A Chic Trendsetter with a splash of Geekiness has landed...

reply to post by WhisperingWinds
I am seriously starting to worship you WW.


Oh and welcome nae.

Originally posted by loam
Pretty shameful thread.

In all of the years of being on here, I've never seen one quite like this concerning an introduction thread where the initial posting is so completely benign.

Some of you people need to take a break and go outside to enjoy some fresh air.

I could'nt agree more, quite frankly, and ive refrained posting that as i dont want to be labelled" jealous" by the OP . Im really suprised to see certain members on here flirting with the OP, i really thought they were better than that. I dunno, maybe she healthy looking and looks like she could survive for a while in post-apocalptic end of the world scenario, y'know carrying logs and killing deers with her bare hands.
btw, no offence intended op, its just that this thread has followed a very unusual pattern.

Originally posted by WhisperingWinds

Originally posted by NaeBabii
reply to post by Thunderheart
Why are you STILL Trolling my introduction? 've said it once, I'll say it again, if you have a problem with me, then stay off of here. It's that simple. If someone got on my nerves, I certainly wouldn't keep trying to read what they are saying.

You want proof I am who I say I am? Then U2U me, point, blank, period. I have nothing to hide. If not, stop trolling me and stay away. Didn't we squash this? I wouldn't bother you, if you didn't bother me.

Don't let your jealousy and insecurity rule you, babe.

reply to post by thedoctorswife


Whats wrong with Druscilla? And I may have talked to her on another thread already. She seemed fine to me.

Originally posted by NaeBabii
reply to post by thedoctorswife

 

Whats wrong with Druscilla? And I may have talked to her on another thread already. She seemed fine to me.

When did i say there was anything wrong with Druscilla,? i might not agree with everything she says, but shes formidable! (said in a french accent

This thread is totally high school. lol

Now i see why this thread has garnered more attention than any other introduction I have seen since joining. A lot of fighting on here. I understand why as I am reading responses.

I am being objective here (and am not attacking anyone), but OP, your response to the responses you deemed as trolling - as comments of jealousy kind of showed your hand that there is something ego based behind your attitude and photos. You could have ignored the person leaving responses you did not like, but you chose to attack back, telling them that they were jealous, which is not always necessarily the case. It's better to leave comments like that alone and not fire back, as you are a new member and we are are all getting a feel for who you are and what you are trying to bring to ATS.

Some here have seen people on this site that post photos of themselves that are seeking attention as a key motivating factor to posts and responses (the vast majority do not, but some do) as some get tired of it and will speak out. This site is about quality content, not a means to garner attention via personal photos. * I should state that I do not know that this is what you are doing and not assuming such (only that others may see it that way).

My bad for not explaining that better*

Take this as constructive criticism, not an attack in any manner. We look forward to reading your posts and seeing what you offer to the ATS community.

Originally posted by Rubicant13
We look forward to reading your posts and seeing what you offer to the ATS community.

Yes, we look forward to propaganda. Please go to the philosophy section and tell us about Jesus. lol
Please forget the last decade of U.S. invasions, and tell us about all the countries that are evil...

It's sad that this is what happens when a pretty and intelligent women joins.

I like that the OP is confident and happy with who she is. She can't help if women are jealous of her looks and envious of her intelligence. And I'm sure she is very experienced with men being intimidated by her beauty and threatened by her smarts. It's a sad reflection of our society where people feel the need to tear down that which they are envious of or threatened by.

It is the only logical reason so many people are lashing out at her. So keep you chin up OP, don't let the haters get you down. Their hate is a character flaw with themselves, nothing to do with you.

reply to post by Rubicant13


*Epically huge face palm *
Why is she criticized for responding to posts on HER own thread? If you want to 'constructively criticize' her for not looking the other way and not posting to things she didn't like..why not say the same for the people who stopped by her thread just to do that very thing? It feels hypocritical they can judge her, instead of just moving along if they don't like her or have anything worth contributing, but if she responds..she gets the wag of the finger? I'd rather her stand up for herself. Thats just me though I suppose.
Also she came here not to promote herself. She stated her interests, coast to coast am, etc, participated in other threads before making her own, never once saying 'Hey hey, look at me!' It is blatantly clear and obvious OTHERS have made her avatar an issue. Not her. So what she has a good looking avatar? Listen to what she has to say instead of only focusing on her picture.
Geez Louise, what a great welcome from ATS, not. 'Hey if you're pretty looking, Go Away! We will not take you seriously or listen to anything you have to say, We'll just attack you for your Avatar!' is what I'm getting out of this.
Sheez, let's all please stop the judgement. Listen to her before you all judge her over a photo..

reply to post by HostileApostle


Very, very well said!!
Thumbs up
I would star you if I could.

Originally posted by Katharos62191
reply to post by Rubicant13

 

*Epically huge face palm

*
Why is she criticized for responding to posts on HER own thread? If you want to 'constructively criticize' her for not looking the other way and not posting to things she didn't like..why not say the same for the people who stopped by her thread just to do that very thing? It feels hypocritical they can judge her, instead of just moving along if they don't like her or have anything worth contributing, but if she responds..she gets the wag of the finger? I'd rather her stand up for herself. Thats just me though I suppose.
Also she came here not to promote herself. She stated her interests, coast to coast am, etc, participated in other threads before making her own, never once saying 'Hey hey, look at me!' It is blatantly clear and obvious OTHERS have made her avatar an issue. Not her. So what she has a good looking avatar? Listen to what she has to say instead of only focusing on her picture.
Geez Louise, what a great welcome from ATS, not. 'Hey if you're pretty looking, Go Away! We will not take you seriously or listen to anything you have to say, We'll just attack you for your Avatar!' is what I'm getting out of this.
Sheez, let's all please stop the judgement. Listen to her before you all judge her over a photo..

I'm not judging her. I am stating that I see why fighting ensued. And why others treated her the way they did. Both sides of the coin. I am taking no side. I never implied that I agree with the scathing comments. Just made observations. Please do not assume that I am bashing her due to being a pretty girl. And I am not bashing the avatar. I am explaining what I saw and am trying to be helpful in telling her not to attack back at people that she considers trolls. It does no good in the end. I made a comment on her responses, because they kept the fighting going. I have no issue with the OP. It's why I stated it as constructive criticism. And explained how some people see these posts and photos based on other posters and experiences. The point is, do not feed those that you deem as trolls. Do not fight back. It just makes the fight go on, needlessly.

Originally posted by Katharos62191
reply to post by Rubicant13

 

*Epically huge face palm

*
Why is she criticized for responding to posts on HER own thread? If you want to 'constructively criticize' her for not looking the other way and not posting to things she didn't like..why not say the same for the people who stopped by her thread just to do that very thing? It feels hypocritical they can judge her, instead of just moving along if they don't like her or have anything worth contributing, but if she responds..she gets the wag of the finger? I'd rather her stand up for herself. Thats just me though I suppose.
Also she came here not to promote herself. She stated her interests, coast to coast am, etc, participated in other threads before making her own, never once saying 'Hey hey, look at me!' It is blatantly clear and obvious OTHERS have made her avatar an issue. Not her. So what she has a good looking avatar? Listen to what she has to say instead of only focusing on her picture.
Geez Louise, what a great welcome from ATS, not. 'Hey if you're pretty looking, Go Away! We will not take you seriously or listen to anything you have to say, We'll just attack you for your Avatar!' is what I'm getting out of this.
Sheez, let's all please stop the judgement. Listen to her before you all judge her over a photo..

And I would star you if I could, Katharos62191.
Such a bizarre thread!

reply to post by Rubicant13


I understand what you're saying..
I just believe if we want to hold her accountable for her responses and give her tips to ignore it and move along, we should also hold the ones who started it accountable and give them the same tips.
But I think you're just saying 'Don't feed the Trolls' and with that, I agree.

Originally posted by Katharos62191
reply to post by Rubicant13

 

I understand what you're saying..
I just believe if we want to hold her accountable for her responses and give her tips to ignore it and move along, we should also hold the ones who started it accountable and give them the same tips.
But I think you're just saying 'Don't feed the Trolls' and with that, I agree.

That was exactly my point. And another reason to think that maybe the troll posts may not have been a case of jealousy and gave another example. Assuming it's something that it may not be does no good either.

This thread is the internet in a nutshell. I welcome the Apocalypse.

reply to post by Katharos62191

Why is she criticized for responding to posts on HER own thread? If you want to 'constructively criticize' her for not looking the other way and not posting to things she didn't like..why not say the same for the people who stopped by her thread just to do that very thing? It feels hypocritical they can judge her, instead of just moving along if they don't like her or have anything worth contributing, but if she responds..she gets the wag of the finger? I'd rather her stand up for herself. Thats just me though I suppose.

I agree there is nothing wrong with standing up for yourself, but to assume that someone is attacking you because of jealousy and insecurity , or intimidation is rather childish.

I only stepped into this thread, after thunderbird offered an apology and it was rebuffed rudely with more accusations of jealousy.

So what she has a good looking avatar? Listen to what she has to say instead of only focusing on her picture.

I did listen to what she had to say, and that was my point. As far as good looking avatars, that is all a matter of opinion. There are many beautiful women on this site, that I respect and have admiration for .

Geez Louise, what a great welcome from ATS, not. 'Hey if you're pretty looking, Go Away! We will not take you seriously or listen to anything you have to say, We'll just attack you for your Avatar!' is what I'm getting out of this. Sheez, let's all please stop the judgement. Listen to her before you all judge her over a photo..

Now that is some fine judgement on why someone would respond to words said.

If Nae didn't have an avatar of herself posing, I would still have commented on what seemed to be egotistical assumptions made by her .

The fact that you assume it is all about attacking the avatar shows that you can't see what the real point is.

Rubicant hit the nail on the head with his observations .

I should have stayed out of it, but it bothered me to see thunderheart get slammed again with more assumptive attacks after she tried to apologize.

So finally to all the beautiful women on ATS..I love you for your wisdom, and intelligence, and sometimes your wonderful senses of humor . You are beautiful inside and out , but most of all I appreciate that if a member calls you out on something, or disagrees with what you may post, that you are not so petty as to accuse them of jealousy and insecurity.

I totally get the "Don't feed the trolls." And I could have ignored them, if it weren't for the sexual lingo, violent threat and rude tone that started it all. I may let people run their mouth, but not in such a way that is DISRESPECTFUL (As how everything was that started this all.) I have my boiling points, just like any one of you do.

I shouldn't have to argue defending myself. Or an opinion I perceive of a troll in MY INTRODUCTION THREAD. If you are entitled to your opinions on my looks, my attitude, my ego, etc... why am I not entitled to say the way I perceive your opinions? A little unsound, don't you think?

Let me ask you a question...

If I were to come to your introduction thread where you simply say hello and tell me a small bit about yourself and I tell you I want [insert random violent act here] to you and then list a descriptive list about things I hate (your looks, your personality, even the way you speak/type), then close with [insert an inappropriate sexual comment here]... How would you REALLY React?

I will assume you would have reacted much like I did, or maybe even worse. It might have even actually hurt your feelings, or offended you.

But then you move onto another topic.. but the comments keep coming... and then another chimes in... by this point you would be rolling eyes at the comments, like I did, and again ward them off with a snippy response, and go on about your business.

And then finally, I tell you I am forced to apologize to you, so I am saying I regret it... to only be attacked by another random person for not recognizing (WHICH I REGRET as) an apology... and the conversation about your looks and your style and your ego and the opinions about you START AGAIN...

It's no surprise my comments became a little more personal, and maybe they did have a rude tone to them in the end, but how long and how often would you let these remarks continue on a thread of yours without finally saying something?

Some of you may be able to say you would ignore them, but I have been reading and participating in other threads, and it only take one disagreement to get some of you going... While some of you are the attackers, there are a good few of you who do not feed into the trolls, but everyone is different, reacts different, thinks different, and that is part of what makes us WHO WE ARE.

Some of you welcomed me and right away became interested in the experiences I have had and the input I had to offer, and it seems some of you could not get past my avatar, which is common in the real world... but this is an internet forum.

This is not the corporate world, this is not a social ladder that I have to climb, this is a CONSPIRACY THEORY forum... Where liked minds meet and intellectually discuss things. It should not be about my avatar, or the way I type, or the way I articulate my words...

I am sorry that I did not get so upset at the comments that I didn't go cry in the basement. I shrugged them off and left a sharp tongued remark. That irritated some of you and gave you false preconceived notions about me. I never said I was without fault.

But I did so because the comments did not shock, or surprise, me. That is the real world bleeding through on the internet amplified by ten times and the anonymity of being able to say something to someone you may not be able to say in person...

If you met me in person, would you have said what any of you said to me upon first meeting me?

If it is time that it will take to "prove" I am more than what my avatar leads you to believe, then give it time and leave the infantile judging alone. Get to know me, ask me an intelligent question, read some of my other threads. I can guarantee you I will be here long after this thread dies, and I will still be the same person I am today, you will just have gotten passed my avatar.

To Katharos, Domo1, and any others that have been welcoming... I appreciate the support and understanding.

To those who have not been so kind, please take this experience and don't judge the next new member. We can all be respectful and learn from each other.

There was a violent threat? If so, I apologize. That in my opinion is uncalled for on any level. Maybe I'm not seeing the whole thing for what it was - and I apologize in that regard. Some comments were brought down before I could read them, so that is an error on my part if you were threatened in a violent manner. That garbage has no place here (or anywhere for that matter) here. Apology for the err in judgment in that case. I was only trying to give advice in the regard of how to handle trolls, and that feeding then only causes more fighting. Apologies in that regard for any violent mannered attacks. If someone violently threatened me in posts, I would have done the same or defended myself as well.

That being said, please do not be discouraged from posting threads here due to that kind of garbage.

..... damn this thread got all serious and stuff.

Seems strange to me!

I am sure you knew I was being humorous! Just to be sure I was joking about the 'respected foe' bit Any conspiracy theorist is a friend of mine Even if we wind up disagreeing on matters (?), I respect people open to questioning all things (a real conspiracy theorist quality).