Hey Hard-Core Christian Right Conservatives! Here's How Backwards You Really Are!!!

Originally posted by lambs to lions

Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
reply to post by lambs to lions

 

I've got no beef with Christians. Just leave me and mine alone, and we'll be good. I made decisions about how I wanted to raise my kids based on sound scientific reasoning, and they turned out great. You make yours based on whatever you like, and I'll leave you to it.

I have, and will continue to leave you and your's alone. The only people pushing anything here is those who are targeting the religious.

Nobody is "targeting" the religious. This is simply pointing out that in a STATISTICAL SENSE it would appear that the BEST way to actually reduce teen pregnancies and abortion is to foster a culture of sexual permissiveness as opposed to the "fire and brimstone" approach of the Christian Right...which incidentally is rather popular in Mississippi.

reply to post by ShotGunRum


Sorry there was no religion in this for you to read about. This has to do with parenting in the US vS parenting in Europe. Christianity is not mentioned at all and further more what makes the OP think that the Europeans that permit this are not also Christians. Since its not mentioned as far as religion for any of the people mentioned in the article I dont get the title and I dont get your response. Suppose the permissive parents are also Christians? Where does that take this thread and these ideas ?

reply to post by ShotGunRum


No that's incorrect..christians are suppose to love their fellow man...like most religions they are distorted as to the true essence of what it was meant to be...consider it a moral compass in the begining and fast foward today magnetic north is not where it use to be...there are many good tenants of all religions that we should follow but we don't. You shouldn't put down a religion due to bunch of morons just as it's unfair to label all races as acting a certain way..I don't know why there is such a hate for religion..we should be more upset with the people puporting to be deeply religious that do the most absurd things...not the religion..

Originally posted by MarkJS

I don't know if it applies now, as many, many, many things have changed (even to the point where in the late 90's the Supreme Court ruled that Satanism is an official religion)... but Hard-Core Christian Right Conservatives founded this country, and it became the most powerful, and prosperous country in the world.

We are all worshipping satanism and don't even know it.

You can spin it any way you want to... but even on our money, it still says "In God We Trust".....

So instead of attacking Hard-Core Christian Right Conservatives, if you live in the USA, then you should be showing some gratitude instead. If you don't live in the US, then your thread, and this post doesn't apply.

edit on 9/12/2012 by MarkJS because: (no reason given)

Puritanism. Yet we are supposely a secular nation, where government and church are seperate.

The way things are going now I see fanatic christians supporting fanatic jews and abhoring muslims, because supposedly muslims did 9-11. There is so much proof to the contrary it is either truely an act of ignorance or shilling to believe otherwise.

Muslims are no different to christians, jews, hindus, confuscists, budhists, etc. All man-evolved religions from various degrees of truth. They got altered by control freaks in government and the church during the period of thousands of years. MSR are not pure at all. Take it any way you want!

Sorry if this is a bit off topic from the OP post but the fact is that Christians give more to charity than non- Christians. If you want to abolish Christianity you will be cutting your nose off to spite your face. Liberals like Al Gore give maybe $300.00 a year to charity. Talk is cheap. Christians walk the walk and are being driven to not care by the Liberal doubletalk.

Um I'm not a conservative, or a parent, and I still think that's rather ridiculous.

reply to post by MarkJS


Actually America's founders had various religious views - some of them weren't even Christian.

As much as I detest the far Christian right fundamentalists - I really think this is more of a cultural issue than a religious one. American culture has evolved to have quite a few hang-ups about sex, whereas other cultures haven't evolved that way. Look at someplace like France. They certainly have religion, and have had a religious past, but they have much less sexual hang-ups than America.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by MarkJS

I don't know if it applies now, as many, many, many things have changed (even to the point where in the late 90's the Supreme Court ruled that Satanism is an official religion)... but Hard-Core Christian Right Conservatives founded this country, and it became the most powerful, and prosperous country in the world.

We are all worshipping satanism and don't even know it.

You can spin it any way you want to... but even on our money, it still says "In God We Trust".....

So instead of attacking Hard-Core Christian Right Conservatives, if you live in the USA, then you should be showing some gratitude instead. If you don't live in the US, then your thread, and this post doesn't apply.

edit on 9/12/2012 by MarkJS because: (no reason given)

Puritanism. Yet we are supposely a secular nation, where government and church are seperate.

The way things are going now I see fanatic christians supporting fanatic jews and abhoring muslims, because supposedly muslims did 9-11. There is so much proof to the contrary it is either truely an act of ignorance or shilling to believe otherwise.

Muslims are no different to christians, jews, hindus, confuscists, budhists, etc. All man-evolved religions from various degrees of truth. They got altered by control freaks in government and the church during the period of thousands of years. MSR are not pure at all. Take it any way you want!

Worshiping Satanism.... like that's a good thing? What's up with that?

Like I said, many things have changed since the founding of this great nation. But that's ok, because Jesus is coming back to make things straight. So guess what? The USA is not my savior... Jesus Is.

Muslims are no different to christians, jews, hindus, confuscists, budhists

Ah... there is a Huge difference... Only in Christianity, does God Himself send His Only Son- to die for the sins of mankind.... so as to redeem man from their own sins/problems. All other religions rely on laws and a "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" mentality. "Just try.. and you can do it." Nonsense.

Originally posted by jimmiec
Sorry if this is a bit off topic from the OP post but the fact is that Christians give more to charity than non- Christians. If you want to abolish Christianity you will be cutting your nose off to spite your face. Liberals like Al Gore give maybe $300.00 a year to charity. Talk is cheap. Christians walk the walk and are being driven to not care by the Liberal doubletalk.

The government has no business abolishing religion neither is it a desired outcome at all. There are some/many parts of religion that are meaningful and good. It simply is not pure though, aka disconnected from the source and mixed with satanism.

Take the good with the bad, or use it as a stepping stone to dig further? Devotion to mainstream religion is the problem imo because it prevents gnosis. One must keep an open mind and msr discourages that.

reply to post by milominderbinder


I'm no fundamentalist nor am I a virgin. But that doesn't mean I'd allow my child to whore herself out. I believe in morals, I believe in loving the person you sleep with. And no, I don't mean puppy love. Children today are bombarded with sex, sex on TV, in music, in magazines... Is it any wonder that small girls are getting pregnant?

You claim that Christians are a problem. Well, I think people like you are the problem. You don't see a problem with how it is today. You think it's totally fine for children to have as many sexual partners as they wish. I live in Norway, not too far away from Denmark. And I honestly doubt that "most parents allow their children to spend the night at a boy/girls house". Because most Norwegian parents I know, wouldn't allow this. No matter how liberal they are. They still believe in morals.

The media is a problem. When you end up selling the body to sell a product, you get children who think it's acceptable to use their body because that's "cool". I've seen girls as low as 13 in Norway dress up in sexy stockings, corsets, tongue and belly piercings at parties acting like they're hookers. Is this normal to you?

It's not normal to us, and the minute we start accepting this because we live in a "modern" society, we might as well accept that pedophiles have sex with children. I mean, morals... They're overrated right?

Originally posted by lambs to lions
reply to post by milominderbinder

 

I'm guessing you aren't a parent? If you are, I'm speechless.

I'm a parent and this is exactly the way my husband and I raised our son. We talked to him frankly about sex and the difference between sex and love. We also told him about safe sex and birth control. We introduced him to the family planning clinic.

He had many liasons as young man and never did any of his girlfriends become pregnant. He parted as friends with all but one. He grew into a responsible adult now in a monogamous 15yr long relationship. Gee, wonder where we went wrong?

reply to post by micmerci


Vermont is arguably more liberal than those states and still has a low teenage birthrate.

What works for the Netherlands may not work for the U.S and so forth.

We still should stop treating sex like a taboo subject. Even the most religious of people have sex, even if they've taken a vow of celibacy. Don't get me started on Catholic priests and closeted hardcore Christians.

Originally posted by jimmiec
reply to post by kaylaluv

 

No, My wife took them in for regular checkups. She simply talked to the doctor and asked. They were never taken to the doctor to check their hymen and you are wrong about there never being a need to check them down there. An infection can leave a woman barren.

Sorry she felt she had to ask if the hymen was intact. Obviously she didn't feel she could trust her daughters to tell her if they were being sexually active? And yes, I said if there was a problem, you need to go to the doctor. You don't need pelvic exam checkups if you're under the age of 21 and have never been sexually active.

www.youngwomenshealth.org...

reply to post by Auricom

I was given the impression that most Europeans had the "Laissez-faire" mentality... with Denmark and Amsterdam getting a lot of press these days.

It's good to hear that things are not as out of control as they seem... at least from what the MSM tells you... (which is your point.. Thanks)

reply to post by jaguarsky


Nothing went wrong. You did it exactly right.

reply to post by jimmiec


And if some people had their way, more Americans would be dependent on that charity. How long before these "generous" folks decide that their investment is no longer worth it?

I don't care how much money you donate.

If you actively work to suppress the freedom of another to have sex with the same gender or abort an unwanted fetus, then you are the problem, not the people you are suppressing!

Originally posted by milominderbinder
it would appear that the BEST way to actually reduce teen pregnancies and abortion is to foster a culture of sexual permissiveness as opposed to the "fire and brimstone" approach of the Christian Right

Do you know how backwards that sounds? That the best way not to get pregnant is to go out and screw around as much as you want and not to bother with any kind of self control?

Originally posted by MarkJS

Worshiping Satanism.... like that's a good thing? What's up with that?

Never said it was a good thing!

Research elohim and nephelim, to make the story short.

Like I said, many things have changed since the founding of this great nation. But that's ok, because Jesus is coming back to make things straight. So guess what? The USA is not my savior... Jesus Is.

And jesus is what exactly? Maybe a demi-god or alien?

Muslims are no different to christians, jews, hindus, confuscists, budhists

Ah... there is a Huge difference... Only in Christianity, does God Himself send His Only Son- to die for the sins of mankind.... so as to redeem man from their own sins/problems.

Who is god in your opinion? Are you going to call me a heretic for asking this simple question?

All other religions rely on laws and a "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" mentality. "Just try.. and you can do it." Nonsense.

edit on 9/12/2012 by MarkJS because: (no reason given)

Prophets and saints are just as holy.

"Just try...and you can do it" sounds like scientology and I absolutely abhor it!!

reply to post by FlyersFan


You're reading it wrong.

You teach a child to make informed decisions that ensure their well-being and those lessons will carry on throughout their lives.

Religion is about control. I'm not shocked that you brought "self-control" into the equation.

Originally posted by kaylaluv
reply to post by MarkJS

 

Actually America's founders had various religious views - some of them weren't even Christian.

no... most of them were Christian. The Constitution reflects that, in that one of the first things it mentions is the existence of a Creator.

You've been duped by the public school system... lies. Do some real research and you will see different.
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