Iran commander says could launch pre-emptive strike on Israel

If Iran does strike preemptively and they do not possess nuclear weaponry, what capability do they have to remove the threat of Israel retaliating against them?

I think an attack by Iran opens the door to a larger assault that surpasses an attempt to just disable Iran's nuclear aspirations which may indeed lead to a global conflict with all of the players.

reply to post by PatriotsPride

Do you think that these statements will push Israel into going ahead with an attack on Iran now?

I don't think so.

But the most concerning thing is that, from this point forward, any attack by Iran can be justified as an preemptive attack of self-defense.

Which could be true, but could also be a fabricated lie - from each side, both Israel or Iran - to launch an open war.

However, I think this is the usual rhetorical warning from Iran. People have already forgotten about the threats that Iran made about closing the Strait of Hormuz if sanctions were applied to their country.

Nothing happened, and the sanctions are in place since the middle of the summer.

Same thing happened with their warnings of war and preemptive attack about the U.S. presence in the area. The U.S. government didn't care about their threats, continued to place carriers there - along with other vessels - and Iran did 0 about it.

I dare them

I highly doubt WW3 will come of this. There will be a confrontation, Iran will be wiped out and the ruskies won't do a damn thing about it. We will continue to live in our bubble of fake freedom watching reality tv and attending sporting events.

All it will take is a few rouge zealots and "its on". Just like an assasination triggered WWI (although it brewed for years, just like the present).

Israel says: Iran will have nuclear capability within....6-7 months

Americas says: Sigh.....

2 YEARS LATER

Israel says : NO SERIOUSLY! now iran will have missile delivery systems and launch capability within ......6-7 months! do something america otherwise we will take action with or without you....

2 YEARS LATER

Israel says: Ok where going to do this without you america! just you watch.....were going into iran now......yepp any moment now.....your forcing our hand!......are you sure you wont support us? iran must be stopped

Iran says: Hi guys, we are feeling slightly worried about recent threats and we feel a pre-emptive strike might be on our minds, incase any type of paranoid attack should come our way in the future, just to let you know before hand!

Israel says: AHA! you see iran are showing aggressive behaviour!!!!!!!!!!

America says: Sigh....

reply to post by PatriotsPride


Iran, pre-emptive strike? LOL.




With all those warships we got sitting out there near the straight of Hormuz? That would be a dumb move.

reply to post by andy06shake

Originally posted by andy06shake
And 10 mins later 3-33 20 megaton warheads burst at 10,000 feet above Irans major citys, bye bye invasion plans hello stone-age Iran, just how there religious leaders, muppets that they are want it!

On the bright side they will get to meet Mohammed and Allah sooner than they think! LoL

edit on 23-9-2012 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)

Why does this quote gets starred? How terrible!

I hope you're kidding. This sort of childish mindset wont help anyone! If you really think setting a nuke on a city will end this, you're FAR from it. Why havent people figure out this simple life matter? You cant beat violence by creating more violence! If someone murdered your family wouldnt you want revenge? This is no difference than that. Murdering millions and you will have billions coming for you.
People are soo foolish these days I swear.

"raising nose up into the air,,,,,,,,,sniff sniff"

Can you smell it?

Do you smell that? really, take a hit, take a wiff.

Smell it now? Yes?

Whats it smell like?

SMELLS LIKE FEAR TO ME.

Iran is filling their panties with copious amounts of POO POO.

WTF are they going to do?

Get crushed within a month once the machine rolls out, thats what,

Oh BTW, just saying.

Well when it does happen we will be fighting our own kind to survival because if ww3 does happen will most likely be nuke fight the world will be a waste land and no one will win this war even the ones who think being in a big ass bunker riding it out when you come out there wont be nothing left. So before you worry about the war over seas there will be wars here with everyone fight for left over food.The whole world lost its way 16trillon debt here droughts,No jobs why do you think DHS is buying all that ammo and why Social Security is buying ammo becuase it looks nice no its to kill everyone.I gotta say is god have mercy on there souls.

If WW3 should come to be there could/would be only one possible causation:

It will be the Great Grand-Daddy of all Self-Fulfilling Prophecies.

reply to post by SLAYER69


Are you being deliberately obtuse? Israel allegedly has (and is widely accepted to have) all manner of WMDs - nukes, biological, chemical weapons - but they are not signed to agreements over these weapons. They hold them without oversight. Why is this okay for Israel but not for others, including Iran?

Shoot a little straighter, son. Only one country has nuked anyone else. Lots of folks test them. Only one has used them.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by CosmicEgg

 

What is absurd is the rhetoric that has came from Iran for over 30 years and a state of war still exists with North Korea.

War is good for business meaning Russia this case since they are the arms suppliers for both countries,(Iran,North Korea).

Now, there are two of the most ignorant sentences I've seen for a while. Iran spouts rhetoric. So what? So does everybody else. If they do that for 30 years, why is it now suddenly time to move on them? Because the people of the world are stupid. GG. Nice work with evolution.

No state of war exists with N. Korea. Pay attention to what's going on in the world. You've been asleep for a few months here.

"War is good business" is what keeps humanity from ever raising ourselves out of the chimp war phase of evolution. It keeps us at "Utter Failure" rating. Are you proud of yourself now?

Russia is supplying against countries like France (which has financed and supplied practically all the crap in Africa and Asia since forever), and the UK and the US. Do you think war is good business? So what's wrong with everybody getting a slice of the pie? It's only fair when it's yours side, eh? You might want to rethink your stance. Or maybe just think it first instead of restating idiotic statements you've grown up with and have accepted without further thought.

ok...

1. I'm just here for the fireworks.

2. For ppl dissing iran as a dud, well... if it was a dud they would be already at war - Afghanistan was quick, Iraq was... not so quick but well, at least had a swift decision, but with Iran we do see a lot of idling. Reasons for this are;

a) Its not easy. Sure you can bomb it, but they have a tough defense, a well equipped army, good airforce and trying to take Tehran (which is needed) by putting troops on the ground (which btw, is needed also) will be suicide. Pure and simple. You cant go through the streets of Tehran like you did in Baghdad. It will be a massacre and they know that.

b) Because of point a) above, theres a lot of preparation needed to be done. Of course israel is a dog with rabies drooling and wanting to attack iran brainlessly, the US actually has them on a leash - not forbidding them to attack but saying if they attack they'll do it alone - well, Israel doesnt have the means to challenge Iran nd no, nuclear weapons are not on the table, because if Israel dares to use them the rest of the world will prolly wipe Israel off the map instantly - this is not the 40s and that kind of behavior is unacceptable - even coming from the all-righteous-and-poor-suffering-jews. The world would wipe them and they know it. So, with nuclear weapons out of the game, Israel has no means of winning a war with Iran. Their man power (which is needed to take over) is ridiculous compared to Iran, plus Iran is "playing at home" which means they have all the advantage, so... pretty much, Israel vs Iran would be a fight with a ratio like 10.000 to 1. Israeli troops would be slaughtered and would make Israel defense weaker thus even more susceptible to a serious attack - not from Iran, but from their neighbors who love them so much for all the atrocities they've been doing for the past 50 years. Would be the perfect opportunity. Iran just needs to defend - they got their mindless dogs of war drooling waiting for the first sight of Israeli weakness - because well, its easy to be tough behind their walls.

c) Well Iran also go friends. Friends which Israel cant match. Friends which Israel cant match and the US cant afford to have an open confrontation. Some of their friends arent actually friends but "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" so they'd get some support that even the might US cant match - the possibilities of lighting up a chain reaction with russia and china are too great.

d) Proxy wars. Well if Israel is busy with Iran, and the US turns out to go party with them that leaves a lot of the troops scattered in very... uneasy places - like the border of pakistan (what you swallowed that crap that ISI officer told about the bin laden joke? They hated it and will exercise some pain over those guys at the border) and NK / SK issue which also has US troops there, but if the "main US" is fighting a true fight somewhere else, they wont be able to defend SK against a real attack from NK. The China / Taiwan tension - this one is easy, if the big dog is not watching, the chinese will simply take ... all those 2 seconds to take over taiwan. Russia also has scores to settle.

e) Image: With all the above scenarios, with or without the US intervention, both Israel and the US will seem weak, and if we were talking about Russia, well that would be ok, cause ppl respect Russia enough to recognize a "good adversary" and would excuse weakness by saying "man, its russia ok, its not some underdog" - BUT it IS a supposed underdog and the US and Israel cant afford to look weak to the eyes of the world against an underdog like Iran. If this happens, the US supremacy will shatter like the roman empire because all the small little haters will jump on the US / Israel - you know like some dogs, the bull terriers that were bred to fight bulls, one alone cant do much, but lots of small dogs against a bull will take down the bull... and like all the species in nature, if we smell blood we will take advantage of it and tear it to shreds.

f) The very real possibility that if the conflict escalates, Europe will not be involved. Well this plays a major part and while some of you may argue that the EU will jump on defense of the US, if the conflict is large enough, they wont. Plus they only have to gain on seeing the US taking a beating, so why defend them? And they know that, and thats also why they dont support Israel on this little entourage of theirs. The EU has seen the two biggest wars of the 20th century play out on their own backyard, something the US has never seen, so... as old, scarred and burned nations, they have the "knowledge of the wise".

g) Russia. Enough said. Who knows what Russia is going to do? Wait for the right moment to end all that crap? Makes sense if you want to go back to super power status. But who knows - Russia is and always will be unpredictable no matter which words they use.

3. All this silence is actually a Mexican standoff

Reuters) - Iran could launch a pre-emptive strike on Israel if it was sure the Jewish state were preparing to attack it, a senior commander of its elite Revolutionary Guards was quoted as saying on Sunday.

what was his name ?

+ I haven't seen Iranian govt to use Jewish state instead of Zionist state.

They rather use "occupier state" or Israel.

I really like to check the credit of this quote.

Originally posted by andy06shake
And 10 mins later 3-33 20 megaton warheads burst at 10,000 feet above Irans major citys, bye bye invasion plans hello stone-age Iran, just how there religious leaders, muppets that they are want it!

On the bright side they will get to meet Mohammed and Allah sooner than they think! LoL

I see that US war-machine has washed your mind perfectly.

Maybe we meet Muhammad , maybe not.

But warmongers meet Hitler.

peace and unity.

reply to post by FraternitasSaturni


You make some great points here (which I was trying to allude to). Both nations are not capable of going to war without each others supporting super powers.

ETA:

Neither nation is capable of WINNING a conventional war without a supporting super power. this conflict is a BAD IDEA, no matter WHAT side you are on.

it is sheer MADNESS to think we should have a war between israel and iran. We KNOW who the bigger players are. They are the EU and the Americans. The west no matter how diminished economically, is fully capable of fighting a 3rd world war. To pit them against the Russians and the Chinese is disaster for all of us.

It is a no win situation for HUMANITY.

reply to post by RueBakon


"If Iran does strike preemptively and they do not possess nuclear weaponry, what capability do they have to remove the threat of Israel retaliating against them?"

No capability what so ever, quite a large army and a lot of mountainous terrain and choke points that may stop any kind of modern blitzkrieg tactics being used. Hence the reason nukes may be called for in an invasion attempt by the US, UN or Israel

Originally posted by PrestonSpace
I highly doubt WW3 will come of this. There will be a confrontation, Iran will be wiped out and the ruskies won't do a damn thing about it. We will continue to live in our bubble of fake freedom watching reality tv and attending sporting events.

edit on 23-9-2012 by PrestonSpace because: (no reason given)

Woo, reality tv and sporting events.

This is the attack that Israel has in mind, I wonder how an Iranian pre emptive strike looks like including removing the threat of the dolphin submarines.Israel attack unveiled