The bottom line about gun control, AR15s, AK47s and the 2nd Amendment.

Please share this information on your Facebook page in the hope that other folks in the “I support the 2nd Amendment, but don’t want people to have AR15 rifles” crowd get a better real understanding of the issues at stake.
If we don’t get these folks involved and on our side, the 2nd Amendment will eventually be completely eroded. There is so much misinformation put out there by the gun-grabbers and then repeated by the media. Let's take a moment to clear up some of that misinformation.

1) Civilian AR-15 rifles are NOT the same automatic weapons the military has. The military has fully automatic weapons. Civilian AR-15s in production today do NOT function the same way. They shoot one shot per trigger pull, just like a semi auto hunting rifle. I know often the when the media makes commentary they show B-roll video in the background of a machine gun shooting and spraying, but that is not how civilian AR-15 rifles operate.

2) Civilian AR-15 rifles (or similar) has the same type of internals as your semi auto deer rifle. Civilian type "assault" rifles function the exact same way as deer hunting rifles. They just look different.

3) Even the term “assault” rifle is gun grabber sensationalism parroted by the media. “Assault” weapons are fully automatic (select fire), and they have been heavily regulated since the 1930s, and civilian manufacturer has been completely outlawed almost 30 years ago!

4) Fully automatic ”AK-47s” have already been banned from manufacture from civilians, also almost 30 years ago. Again the civilian look-a-like rifles have the same type of semi auto internals as your hunting rifle. Different cosmetics, same type of mechanics.

5) An AR15 (or similar) is NOT a “high powered rifle”. I guess it depends on what you want to categorize as “high power”, but these rifles shoot some of the smallest rifle cartridges in the market. Deer rifles are a LOT more powerful than any of these rifles. And soon the gun-grabbing crowd will recategorize your deer rifle as a “high powered sniper rifle”. That is how this political movement works.

6) A hunting shotgun is a LOT more lethal in these close quarter mass killings of unarmed innocent people than any semi auto rifle. Anyone with extensive firearms training and experience will confirm that.

The politicians know these new laws will NOT stop these types of mass killings. They even admit it! But they want to pass them anyway because it serves their greater mission of effectively neutering the second amendment. The leaders in this movement actually DON’T WANT these laws to work (even if they would) because when they are shown ineffective, they now have the political momentum to pass more ineffective laws, and grab more guns.

This is all part of a broader gun grab, done slowly, in increments, over time, until the Second Amendment is just a bunch of meaningless outdated words on an old piece of parchment.

When a sociopath chooses that shotgun or hunting rifle in the next horrific event, you are the legislature’s next target.

The philosophy of “We need to pass more laws to stop sociopathic criminals from breaking our laws” is effective because most Americans are not really paying attention to these details. (Please read that line twice) Please help to educate the public with this information.

Also it should be noted, the 2nd Amendment has NOTHING to do with hunting, fishing, competitive shooting, “sporting purposes”, racquet ball, swimming, camping, etc. The 2nd Amendment (and the entire Bill of Rights) is to preserve a balance of power between the citizens and their government.

reply to post by angrysniper




1. Wrong. M-16's in the miltary are semi-auto with the option of using a 3-round burst. That's not full auto, even the military understands it's a waste of ammo and not very accurate.

2. True

3. Assault Weapons are not "fully automatic". "Machine Guns" are full auto. By defination, a "Assault Weapon" IS semi-auto.

4. Not True, my buddy just got one.

5. Not true, it is "high power". It's just not a large caliber.

6. Very Very true. How about 18 pellets of .32 caliber lead balls coming at you at more than 1200fps.

what you are talking about when it comes to an ar15 it is semi auto a m16 has a selector switch.
so what makes an ar15 an assualt weapon itis only semi auto? and why is a semi auto weapon an assault weapon?
and why do you say a semi auto weapon is an assault weapon?
your buddy is in violation of federal law to have a fully auto weapon.
and why is a .223 a high caliber?

Originally posted by catt3
what you are talking about when it comes to an ar15 it is semi auto a m16 has a selector switch.
so what makes an ar15 an assualt weapon itis only semi auto? and why is a semi auto weapon an assault weapon?
and why do you say a semi auto weapon is an assault weapon?
your buddy is in violation of federal law to have a fully auto weapon.
and why is a .223 a high caliber?

edit on 12/21/2012 by catt3 because: (no reason given)

One can own fully automatic weapons in many states. They are simply not manufactured for civilian use after 1986.

.223 is not a high caliber. It is essentially a high velocity .22 caliber projectile. However it is not high power when one considers muzzle energy and the energy the projectile delivers at distance, such as 200 meters.

This chart will give you a better understanding: www.chuckhawks.com...

National Firearms Act Definitions
Machinegun

26 U.S.C. § 5845(b)

For the purposes of the National Firearms Act the term Machinegun means:

Any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger
The frame or receiver of any such weapon
Any part designed and intended solely and exclusively or combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, or
Any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.

www.atf.gov...