How would Brits vote in the election ?

Your elections are fixed; both candidates are backed by those with the same agenda, so it wouldn't matter who we voted for

Ours are too tho, so we're in the same boat.

I'd have voted for Ron, given the opportunity, he seems to actually have some respect for the people our combined countries keep raping.

I am dubious that anyone in Britain would vote for either... and especially Obama given that even here in my deeply liberal part of England he was burnt in effigy form before he even got into Office..

I wouldn't vote as politics is beyond corrupt, all major parties are backed by vested interests and corporations that aren't in the best interests of the public or the planet. It's the same here in the UK, both parties and the monarchy are caught up in a massive paedophile cover up scandal too. We need to stop giving these criminals legitimacy. Peaceful revolution is desperately needed.

Whats the point in voting when its a two party system thats not choice thats heads or tails! Same crap here in the UK. The only logical conclusion for both our mighty nations is revolution! The sooner our masses come to this realization the better IMHO!

We currently live in a totalitarian oligarch technocracy. Freedom went the way of the dinosaurs long long ago!

WAKE UP AND SMELL THE TOTALITARIANISM PEOPLE!!!!

I wouldn't vote for either.

Obama has proved that 'Yes we can' whilst being a catchy slogan, soon proved to have no substance. Sure he has achieved a few things, but nowhere near what he promised.

Romney, has something of the Jack Nicholson look about him from 'The Shining'. He tries to come across as genuine, but his eyes tell the real story. He can't be trusted at all.

Good luck with whoever you get, but you can be damned sure that whoever it is, nothing much will change.

I had a thought the other day about this. If i was american id write in ron paul, obviously he wont win with write ins but if enough people do it a statement can definitely be made. Now over here im britain, we only have the option to vote for our local mp, no direct say on who to vote for PM.

This seems to suggest that in theory (without the corruption), the voting system in america was originally designed to allow the voting public the option to vote for real change from the top down. Well done the USA!

You still know how to ruin sport though!

Obama, without a doubt.....Who'd put a business man in charge ?!

Like a second line is needed.

Agree fully with all posters who realise that the electoral process is merely window dressing. It removes choice while giving the appearance of having choice.

And the electoral college system WTF????

So certain states are more influential in the final tally than others?
Sorry folks but if you think that that is democracy then they have won in this game of illusions.

As an interested outsider I would vote Obama, I think that his first term was sabotaged by the partisan politics (the illusion of choice) that he idealistically wanted to transcend but this and special interest/corporate supremacy is so entrenched in the political system that he was blocked at every turn. I truly believe that he was America's last hope and I fear that even if he gets re-elected he will once again be bogged down by the quicksand of the two party system and Republican power lust.

Watched a very interesting documentary on Irish TV this evening The Choice 2012

It gave some interesting insights into both candidates and their lives and influences. Romney seems to be simply a man who will say anything to appease but I fear that if handed power he will quickly show his claws. He appears to be analytical and business orientated but devoid of empathy and will try to get the US economy healthy again but at what cost? His cut out the dead wood mindset could lead to McDonalds introducing a new "McTasty Soylent Green" secret sauce which would cut welfare and unemployment figures dramatically.

Also his religious loyalties have a very unnerving side to them. One of the commentators actually said that as a mormon it is his wish and duty to help facilitate a second coming of J.C who he believes will rule on earth for a thousand years from both Jerusalem and Minnesota. If he gets into the driving seat his church will exert more influence on him than it does at present. Churches are created to control their members and do so very efficiently.
Not someone who should have the military strength and global reach and influence of the US at his command IMHO.

So that is my irrelevant non voting non American two cents.

Personally I think that as far as American foreign policy is concerned a Romney term in the White House would become known as "Hurricaine Mitt" ..........An unprecedented disaster for the United States.

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Is there an option to vote for Joe Rogan for president?

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That is interesting, I saw a similar survey a few weeks ago. In it they also asked how many foreigners wish they could vote in the US election, many said yes because they're the ones who have to deal with the consequences of American foreign policy aka "team America world police".

I don't think many of these people love Obama, they just fear what Romney might do if he gets into power, as do I.

Nice find Polarwarrior.
Thanks for taking the time to post it on my thread.

Originally posted by justwokeup
People in the UK would overwhelmingly favour Obama as they see him as less likely to drag us into another war at the first opportunity.

That and Rommney has a whiff of the 'Religious loon' about him.

Sorry thats just not true. Obama is a liar and had the gall to accept the nobel peace prize whilst ohh ye starting another war in Lybia and you can bet he's backing the one in Syria. If Isreal wants to bomb Iran Obama will help them he's only holding off until the election is done.

Don't get me wrong I would not vote Romney either I think he's just as bad. No if I could vote it would be Gary Johnston or maybe one of the other 23 people running.

It also does my nut in that every news channel, new paper hell every media outlet shows the American vote for POUTUS as a 2 person deal only.

Originally posted by citizenx1
You can't even begin to imagine how disappointed I am in the man. He has achieved nothing - even Guantanamo Bay, which he promised to close is still there.

I know international politics is a bit difficult to follow, especially when its not your country.
The Gitmo thing is far more complex. Our POTUS isn't a dictator...he is one of 3 different entities that check each other.
The reason Gitmo still exists is because the opposing side decided it would be too scary if we actually gave them trials, so blocked that whole thing.
Imagine a car with 2 steering wheels and breaks..two people driving a single car, both wanting to go opposite ways. Welcome to American politics...someone wants to turn left, the other guy hits the breaks and cuts it to the right, creating a stalemate..so you ultimately try to get people in the backseat to punch one of them in the back of the head and force a direction for a little while.

Although the system is flawed like this...it could be worse...I think how horrible it is that almost nothing can get effectively done..until there is someone in the drivers seat that I don't like wanting to drive down a path I don't want..then suddenly I am a fan of the other wheel and break system. So...ya.

What truely gets me nervous are the GWB types that grab the wheel and shoot the other guy...then shoot the drivers in other cars, and goes blazing down dead end roads...so, might actually be better if even more breaks are installed in hindsight..not because I fear Obama..I like his agenda..but Obama won't always be president. Eventually some warmonger will get in again and...ya. breaks...more breaks needed.

Originally posted by gortex

Originally posted by justwokeup
People in the UK would overwhelmingly favour Obama as they see him as less likely to drag us into another war at the first opportunity.

That and Rommney has a whiff of the 'Religious loon' about him.

I think justwokeup hit the nail on the head .
Obama for the win , four more relatively peaceful years

My thoughts exactly. It's not ideal, but the better option in my opinion.

CX.

Originally posted by jpmail

Originally posted by justwokeup
People in the UK would overwhelmingly favour Obama as they see him as less likely to drag us into another war at the first opportunity.

That and Rommney has a whiff of the 'Religious loon' about him.

Sorry thats just not true. Obama is a liar and had the gall to accept the nobel peace prize whilst ohh ye starting another war in Lybia and you can bet he's backing the one in Syria. If Isreal wants to bomb Iran Obama will help them he's only holding off until the election is done.

Don't get me wrong I would not vote Romney either I think he's just as ban. Mo if I could vote it would be Gary Johnston or maybe one of the other 23 people running.

According to the polls, pretty much the world over would vote for Obama in a 2/1 or 3/1 vote if possible.

You are the exception...but it is true..now, you can say that its because everyone on earth is stupid and your clever..or whatever..but simple statistical facts are facts in regards to the topic: how would brits vote.



So...yes...it is true.

Originally posted by CX

Originally posted by gortex

Originally posted by justwokeup
People in the UK would overwhelmingly favour Obama as they see him as less likely to drag us into another war at the first opportunity.

That and Rommney has a whiff of the 'Religious loon' about him.

I think justwokeup hit the nail on the head .
Obama for the win , four more relatively peaceful years

My thoughts exactly. It's not ideal, but the better option in my opinion.

CX.

My apologys for what goes down in 2016 btw. Generally we have a pendulium swing..go left for 8ish years, go right for 8ish.
cold war, clintons, middle east, obama, so...ya. get your game face on...we go right in 4 years, and put holes somewhere on earth. (seriously, we got all these bombs n such..can't let em just sit around and rust)

/they will welcome us with flowers.

Originally posted by cody599
Hi guys just a thought, of course we don't suffer/benefit directly by your election results on a personal level but this I found interesting.
If brits were to vote in your elections we would Obama by ratio of 10:1. So guess his foreign policy worked. At least on us

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Hootingly laughable nonsense. As a Brit abroad, I can assure you that we are NOT pig ignorant hillbillies. No-one with half a brain in Britain would be seen dead voting Obama.

Originally posted by georgemoseleylander

Originally posted by cody599
Hi guys just a thought, of course we don't suffer/benefit directly by your election results on a personal level but this I found interesting.
If brits were to vote in your elections we would Obama by ratio of 10:1. So guess his foreign policy worked. At least on us

LINK

Hootingly laughable nonsense. As a Brit abroad, I can assure you that we are NOT pig ignorant hillbillies. No-one with half a brain in Britain would be seen dead voting Obama.

I think you are mistaken. Presented with a choice of Romney or Obama take it or leave it Brits would vote Obama as the lesser evil.

'Socialist' Obama and the Democrats are centre (or even a little right) when compared to the lay of mainstream UK politics. The current US Republican party is so far off to the right they are barely still visible (in the looney aisle with the BNP).

For fun, imagine it the other way, with 'Lib Dem' MPs and Labour campaigning in the US. In some states they'd get burned at the stake :-)