For those of you calling Sandy not a big deal...

reply to post by innervision0730


yes, considering the breadth of the storm....the damage was minimal and I was directly on the side of max wind speeds

the real big story is the amount of damage not done and the amount of people who are living

after a week + of doom and gloom I'm think I'm entitled to focus on the positive and something else for a while

reply to post by SuperTripps


Oh and I think there was ONLY 30 some deaths because the media over hyped to PREPARE us for it. A lot of people fled and secured their homes and business's preventing more deaths. I didn't realize that deaths=severity of events. The hurricane looked pretty severe to me.

reply to post by SuperTripps

30 people died - there really is NO NEWS here of utter importance

I am sorry to hear that you consider any human life to be of no importance.

it was only hyped because of the population zone and nyc

It received worldwide attention because it will have a global economic impact.

and yet after all this barely any deaths

How many deaths would make you happy?

lots of happy, ALIVE people , who will go back to work and live their lives though and have no need for a doom and gloom thread like this

This is not a gloom and doom thread. In fact, it is one of the few disaster related threads on ATS that is based on reality. And, as you yourself have pointed out, the death toll has been remarkably light.

reply to post by Wheelindiehl


Yeah, but there are a few people who made it through unscathed. I don't think they see past their own driveways and as long as they aren't flooded - Why worry???

The rest of the country having difficulties, flooded, dead or drowned from falling trees, no power....well they don't count in their calculations.

These people who say Sandy is not a big deal, have their heads stuck in the Sandy.

reply to post by SuperTripps


You are right, it's good to be positive and I agree. I'm just stating my opinion on being over hyped. I think it's a good thing, makes people listen.

reply to post by DJW001

and yet after all this barely any deaths

Supertripps says barely any deaths???
There have been at least 60 dead so far counting the deaths in the Caribbean.

I think one of the most important points of this whole disaster, that is what it was, a disaster of monumental proportions, at least for those who were in the direct path, was the Governor stating that this is not a fluke weather anomaly, but a serious change in deadly weather patterns that are going to become part of our lives and not going away.

It is a very big deal.

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by DJW001

 

and yet after all this barely any deaths

Supertripps says barely any deaths???
There have been at least 60 dead so far counting the deaths in the Caribbean.

edit on 30-10-2012 by newcovenant because: (no reason given)

100'a of 100s of people DIE each year by legally prescribed drugs from MDs in the US alone

every person is significant in their own right. but the data shows there are lots of people sniffing the media's fear porn nowadays

vs critical thinking in decades before

reply to post by SuperTripps


Yes and people are warned about the drugs, that's their choice to suffer the consequences. I don't even take tylonal unless I'm seriously suffering. Also, this hurricane is not everyday deaths from someone choice or by unfortunate unseen events that happen daily. This hurricane was seen and media prevented lots of deaths.

Im on the west coast, and I wouldnt even know about any real damage if it wasnt for this thread and the comments/replies. MSM is useless. I told my girlfriend about some of the stories I was reading about whats going on, and she said "the news here isnt saying any of that."
I think the sketchiest thing about this storm is the intermittent and inconsistent intensity. The Weather Channel kept showing their projected path of the storm off the coast, compared to the European weather service, and they were very different. I think the different data was because of possible factors like HAARP targets and buoys. Why? Who knows, maybe a combination of election outcomes, financial gain, longterm fear mongering, desensitizing, etc..
But hey, what do I know....

Originally posted by gemdog
Im on the west coast, and I wouldnt even know about any real damage if it wasnt for this thread and the comments/replies. MSM is useless. I told my girlfriend about some of the stories I was reading about whats going on, and she said "the news here isnt saying any of that."
I think the sketchiest thing about this storm is the intermittent and inconsistent intensity. The Weather Channel kept showing their projected path of the storm off the coast, compared to the European weather service, and they were very different. I think the different data was because of possible factors like HAARP targets and buoys. Why? Who knows, maybe a combination of election outcomes, financial gain, longterm fear mongering, desensitizing, etc..
But hey, what do I know....

anyone see the weatherwars guy on alex jones show? he's on youtube and believe the storms were guided basically

very cool stuff he is talking about

Originally posted by innervision0730
reply to post by SuperTripps

 

Yes and people are warned about the drugs, that's their choice to suffer the consequences. I don't even take tylonal unless I'm seriously suffering. Also, this hurricane is not everyday deaths from someone choice or by unfortunate unseen events that happen daily. This hurricane was seen and media prevented lots of deaths.

no you totally freaking missed the point. 100s of 1000s die per year from THEIR DOCTOR...and yet you don't see the media attacking this industry or pointing out the PAIN, the injustice, the lOSS, etc

but we got 1 million FEAR PORN bloggers nowadays fueling the MSM fear porn as well...on an issue NONE of you has control over or with your families

reply to post by reficul


It depends on your location as to how the wind travels. I used to live on a road that for unknown reasons got the highest wind speed in every storm. Two blocks over it wasn't that windy. It was an arctic winter storm from siberia and the wind chills were colder at minus 70. The wind was howling non stop. I had an inch thick of ice inside my window because my furnace quit working. Nobody else had ice on the inside. I was renting at the time and kept asking my landlord to come take a look at it. He didn't come for 3 days and apologized he couldn't believe how cold my street was. People who visited us were banging on the door" let us in!" They were shocked how cold it was. Turned out the wind blew the pilot light or flame out, he said.

So anyways just sayin, the weather channel hype of not to go outside with skin exposed was correct. I tried it and as soon as I turned at the end of my driveway, facing the wind. I changed my mind and ran back in. Thats the worst, coldest storm I've ever experienced.

where i live now the predicted winds don't turn out to be anything but trees are all over the roads not far from me.

Originally posted by Advantage
NYstock exchange closed for the second day... hasnt happened in 100 yrs.

I don't believe that... why didn't they close it on 9/11? Didn't they have to evacuate?

reply to post by SuperTripps


You might wish to consider 1000's are saved by their doctor every day. We all know it is not zero sum. We will all die and sometimes the medical community screws up. They know it, we know it, but most understand it is a better bet than ignoring medical issues. Does that make it a news story? Maybe.

With regards to the MSM and their coverage of the storm, you own your reaction. Totally all you. If you choose to take away 'hype', your call. If someone else wishes to take a way useful information that is their call, not yours to determine. Consider someone living on the seaside in NJ. Maybe they saw the coverage and got motivated to leave before the worst hits. What they took away from the coverage no one would consider 'hype'.

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
Ill be surprised if the death toll gets anywhere near as large as Katrina (fingers crossed).

IMO i dont think the two are comparable.

You are correct about this,the storms don't compare and the death toll won't even be close to the same.


But that doesn't change the impact it had on millions of people. Nor does it make this storm a minor thing to those affected.

reply to post by Wheelindiehl


Living on a coastal flood plain or island, not a good idea. The ocean is going to rise anyway, better go ahead and move now because you're getting a glimpse into the near future.

reply to post by violet


well violet,that is an amazing story! and i do believe it too,because i have lived thru similar conditions!
i wont fill up this post with my experiences with harsh weather,but i do know how the weather down the road is different than mine!
again i want to irradiate that i was speaking about the big fuss that toronto news was saying.
ya it was windy,unfortunately a lady died because a sign blew off and hit her.
trees down from wind, power out in some places ,probably from the trees down,some structure damage,but what you'd expect from a good wind storm in these parts!
i well wish the people who felt the wrath of this storm well,and the bottom line is you never underestimate the power of the weather! all you can do is be prepared and know what to do when it hits!
peace!

Also because it rarely happens. I live on the gulf coast and we get storms like this all the time, but give us a snowstorm or earthquake and we're up the creek.

reply to post by maryhinge

I cant believe theres a my storms bigger than your storm debate going on

Me neither, and that's all I am going to say.