Disclosure of the moon landing hoax.

originally posted by: yhin999
So there is no moisture on the moon? Correct? Footprints with no moisture? That's interesting.

Either the studio had moistered air or the sand was moistered.

originally posted by: onebigmonkey

8. remote controlled

Proof?

They sent up three remote controlled rovers (Apollo 15,16,17) Why do you think the rovers had that many antennas ?

a reply to: Ove38

And who is filming it? Hint: You can see the shadow of his helmet in the opening second.

The antennae on the rover were needed to transmit voice and TV to Earth.

The driver is in a stiff suit and only actually needs to move his hand to control direction.

Your basic premise there is "it doesn't look like I think it should, and I just don't believe it"

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: yhin999
So there is no moisture on the moon? Correct? Footprints with no moisture? That's interesting.

Either the studio had moistered air or the sand was moistered.

Jagged particles uneroded by atmosphere or water tend to lock together easily.

And who is filming it? Hint: You can see the shadow of his helmet in the opening second.

Hmm, I just don't think that proves anything, it just proves that someone is filming, they could have very easily filmed it in the nevada desert

originally posted by: onebigmonkey
Well there's something we can agree on. Why is it such a stretch to let them get the rest of the way? Are you suggesting that they were in cislunar space but sent a probe on ahead which then met up with them again? Describe precisely what you think happened here. otherwise it just looks like you're dodging the bits you can't argue against.

They all remained in the command module, the lunar landing module, landed on the moon without them. They never figured out who to get a man safely up from the moon surface.

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: yhin999
So there is no moisture on the moon? Correct? Footprints with no moisture? That's interesting.

Either the studio had moistered air or the sand was moistered.

#

More likely YOU don't understand the subject!!!

originally posted by: onebigmonkey
a reply to: Ove38

And who is filming it? Hint: You can see the shadow of his helmet in the opening second.

The antennae on the rover were needed to transmit voice and TV to Earth.

The driver is in a stiff suit and only actually needs to move his hand to control direction.

Your basic premise there is "it doesn't look like I think it should, and I just don't believe it"

The left arm is completely stiff, suspended in the air, throughout the whole ride, even in the bumpy parts of the ride. Where do you see the right arm or hand move ? Also the antenna cables are completely stiff ! And what about the ride at the end of the video 0:60 where the tire tracks are in front of the rover ? is he driving in the exact same tracks twice ? or are we watching a film that runs backwards ? if so why, why all this inconsistencies ?

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: onebigmonkey
Well there's something we can agree on. Why is it such a stretch to let them get the rest of the way? Are you suggesting that they were in cislunar space but sent a probe on ahead which then met up with them again? Describe precisely what you think happened here. otherwise it just looks like you're dodging the bits you can't argue against.

They all remained in the command module, the lunar landing module, landed on the moon without them. They never figured out who to get a man safely up from the moon surface.

So in your world view they could blast off from earth but couldnt get off the moon because it had 1/6th the gravity. Hmmmm didnt think this out to well did you first check out the thrust ratio for the LM 3,500 pounds-force (16 kN)
Thrust-to-weight ratio 19.44 meaning more than enough to return to lunar orbit. Secondly you want to claim the rovers were operating on there own big flaw who removed them took a person using pulleys to remove it from the bay and they had to lock the wheels in place did they have another robot that did this as well? Than there's the fact of all those antennas only had 2 a hi gain and low gain antenna The hi gain antenna sent back video the low gain was for audio communications it relayed back voice communications from the suit limited range otherwise.Think about the state of electronics at the time technology wasnt there to make long distance communication directly from the suit.

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: yhin999
So there is no moisture on the moon? Correct? Footprints with no moisture? That's interesting.

Either the studio had moistered air or the sand was moistered.

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More likely YOU don't understand the subject!!!

You even have a interview wher Armstrong says it smelled like wet ash.

Armstrong had this "slip of the tongue" problem.

originally posted by: lecanard

And who is filming it? Hint: You can see the shadow of his helmet in the opening second.

Hmm, I just don't think that proves anything, it just proves that someone is filming, they could have very easily filmed it in the nevada desert

Except for the obvious behaviour of the particles being thrown up that show they are zero atmosphere and lunar gravity.

a reply to: Ove38

So they worked out how to get 3 men to Earth orbit, extract the LM from the SIV-B and dock with it, then get into a lunar trajectory before entering lunar orbit and you think the rest is beyond them despite the fact you think they can manage to get an unmanned vehicle to the surface?

The only thing missing in your version is keeping them alive, which they had managed to do in the journey to the moon already so it's clearly not impossible.

What, specifically, is your objection to them getting to the surface.

a reply to: Ove38

Look at a high quality version, you can clearly see movement in response to the vehicle movement.

Cables being stiff? Wow - who'd have though such a thing was possible! Driving back over the same tracks? Never ever been done anywhere!

Back to "It doesn't look like..." etc etc

You seem to have missed my posts showing rocks identifiable in the Apollo 11 TV transmission, time specific images of Earth with astronauts in them from Apollo 17 and also my picture from the Apollo 17 PSR showing trails and hardware you claim were added in a later ascent video.

Perhaps you'd like to comment on them instead of gish-galloping through the entire gamut of "looks fishy to me just asking questions" hoax nonsense.

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: yhin999
So there is no moisture on the moon? Correct? Footprints with no moisture? That's interesting.

Either the studio had moistered air or the sand was moistered.

#

More likely YOU don't understand the subject!!!

You even have a interview wher Armstrong says it smelled like wet ash.

Armstrong had this "slip of the tongue" problem.

"like".

Not "was wet ash"

"like".

Metaphor. Analogy. Learn how to use them.

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: onebigmonkey
Well there's something we can agree on. Why is it such a stretch to let them get the rest of the way? Are you suggesting that they were in cislunar space but sent a probe on ahead which then met up with them again? Describe precisely what you think happened here. otherwise it just looks like you're dodging the bits you can't argue against.

They all remained in the command module, the lunar landing module, landed on the moon without them. They never figured out who to get a man safely up from the moon surface.

So in your world view they could blast off from earth but couldnt get off the moon because it had 1/6th the gravity. Hmmmm didnt think this out to well did you .....

The still can blast off from earth, they have been doing that constantly, for fifty years ! But to blast off from the moon, with cargo, no one is doing that, not now not then.

originally posted by: onebigmonkey

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: yhin999
So there is no moisture on the moon? Correct? Footprints with no moisture? That's interesting.

Either the studio had moistered air or the sand was moistered.

#

More likely YOU don't understand the subject!!!

You even have a interview wher Armstrong says it smelled like wet ash.

Armstrong had this "slip of the tongue" problem.

"like".

Not "was wet ash"

"like".

Metaphor. Analogy. Learn how to use them.

The point is that it sliped out of him, that it was wet.

Typical Armstrong

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: onebigmonkey
Well there's something we can agree on. Why is it such a stretch to let them get the rest of the way? Are you suggesting that they were in cislunar space but sent a probe on ahead which then met up with them again? Describe precisely what you think happened here. otherwise it just looks like you're dodging the bits you can't argue against.

They all remained in the command module, the lunar landing module, landed on the moon without them. They never figured out who to get a man safely up from the moon surface.

So in your world view they could blast off from earth but couldnt get off the moon because it had 1/6th the gravity. Hmmmm didnt think this out to well did you .....

The still can blast off from earth, they have been doing that constantly, for fifty years ! But to blast off from the moon, with cargo, no one is doing that, not now not then.

So i guess you believe rockets dont work on the moon? please explain why you consider it impossible to blast off on the moon yet we see rockets blast off from earth, Is the laws of physics changed on the lunar surface?

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: onebigmonkey
Well there's something we can agree on. Why is it such a stretch to let them get the rest of the way? Are you suggesting that they were in cislunar space but sent a probe on ahead which then met up with them again? Describe precisely what you think happened here. otherwise it just looks like you're dodging the bits you can't argue against.

They all remained in the command module, the lunar landing module, landed on the moon without them. They never figured out who to get a man safely up from the moon surface.

So in your world view they could blast off from earth but couldnt get off the moon because it had 1/6th the gravity. Hmmmm didnt think this out to well did you .....

The still can blast off from earth, they have been doing that constantly, for fifty years ! But to blast off from the moon, with cargo, no one is doing that, not now not then.

So i guess you believe rockets dont work on the moon? please explain why you consider it impossible to blast off on the moon yet we see rockets blast off from earth, Is the laws of physics changed on the lunar surface?

Have you ever seen or heard of rockets on the moon ?

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: onebigmonkey
Well there's something we can agree on. Why is it such a stretch to let them get the rest of the way? Are you suggesting that they were in cislunar space but sent a probe on ahead which then met up with them again? Describe precisely what you think happened here. otherwise it just looks like you're dodging the bits you can't argue against.

They all remained in the command module, the lunar landing module, landed on the moon without them. They never figured out who to get a man safely up from the moon surface.

So in your world view they could blast off from earth but couldnt get off the moon because it had 1/6th the gravity. Hmmmm didnt think this out to well did you .....

The still can blast off from earth, they have been doing that constantly, for fifty years ! But to blast off from the moon, with cargo, no one is doing that, not now not then.

Why would it be more difficult to take off from the moon with only one sixth as much gravity to overcome?

Do you know how many craft have successfully taken off from the moon and returned to Earth? Not just Apollo, not just NASA.

Could you, just once, explain your reasoning rather than sticking your fingers in your ears and going "looks funny, looks funny"?

originally posted by: onebigmonkey
a reply to: Ove38

Look at a high quality version, you can clearly see movement in response to the vehicle movement.

This is a high quality version, and its a dummy in a remote controlled toy car. The "astronaut" is completely stiff like a doll, throughout the whole ride, there is no movement, what's so ever !

Why can't you admit that this is a fake moon ride ?