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“Well, there is fear in DC, real fear, of not secession itself, but the spirit of the people behind the secession movement. If the people figure it out in time, unite and say no more for you until you get your act together, well, like I said, it is this that they fear the most.”
Originally posted by ajay59
As I have tried to point out before, it's not that people want to abandon the US but the power of those who have usurped it from we the people!
Originally posted by zroth
So "secession" is like the ultimatum that a lady gives her fellow? She has no intention of leaving but really wants to get her way.
Ultimatums never work. Citizens will either put their foot down or they won't. There is no in-between.
Secession is a tantrum where the child picks up their ball and goes home so that no one else can play.
Originally posted by 1BornPatriot
from the start of this secession movement - it has been to force the states to hold a constitutional convention on rebooting the system - at least that is what I have been told, about it... unfortunately only 675000 people have put their good names on the various petitions - out of a population of over 300,000,000 that is less than one would have thought - my source says - Obama will use reverse psychology and say "of this great nation less than 1% are un happy with what my platform and direction". only 1%, I must be doing a good job.... sort of spin is coming.... unfortunately for him - its like 99% are dis-satisfied not only with Washington but the States governments in general. and to top it all off - of those 675,000 people - most signed more than one petition which means those numbers are even lower...
edit on 19-11-2012 by 1BornPatriot because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jcarpenter
Originally posted by ajay59
As I have tried to point out before, it's not that people want to abandon the US but the power of those who have usurped it from we the people!
Speak for yourself.
I believe we should dissolve the federal government because there is no way, none, that anyone can remove the corruption at this point. There is nothing left but corruption.
We have the best justice money can buy. We have mass murderers running our country that are regularly killing foreign citizens based on some bizarre notion of them "being suspected of being resistance members". These murderers have also killed an American citizen and his son without due process, trial or charges. They openly claim they have the right to murder anyone. Sound legit to you?
We have a congress that does not even read the damn legislation they vote on. We have a gangster government looting our treasury with the collusion of Wall Street, the central banksters and foreign interests. We have the pentagon and military-industrial complex sucking over 50% of our national productivity. We have elements of our government engaged in worldwide narcotics trafficking, nuclear trafficking and no doubt other forms of contraband while they simultaneously jail our citizens for the minor crimes and infractions.
And I'm not even warmed up yet. Not even close. It would be appropriate for this government to be nothing more than a bad memory in the history books.