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Originally posted by schuyler
The huge assumption here, of course, is that you have not established that any of these "lights in the sky," which is what the vast majority are, are crafts of any sort, and particularly "ET Starships." You simply do not know that for certain. In any serious discussion of the subject, you have to acknowledge that reality.
Originally posted by Erno86
If some of these lights in the sky... cannot be attributed to known natural phenomenon, like: ball lighting, meteors/meteorites, chinese lanterns, swamp gas, etc, etc ---- the only logical deduction --- by means of observations, [including my own], due to evidence of: straight line vectors, instant stops and starts, right angle 90 degree turns, USO's, burn't out landing zones, etc; buy some of these lighted orb's --- is that they are under some kind of intelligent control and not of this earth.
One thing for sure...I'am sure as hell, not going to attribute these intelligent lighted phenomena, to the likes of: Hitler's UFO's or "swampgas." Not saying you would, Schuyler, but I have to treat this lighted phenomena as a technological wonder, like something whereas the other-worlder's are not ready to share the knowlege and expertise in how to build and fly one of these Foofighters.
Just my two cents.
Cheers,
Erno86edit on 22-9-2012 by Erno86 because: spellingedit on 22-9-2012 by Erno86 because: grammaredit on 22-9-2012 by Erno86 because: ditto
Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
While this theory is in itself plausible, the very concept of gaining stealth through reducing the radar x-section of an airborne vehicle by generating a luminescent aura which is visible for many miles, seems like a flawed idea to me.
ETA: Having said that, I would rather assume the bright and colourful lights emitted from the objects in question does originate from the propulsion system and does maybe as a side effect reduce the radar x-section. Personally I think these objects couldn't care less about being detected.edit on 22-9-2012 by H1ght3chHippie because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Druscilla
Originally posted by Erno86
If some of these lights in the sky... cannot be attributed to known natural phenomenon, like: ball lighting, meteors/meteorites, chinese lanterns, swamp gas, etc, etc ---- the only logical deduction --- by means of observations, [including my own], due to evidence of: straight line vectors, instant stops and starts, right angle 90 degree turns, USO's, burn't out landing zones, etc; buy some of these lighted orb's --- is that they are under some kind of intelligent control and not of this earth.
One thing for sure...I'am sure as hell, not going to attribute these intelligent lighted phenomena, to the likes of: Hitler's UFO's or "swampgas." Not saying you would, Schuyler, but I have to treat this lighted phenomena as a technological wonder, like something whereas the other-worlder's are not ready to share the knowlege and expertise in how to build and fly one of these Foofighters.
Just my two cents.
Cheers,
Erno86edit on 22-9-2012 by Erno86 because: spellingedit on 22-9-2012 by Erno86 because: grammaredit on 22-9-2012 by Erno86 because: ditto
Actually, the only logical deduction of quantifying something unknown, is either identifying it as a known, or leaving it unknown.
Since we've never (officially) met any other intelligence than other humans that would put any craft under intelligent control, we can't logically speculate that there are any other intelligences until we have a quantity for other intelligences.
"Intelligent Control", logically, would thus need be human; either directly piloted, remotely piloted, or human-computer software programming piloted, until alternative measures and quantities have been established that anything else even exists that could also present candidacy for "intelligent control".
In exploring a hypothetical, on the other hand, one is allowed to speculate wildly about possibilities of 'alternate' "intelligent control", whether those alternative be aliens piloting a mechanical craft, the craft/objects themselves are unknown animals displaying independent motile function, and/or combinations of the two plus any other speculations, such is allowed where then the logical process of examining and 'proving' such speculations as true.
Inconclusive results, or no results leave you back at the previous unknown.