Am I Alone With My Theory On Zionism? (Please Take A Read)

I'm well aware the influence Zionism, as a political movement, has over many nations and I see a middle east region where a strong Israel has developed only to be surrounded by enemies and the region to be bordering on all out war.

However, am I alone in thinking this has perhaps all been set up to happen this way?

It's almost as though chess pieces have been positioned and this was planned to happen all along.

This 'chess game' has taken many decades to reach this stage in the game, afterall Zionism was created at the end of the 19th century and two world wars were fought before Israel was even created!

We've seen nothing but conflict since. Both Palestinians and Israelis have suffered because of this situation, but I feel both sides are victims of a much wider agenda.

From the very offset, Israel's creation has caused war and suffering, America and Western Europe under Zionist influence have made Israel the strongest military in the region. Israel has built up an incredible stock pile of nuclear weapons, yet sits completely isolated in the region with Egypt, Syria and Iran against them. It seems a perfect pretext for another major conflict

To me, Zionism is a political movement that was created by the 'elite' that will serve their agenda much in the same way as Nazism was created and funded by the elite to bring us into WW2. Everything that happens is seemingly a predetermined progression to another major conflict.

So, I see Zionism as a tool. Zionism has been exposed in recent years but I don't think the Zionists are the elite. The true elite remain elusive, none of us really know who the main controllers are. Sure, our governments in the west serve the Zionist interest, but there's a much larger game in play.

In my opinion, we are all pawns in this game, whether you are Christian, Muslim or Jewish.

reply to post by Wonderer2012

However, am I alone in thinking this has perhaps all been set up to happen this way?

You're not alone. S+F

Sounds like someone just read a certain book?


Seriously, # them though. I make it my mission to point out their utter lack of Semitic blood. That would me saying being a Buddhist makes me Indian, or a Taoist makes me Chinese.

SO ^&%!$*@ DUMB.

Also:

Keeping up with the Khazarians...

roflmao

I understand you theory and to a degree, agree with it but (and I say this with hesitation) Israel and palastine have been bombing eachover for 60 years. What makes this excursion any different?

ALS

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
I understand you theory and to a degree, agree with it but (and I say this with hesitation) Israel and palastine have been bombing eachover for 60 years. What makes this excursion any different?

ALS

That area of the world has been warring for centuries. Millennia?

Come to think about it, just about everywhere has. I bet there are a species of duck that has been pretty peaceful on the Galapagos. We should ask them to weigh in...

*Quack*

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Interesting read from the Turkish Review,

Israel's right to kill!
www.todayszaman.com...

If you ask which terrorist organization played the lead role in laying the foundations of the Israeli state, the answer is undoubtedly Haganah, which operated between 1920 and 1948 and whose presence was no longer needed with the establishment of the State of Israel. Like Haganah, the terrorist organizations Irgun and Lehi (Lohamei Herut Israel -- Fighters for the Freedom of Israel) also worked for the creation of the Israeli state, which inherited their experience in terrorism and massacres upon its establishment. Excluding the activities of the Palmach (an acronym for Plugot Mahatz, meaning "Strike Forces"), Haganah, which had as many as 50,000 militants in 1936, mainly tried to defend the Palestinian land and villages they occupied. Irgun and Lehi, which were successors to Haganah, all acted like ordinary terrorist organizations that do not discriminate between civilians and soldiers in their attacks.

rgun, established in 1931, on the other hand, considerably outpaced Haganah in terms of killing people. The Menachem Begin-led Irgun was as active as Haganah in laying the demographic and geographical groundwork of the Israeli state by Judaizing the Palestinian lands, and bombed the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which their patrons, the British colonialists, were using as their base, killing 91 people in July 1946. The Deir Yassin massacre, in which 109 Palestinian villagers were brutally murdered, too, was an act of Irgun. After the Israeli state was founded in September 1948, the members of the Irgun joined the Israeli army, with which they shared their experience on massacres. Irgun's political heritage, founded on Zionism, is currently being maintained by the Benjamin Netanyahu-led Likud, the biggest member of the current coalition government in Israel, and before that, in Herut.

As you may remember, even before the ongoing Operation Pillar of Cloud, which has been devastating Gaza for the last five days, Israel had undertaken the biggest massacre in Gaza during its Operation Cast Lead between Dec. 27, 2008 and Jan. 18, 2009, killing 1,434 people, including 960 civilians. Among these civilians there were 288 children and 121 women. In the same attacks, the Israeli army had wounded 5,303 people, including 1,606 children and 828 women. The fact that the casualties also included 239 police officers and 235 fire fighters was proof that Israel's terror machine was utterly blind and insensitive to civilians. Compared to the sheer size of Palestine's casualties, only 13 Israeli soldiers died during the operation.

As a matter of fact, what Israel is doing with this latest wave of attacks is nothing but to give a swifter death to the people whom it has already been killing slowly. Indeed, due to an Israeli-imposed blockade, the rate of unemployment has skyrocketed to 50 percent in Gaza, where 53 percent of economic sectors are failing due to the same reason, and life in this prison has already come to a standstill. In Gaza, 35,000 people were working in 3,900 factories in 2005, but the number of still-functioning factories fell to 197, and the number of workers dropped to 1,700 in 2007. In 2006, 63 percent of Gazans relied on humanitarian aid to live, but this figure rose to 80 percent in 2008. It is very likely that this rate has increased further as of today.

There is more articles on that website about the Turkish view of the war.

Israel's Middle East dream
www.todayszaman.com...

As Israel bombed Palestinian targets in the Gaza Strip from the air and sea for a fifth straight day on Sunday, preparing for a possible ground invasion, and more than 45 Palestinians -- about half of them civilians -- including 13 children, have been killed, Turkish columnists lament the fact that the Israeli operation is most probably part of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's plan to win January's election.
Star's Sedat Laçiner writes about dreams and aspirations for the Middle Eastern region. “A developed, well-educated, democratic, stable and visa-free Middle East is what Turkey dreams of. Now let's look at the Middle East that Israel dreams of: Israel wants to see Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Iran and Turkey broken apart into several pieces and to see endless civil wars in these countries. Israel is against democracy in the Middle East; it wants dictators to rule the region. Israel uses sectarian and ethnic discrimination as its most effective tool in its foreign policy. The list goes on, and no one can call any of this a lie,” Laçiner writes.

Don't forget all the money the US gives away every time they start war to

Also.

IFJ Calls for Probe into Media Targeting in Gaza Violence

www.ifj.org...

The International Federation of Journalists (IFJ) today called on the international community to investigate deliberate attacks by Israeli military against media buildings in Gaza.

At least six journalists were injured, including cameraman Khader al Zarah who lost a leg after their offices came under sustained bombing from Israel's military which targeted in the early hours of Sunday Al Shawa and Husari where several media organisations, including Hamas' TB Al Quds TV, Al Qudsa radio, Maan network and many other radio stations are based. Another media facility, the Asshurouq building, which houses Sky, ITN, Al Arabiya TV and Abu Dhabi TV was also attacked.

The IFJ says that these recent attacks serve as a reminder of the government's failure to protect journalists covering armed conflicts. The Federation recalls a similar direct assault on media houses took place the 22-day military offensive by the Israeli army on Gaza in 2009,

So why is Israel allowed to bomb media outlets and the world says nothing?

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
I understand you theory and to a degree, agree with it but (and I say this with hesitation) Israel and palastine have been bombing eachover for 60 years. What makes this excursion any different?

ALS

I agree, Israel and Palestine have been in conflict for a long time (since the creation of Israel), but it has taken a long time to set up the current situation for the remaining middle east region- namely that Israel is completely isolated, especially since the MB was allowed into Egypt by the very powers that kept the Egyptian people under a brutal puppet dictator for 30 years.

We're one or two pieces of the jigsaw away from all out war in the region IMO.

Originally posted by ConspiracyBuff
Sounds like someone just read a certain book?


Seriously, # them though. I make it my mission to point out their utter lack of Semitic blood. That would me saying being a Buddhist makes me Indian, or a Taoist makes me Chinese.

SO ^&%!$*@ DUMB.

Also:

Keeping up with the Khazarians...

roflmao

Which book would that be?

I'm not sure I may have

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Pawns In The Game William Guy Carr (1959)

I agree with some aspects of what you are saying..

I think in some aspect the entire middle east conflict is a distraction to more important issues and actions by TPTB, which may be too sophisticated for people to recognize anyway. Maybe it serves multiple purposes. Whatever the case, I believe it is central to their plan as it has been in the works for a long time.. well at least since before the Balfour Declaration (dated 2 November 1917).

Here are these underdeveloped (and not very valuable) territories/groups going at it with their feebleness, and yet they have been the center of attention and concern for the uber-developed countries for many decades. For me it is baffling the level of importance it is given in the media and in politics in general.

As for the TPTB, I believe it is a multinational organization which includes - the Brits (incl. the Scots), the Germans, French, and Dutch. I am sure there is more mixed in there. I think we have to go beyond thinking in terms of 'Nations' as if 'Nations' exist sovereign and act for their own behalf isolated from other countries. Instead, I believe their are one or more multinational entities (i.e. bunch of guys) who create an illusion of sovereign nations to serve their purposes when in reality they hold sway over several (or most) 'nations'.