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Originally posted by JoshNorton
The path to enlightenment is open to all. We can't force you to take the first step on it, though.
Originally posted by KhufuKeplerTriangle
Whatever is being hidden is apparently in enough opposition to societal norms that hiding it is more important to Masons than the Enlightenment of Man.
Originally posted by Wonders
Originally posted by JoshNorton
The path to enlightenment is open to all. We can't force you to take the first step on it, though.
Originally posted by KhufuKeplerTriangle
Whatever is being hidden is apparently in enough opposition to societal norms that hiding it is more important to Masons than the Enlightenment of Man.
I'm not sure what you mean.
So, you, as a mason, see masonry as your personal path to enlightenment, is that correct?
But this path of yours, masonry, is not open to all, no one who was born a slave may join?
And what about people who can't afford the monthly fees?
No women aloud either, thank goodness for OES, huh?
Sure you masons can't force us "to take the first step on it", but you do bind yourselves by oaths?
YOU BETTER NOT TELL ANYONE!!!
Is that how it works?
Originally posted by Wonders
I wonder why you have to take this oath, seems a lot of your fellow fraternity members needed to take this oath, so that when they do feel like telling others, which is likely, hence the mandatory oath.....you're merely agreeing to get your tongue torn by it's roots should you give into temptation? or is this a "club" of "knowledge" hoarding? Hmm...such a noble little group of good ol boys playing dress up.edit on 10/01/11 by Wonders because: (no reason given)edit on 10/01/11 by Wonders because: To fix.
binding myself under no less a penalty
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by Wonders
I wonder why you have to take this oath, seems a lot of your fellow fraternity members needed to take this oath, so that when they do feel like telling others, which is likely, hence the mandatory oath.....you're merely agreeing to get your tongue torn by it's roots should you give into temptation? or is this a "club" of "knowledge" hoarding? Hmm...such a noble little group of good ol boys playing dress up.edit on 10/01/11 by Wonders because: (no reason given)edit on 10/01/11 by Wonders because: To fix.
binding myself under no less a penalty
reading comprehension is key.
Nobody is going to do terrible things to you if you spill the beans, but you should feel worse than you would if that was done to you. It's all about how important your word is to you. Nobody else should worry about someone else's character, they should be keenly focused on their own.
There, a masonic lesson for you on a Thursday morning and you didn't even have to be blindfolded.
Club: an association of persons for some common object usually jointly supported and meeting periodically; also : a group identified by some common characteristic
Fraternity: a group of people associated or formally organized for a common purpose, interest, or pleasure
Hmm...such a noble little group of good ol boys playing dress up.
Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by Wonders
Maybe you should open a dictionary from time to time.
Club: an association of persons for some common object usually jointly supported and meeting periodically; also : a group identified by some common characteristic
Fraternity: a group of people associated or formally organized for a common purpose, interest, or pleasure
A fraternity is a club, just with more specific requirements.
I have always referred to the Masons as a fraternal order or fraternity, but it can be referred to as a club along with other phrases that denote an associate or congregation.
The oaths and obligations I took, I took to keep my word. I fear no punishment as I don't plan on breaking my word.
Hmm...such a noble little group of good ol boys playing dress up.
I think so.
reply to post by Wonders
I haven't done a good sacrifice in a while...
I'm sorry you had a bad experience with a Masons, but we're still human and not all who pass through our doors always take to heart the lessons we impart during our ceremonies.
Originally posted by Wonders
Thanks, yeah, I don't use the "I'm human" excuse myself, but I've yet to take to heart some things written in the bible, such as "love your enemies", that's a hard one for me.
Originally posted by Wonders
Hope y'all find enlightenment tid bits everywhere and not just in some fancy building with a bible that's only for display.
Originally posted by KSigMason
Originally posted by Wonders
Thanks, yeah, I don't use the "I'm human" excuse myself, but I've yet to take to heart some things written in the bible, such as "love your enemies", that's a hard one for me.
Sometimes it can be a hard thing for everyone.
Originally posted by Wonders
Hope y'all find enlightenment tid bits everywhere and not just in some fancy building with a bible that's only for display.
I write a blog to spread knowledge.