San Francisco Police Encouraged Riots After Giants Win 'World' Series.

San Francisco's baseball team, the SF Giants, have just won their 2nd 'world' Series in the past three years.
I parenthesize 'world' because it's not really a world anything. It's only US teams.

I digress.

Being a San Franciscan, I happened to be out tonight. Not because I watch baseball. I'm not into sports.
But because a friend from out of town just happened to be having a going away party.
Firsthand, my friends and I watched people turn into drunken apes, smashing bottles and possibly shooting shotguns from the sound of it.
News reports are already surfacing (it's 3:30am as I write this):
San Francisco Riots: Giants Win World Series And Fans Act Like Complete Morons
San Francisco Giants Fans Start Riots
Here's an excerpt:

Several fires were set in the middle of the street and photos and videos of a city bus burning were posted on Twitter.
By 1:45 a.m. police scanners described a group of as many as 100 rioters setting fires, smashing windows, throwing bottles at police and damaging cars.

Here are some photos I found on my facebook page posted by friends:



Yes. Stupid. Seriously, sports fans, you guys get riled up over cloths...


Ok, on to the juice of the story.

This video leaked on ustream of the riots. 45 minutes worth. (SKIP THE AD!)
www.ustream.tv...
Skip to the 40 minute mark when the 'reporters' ask the police if they have any plans of arresting anyone or clearing the streets. He responds with a, "it doesn't look like we have any plans for that."
At this point, there are already fires, bottles being smashed, and gun shots being fired. Cops were everywhere, just watching. Some people even report that the police cheered them on (I wonder if some of the shots came from them).

Maybe I'm just going off the deep end here, but this type of action, or lack there of, leads me to suspect they wanted riots and people acting like idiots. If you let people act like fools without drawing a line, even cheering it on, as authority figures, who's to blame when things gets rowdy?

Busses on fire is serious folks. Thats batman stuff. Even if no one got seriously hurt, pictures like that can be used in very manipulative ways by the press and media. I'm not going to put it past them to make this into some type of excuse for something...
I'm not sure what.
Maybe more money for the police force.
Maybe more cameras watching our every moves.
Maybe TSA security checkpoints.

Maybe anything... Maybe...

I just don't trust the police to not be hitting us with sticks or shooting us with tear gas and pepper spray when things are getting lit on fire in the streets, cars being turned upside down, windows being smashed...

I mean, we all saw what happened at the Occupy rallies, and those were peaceful...

No. These pictures will be all over the news tomorrow. I guarantee it. A 'world' Series grabs that type of attention. The media, TPTB, they know that.

Thanks for listening to me rant. I hope thats all it is.

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Being a CA girl, and living much of my adult life in the Bay Area ....I was happy that the Giants won...my FB page is going crazy with happiness.......it is sooo sad to me that friggin idiots, the public and police included had to be such jerks.......

How did the "mighty men", the giants of yesteryear, gain tyrannical control over their populace? By making their people twice the children of hell. The "bricks" used in making their tower is the Hebrew root of leprousy - sin. Make your people like animals, in behaviour and thoughts, and you gain the approval of the "not so sinful" populace to arm & militarise the police force, eventually creating a bully tyrant's ultimate expression of his warped desire to hold life and death powers of a "god". BTW, the "giants" winning the world series shouldn't go amiss, but tragically, it will.

Wow, why can these people not just stay calm? I will say that that is not as bad a soccer riots usually are, but it is still a colossal waste of time.

I find it very sad that the police call out the riot police for peaceful protests about things that actually matter, yet they dont so anything when these pruning, alpa-male, jack-offs start a riot about people hammering a small piece of leather back and forth across a field.

Please, remember that I have nothing against playing sports, just watching them. I used to play football with my friends all the time when I was young, but that actually progressed my agility and general dexterity, however I would never waste all this energy on "spectating sports". Is this what people really find important enough to riot about? Sad day for mankind.



(Keep in mind that not all the opinions expressed in this video are ones that I share, just most of them. Also, I don't support Alex Jones either. "That doesn't mean a broken clock isn't right twice a day" as one poster eloquently put it one time )


Edit: To the OP: I totally agree with your general opinions about spectator sports, However, I doubt this is some conspiracy perpetrated by MSM and the police, if that is what your saying.

I work across the street from AT&T park where the World Series was played. I absolutely DREAD game days. People who attend these games act like absolute jerks (not ALL of them of course, but a good majority of them). Why they feel the need to scream "GO GIANTS" , at strangers, at the top of their lungs while walking to or from the game is just beyond me. Heaven forbid that they win because then they are across the street at Momo's DRINKING on the patio AND screaming. Then you have all the ticket scalpers, who never seem to get arrested or even care if there are cops there.

Also, the people who attend these games also seem to have NO IDEA how to get back to where they came from once the game lets out. Wouldn't you think that they would have thought to figure that out BEFORE they went into SF for the game? Then you have the people who own garages around AT&T park. On a normal non game day, parking might be $21-24 a day (which I still outrageous) but on games days it can go up to as much as $150.00 dollars...just to park for a few hours.

Anyway, enough of my rant..sorry..just one of my pet peeves...at least I can go into work today and not have to deal with the crazy baseball fans!

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Pretty sad. Alcoholics out of control. What can you say? Hide the women and children.

Back when the Tigers won the pennant, back in the 80s when I lived in the Detroit area, I went down to the main drag to see all the excitement. What I saw shocked me and made me aware of how out of control crowds can be. Drunk people marching down the street, yelling and screaming, getting rowdy and tearing down traffic signs. I even saw the cops going right along with the crowds. Scary indeed. I guess when it isn't a politically motivated crowd, the cops are just fine with it.

Originally posted by MountainLaurel
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it is sooo sad to me that friggin idiots, the public and police included had to be such jerks.......

I agree. There's obviously a larger problem at hand. Either at a societal level, or just a sports one.
Yes, sports makes people happy, but at the same time, with the way it's given to us, creates a large divide between the population. Almost like politics. Except unlike politics, the players switch sides all the time (ie: if next election Romney ran as a democrat, that would be the equivalent of sport players).
Anyway, people be acting fools.

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I'm not sure I totally understood your post... but I enjoyed the hell out of reading it

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perfect response

Originally posted by MichiganSwampBuck
Back when the Tigers won the pennant, back in the 80s when I lived in the Detroit area, I went down to the main drag to see all the excitement. What I saw shocked me and made me aware of how out of control crowds can be. Drunk people marching down the street, yelling and screaming, getting rowdy and tearing down traffic signs. I even saw the cops going right along with the crowds. Scary indeed. I guess when it isn't a politically motivated crowd, the cops are just fine with it.

Yes, I agree. Probably to do with the low IQs demanded from police recruits (remember that you can be too smart to work for the police). The IQs are probably equal to the crowds... where as politically motivated peaceful protests scare their wits, so they act violently.

Originally posted by Renegade2283
Edit: To the OP: I totally agree with your general opinions about spectator sports, However, I doubt this is some conspiracy perpetrated by MSM and the police, if that is what your saying.

Maybe. It just shocks me how much people can get away with after a game vs. political peaceful protests.
The police were well aware that the Giants had a big chance of winning, and no orders were issued to remove rowdy rioters. I guess I've just pre-programmed myself to think something bigger is going on. Something to better serve the dumbing down of the populace.

I wasn't going to respond, but I read through and...

OK, first of all it is a "world" series, because there are Canadian Teams, and there are players recruited from around the world, and the game is watched around the world, and I'm sure MLB would be happy to have a couple of new franchises in Japan, and Europe.

Next, those complaining about the fans, your community put up millions (sometimes a billion) of your tax dollars to build these parks, because they know what it means to the economy in your area. If you work near a stadium, and you hate the events in the stadium, just think about the unemployment line if the stadium were never built. Communities make similar investments in tax-free industrial zones, and subsidies for major manufacturers and retailers. If you want the economy of your community to grow, you need things like stadiums.

For those talking about the riots. Have a look around the world please. Look what happens before, during, and after soccer games, hockey games, etc. Look at sports like bullfighting (which really isn't much of a fight, more like a slow execution of a dumb animal.) Look at people rioting at music concerts, rioting over religion, people rioting over banks, people rioting over elections. Please move outside of your glass house before casting your stones.

Not that I agree with setting things on fire to celebrate a victory, and not that it makes any sense to riot after a loss, or riot after a win, seems pretty stupid to riot either way, but put 80,000 dumb animals in close proximity, fuel them up with alcohol and adrenaline, and surround them by their buddies to egg them on, and you get what you get.

Originally posted by darkhorserider
those complaining about the fans, your community put up millions (sometimes a billion) of your tax dollars to build these parks, because they know what it means to the economy in your area. If you work near a stadium, and you hate the events in the stadium, just think about the unemployment line if the stadium were never built. Communities make similar investments in tax-free industrial zones, and subsidies for major manufacturers and retailers. If you want the economy of your community to grow, you need things like stadiums.

Couldn't the same argument be made against war? Think about how many jobs war creates. Job creation is not a solid argument.
But I do think sports can be used in a positive way, and therefore the stadiums are healthy. It's the sports consumerism that stirs the prejudice against other teams, and therefore other human beings.
I like to watch sports sometimes. I cheer on everyone. It's fun. It encourages everyone to do their best.
Just doesn't make sense to root for a team where very few are originally from the city they play for.

For those talking about the riots. Have a look around the world please. Look what happens before, during, and after soccer games, hockey games, etc. Look at sports like bullfighting (which really isn't much of a fight, more like a slow execution of a dumb animal.) Look at people rioting at music concerts, rioting over religion, people rioting over banks, people rioting over elections. Please move outside of your glass house before casting your stones.

Ummmmmmmmmmm.... yeah, I can complain about all of those things. Right now I'm complaining about whats happening in my city... Why would anyone not complain about those things?

Not that I agree with setting things on fire to celebrate a victory, and not that it makes any sense to riot after a loss, or riot after a win, seems pretty stupid to riot either way, but put 80,000 dumb animals in close proximity, fuel them up with alcohol and adrenaline, and surround them by their buddies to egg them on, and you get what you get.

Well, if you not only don't complain, but try and stop other people from complaining, as you're doing now, don't expect anything to change.

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Actually, I don't like the job creation argument myself. I don't like it for tax-free industrial zones, I don't like tax subsidies to employers, etc. The so-called experts say it works, but I'm not so sure.

As for the complaining, I'm not trying to stop it, but I'm trying to play a little devil's advocate. Those same, loud, drunken, ranting fans are the ones making the property value for your employer worth investing in, and the same ones filling your tip jar from time to time.

Also, from time to time, I am one of those loud fans, and we don't mean any harm, we're just having a good time, venting a little bit, blowing off some steam, yelling random things at strangers and sometimes you make a new friend that way, and sometimes you start a good ol' fashioned fist-o-cuffs that way, its just for fun.

Look at this dummy

Its simple really. the cops want the crowds to get out of control so they can either

A: get all hard core and beat them into submission to justify their riot gear
B: put it all on the news and say "hey look, you civilians are out of control, we need more laws, more tanks, more cops to keep you in line, otherwise this type of thing will happen every day."

In other countries sports fans riot, football fans in particular, if their team get's beat - in the USA fans riot if their team wins - go figure?

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looks like some arrests have been made after photos have been going viral on Facebook:
blog.sfgate.com... i-bus-vandalism/