a woman thing?

Originally posted by eletheia
reply to post by resoe26

 

# "Your Asian friends going back to Cambodia for wives"......


Hmmm....could be a clue there somewhere same ethnicity, same culture ,same traditions,

same expectations?


# So the most women that are "in love" will do anything to stay with their partner

Does that exceptional trait apply to MEN too or is it just a woman thing?

Yes, there is a clue there, did you find it?

Of course men do the same.
But is marriage/relationships not about compromise?

reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli


I absolutely made a poor choice in husband at the age of 20 years old. Are you saying I committed a crime and therefore must spend the rest of my life in a prison, being beaten everyday?

Pedophiles are given protection. I wasn't! Thank God, Feminism gave me choices and the opportunity to escape.

Tired of Control Freaks

Originally posted by TiredofControlFreaks
reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli

 

I absolutely made a poor choice in husband at the age of 20 years old. Are you saying I committed a crime and therefore must spend the rest of my life in a prison, being beaten everyday?

Pedophiles are given protection. I wasn't! Thank God, Feminism gave me choices and the opportunity to escape.

Tired of Control Freaks

I hope you called the cops.
Did you start some of the fights though?

Edit:
ps not trying to start some #.

Just saying, if feminism did anything good, then thats about it. Allowed women to move on from a terrible marriage.

reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli


You are being ridiculous - of course I would not want to see men treated the way woman have been treated for centuries..

I am no advocate of the idea that my rights can only be protected by taking away the rights of others.

Tired of Control Freaks

Originally posted by TiredofControlFreaks
reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli

 

You are being ridiculous - of course I would not want to see men treated the way woman have been treated for centuries..

I am no advocate of the idea that my rights can only be protected by taking away the rights of others.

Tired of Control Freaks

Hey what is that coming this way from out in left field?

Where did you get this idea from?


EDIT
As to the link I provided I was specifically talking of property rights IDK why that other poster started going on and on about equal pay and taking a loan out so they could take both the house and kids from the father.

I always laugh when I read posts that advocate going back in time to some better (or optimal) state of being that existed in the past.

It's the classic conservative conundrum. For amusement, get a small group of conservatives together and get a debate going about which point in the past, things were the best. Then stand back and watch them rip each other apart.

What always confuses me, is if your ideas are so great why do you have to force them on the whole of society? A great idea should be self-evident and should take off on it's own --right?