Rothschild Guinness Advert Predicts HAARP Hurricane Sandy

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Are we seriously going to have to hear about every single storm and earthquake being created by HAARP and whatnot from now on?

This is the type of thing that makes me ashamed to be a member of this site.

Sometimes, just sometimes, things happen, and there is no conspiracy.

But then again none here has the HEAR about anything on ATS unless we chose to click that particular link. So the subject seems to have a draw on people who don't want to read what they are choosing to read?

Originally posted by drbatstein
HAARP was used to control the areas of low/high pressure

Saying things does not prove the things you are saying.

Prove your statement as fact if you wish your word to be fact.

The marketing guys that came up with that commercial have succeeding in doing exactly what they set out to do - get people talking about it.

Beer is beer. Storms are storms. Paranoid people are paranoid. Go find something more important to talk about and let me go buy (and drink) my beer in peace.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

But if you were to warm the waters you could steer a storm.

No. Storms are not steered by warm water. They are steered by large scale weather patterns.

If a storm is steered over warm water by those large scale weather patterns it will intensify. If it is steered over cooler water it will decrease in intensity.

Sandy would have moved north no matter what, there was no other direction for it to go. Because there was warm water along its path it maintained it's strength instead of dissapating.


BTW, how would you propose to warm the ocean? That SST anomaly of 1.5º covers a very large area. Have you thought about the amount of power needed to warm that much water that much? I'm sure you have.

I have no doubt at all that the amounts of energy available to all but the common man is tremendous, they may use an artificial sun or new particles, but it is more then likely beyond even my huge vivid imagination.

reply to post by Char-Lee

I have no doubt at all that the amounts of energy available to all but the common man is tremendous, they may use an artificial sun or new particles

A well hidden artificial sun. New particles? Why not just say its magic and be done with it?

Originally posted by flyswatter
Go find something more important to talk about and let me go buy (and drink) my beer in peace.

so let me get this straight.

youre telling this man that he should go talk about something else?

why don't you simply go read something else?

after all, abovetopsecret is a conspiracy forum , for discussing conspiracy theories.

what don't you people get about that?

if you don't like conspiracy theories or they scare you just a wee too much, hey, dont read them.

i don't like country music, it annoys me. i don't listen to it. i also don't harangue those who do listen to country music on country music forums.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

A well hidden artificial sun. New particles? Why not just say its magic and be done with it?

so, by your logic, creating artificial suns and the discovery of new particles is so far beyond the capability of man as to be classified as magic?

Originally posted by CagliostroTheGreat

Originally posted by flyswatter
Go find something more important to talk about and let me go buy (and drink) my beer in peace.

so let me get this straight.

youre telling this man that he should go talk about something else?

why don't you simply go read something else?

after all, abovetopsecret is a conspiracy forum , for discussing conspiracy theories.

what don't you people get about that?

if you don't like conspiracy theories or they scare you just a wee too much, hey, dont read them.

i don't like country music, it annoys me. i don't listen to it. i also don't harangue those who do listen to country music on country music forums.

It's ignorance that annoys me more than anything else It pains me to see people shun the facts of science in order to keep a grasp on their own far-fetched theory that has been shown to not be possible. I guess its something that I will never understand, but hey ... I dont understand heroin users and their pursuit of a 60-second high, either.

But back to the topic (which I am so bad at getting off of) - Guinness good, commercial good, Bud Light bad!

Originally posted by flyswatter

Originally posted by CagliostroTheGreat

Originally posted by flyswatter

It's ignorance that annoys me more than anything else

sure.

but ever hear the term live and let live?

his "ignorance" or lack thereof do not affect you whatsoever.

it's one thing to disagree with his theory, but some posters tend to go beyond simple disagreement...

...and then themselves drift into the quagmire of ignorance, a state of mind we here at ATS strive to renounce.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

I have no doubt at all that the amounts of energy available to all but the common man is tremendous, they may use an artificial sun or new particles

A well hidden artificial sun. New particles? Why not just say its magic and be done with it?

Well I doubt they would maintain it without a chamber. we do know since very many years back all countries were in the process of trying to create an artificial sun.

As with everything else the science is hoarded by the military and hidden away and developed and developed.


The first artificial Sun will be created in Russia

Scientists are assumed to create in this huge vacuum chamber a large ball of plasma with a temperature, which will be close to the temperature of the Sun.

hainanwel.com...

Scientists plan to ignite tiny man-made star

It is science’s star experiment: an attempt to create an artificial sun on earth — and provide an answer to the world’s impending energy shortage.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

I have no doubt at all that the amounts of energy available to all but the common man is tremendous, they may use an artificial sun or new particles

A well hidden artificial sun. New particles? Why not just say its magic and be done with it?

yes you know....newly found and previously unknown particles which are not well understood and may have a future in the production of energy. call it magic if you need to, really is on the same basis.

EXAMPLE:

CERN Discovery: Scientists Find New Subatomic Particle That Could Be The Elusive Higgs Boson

www.huffingtonpost.com...

reply to post by Char-Lee

Yes. There is ongoing research for the development of a fusion reactor. Hopefully they'll figure it out.
Calling it an artificial sun is sort of silly but it makes nice headlines.

They were looking for the Higgs boson. That doesn't exactly qualify it as "new". But just how do you think that would make it possible to apply all that energy to the ocean without anyone noticing?

Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Are we seriously going to have to hear about every single storm and earthquake being created by HAARP and whatnot from now on?

This is the type of thing that makes me ashamed to be a member of this site.

Sometimes, just sometimes, things happen, and there is no conspiracy.

But then again none here has the HEAR about anything on ATS unless we chose to click that particular link. So the subject seems to have a draw on people who don't want to read what they are choosing to read?

Perhaps because it is stated and re-stated as fact, yet no one can back it with ANY fact, and then we get the message-board commandos coming in to tell anyone calling it hokum that they are shills or trolls. Just a thought.

I do love that we have a couple of people here now defending the position, not because there is any backing for it whatsoever, but because "he has a right to state his theory". I guess, since those of us that call it bogus are labelled shills, that would make you all....thats right, SHILLS perpetuating it. see how that works?

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

Yes. There is ongoing research for the development of a fusion reactor. Hopefully they'll figure it out.
Calling it an artificial sun is sort of silly but it makes nice headlines.

They were looking for the Higgs boson. That doesn't exactly qualify it as "new". But just how do you think that would make it possible to apply all that energy to the ocean without anyone noticing?

edit on 10/31/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)

Can't imagine why you would find it silly, since essentially that is what it is.

And yes looking for something you are not even sure exists and finding it would qualify it as new.

I guess you must have missed most of what I said.
That there are very likely energy weapons and sources available to the secret developers, military or unknown persons on this planet that have the capability to do things we would find unlikely.

I am not in the know of interactions and uses of particle science discoveries or, any other of these likely existing tools or weapons. Nor the purposes behind what are done with them.

reply to post by Char-Lee

That there are very likely energy weapons and sources available to the secret developers, military or unknown persons on this planet that have the capability to do things we would find unlikely.

If such capabilities were available using them to hit a city with a hurricane is a pretty inefficient way to utilize them.

And again, applying that much energy to the ocean off of the east coast of North America would tend to attract some attention.

reply to post by captaintyinknots


i'm curious, what is it that drives you to reply at all?

are you trying to prove him wrong?

or are you trying to convince yourself?

i just feel like its members like you that muddy this website.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

That there are very likely energy weapons and sources available to the secret developers, military or unknown persons on this planet that have the capability to do things we would find unlikely.

If such capabilities were available using them to hit a city with a hurricane is a pretty inefficient way to utilize them.

And again, applying that much energy to the ocean off of the east coast of North America would tend to attract some attention.

So you say.
Dealing with a lot of possibility and unknowns.

Originally posted by CagliostroTheGreat
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

i'm curious, what is it that drives you to reply at all?

are you trying to prove him wrong?

or are you trying to convince yourself?

i just feel like its members like you that muddy this website.

And your posts are contributing...what, exactly? Look to thine own self first, friend. You are trolling this thread more than anyone, you just hide behind support of the OP.

Nice try though.

I do love a member of less than a year saying I am muddying the waters, though. Classic.

Leave Guinness alone!

I tell you a real prediction....
I predict if you drink ten pints of Guinness tonight, that you'll pee black stuff out of your ass tomorrow morning.

Originally posted by CagliostroTheGreat
heres my take on the advert.

a cloud came from the sea

this one seems obvious to me. the cloud, i.e. Sandy was born over the ocean.

It was not like other clouds, the wind could not command him

this to me is the most incriminating statement, "he was not like other clouds" could this mean that the aforementioned cloud (sandy) was not contrived in the same manner as naturally borne hurricans? in other words is this the proof sandy was made by HAARP?

The more he saw the more he did And the more he did the more he became

this one is far more difficult to interpret according to the OP's theory... i'm at a loss on this one.

You see, he wasn't just a cloud, he was a cloud made of more

again, another obvious reference to the theory of sandy being a haarpicane. the cloud was more, he was made of more.

more than just a natural hurricane?

i don't know, nor do i claim to know, the answer to that.

but it makes you wonder. if you have an open mind that is.

edit on 31-10-2012 by CagliostroTheGreat because: srtucture

miss this one did ya?

for me its a matter of being able to discuss conspiracy related topics without having to sift through hundreds of negative comments belittling the OP and his theory alike. its not just you obviously. my point is, if you disagree thats cool. but why do some posters insist on basically calling the man a, and i quote, nutbar. (not you another poster)