Meteor Over the United Kingdom

reply to post by davethebear

That second images is of the reentry of the ATV satellite in 2008.

Here is a video:
www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by davethebear

 

That second images is of the reentry of the ATV satellite in 2008.

Here is a video:
www.youtube.com...

HAHAHA

Classic... The BBC are carrying an inverted copy of the same image as one from last night:

BBC - It's the second image in the slideshow halfway down the page.

Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by angelchemuel

 

He's gone to the Chippy ? Sorry, what is a chippy ?

I take it your not in the UK...A chippy is a take away where you get such things as deep fried fish and chips/fries.
Rainbows
Jane

reply to post by angelchemuel


Just to be an awkward and confusing sort, a chippy is also a Carpenter...

I do love confusing the colonials...

reply to post by stumason


I have notified the BBC of their error

So many pics floating about though, I made a mistake in my thread with one too.

Heres a pic of one going over Manchester

tinypic.com...

reply to post by woogleuk


Can't we change the subject?

reply to post by doobsy

No. That is a meteor over Amsterdam in 2009.
neo.ssa.esa.int:8080...

reply to post by Freeborn


lmao, I forgot about that one actually. I was referring to one I had posted earlier along with a link to a BBC news page that was a similar time, but the wrong date...after the mistake was pointed out, I quickly hit the edit button.

You're still not moping about that one are you though Freeborn? It's not like it was your fault, hey if the BBC can put out wrong pics, what hope is there for us mere mortals.

EDIT:

Hey look, Doobsy right above your post has posted the same image....see, it's confusing everyone and giving Phage a headache, tee hee.

reply to post by sitchin

That looks very different from the other videos.
Odd how the camera caught the entire event.

reply to post by woogleuk


No, not moping at all, lol - just having a bit of a laugh - it must be very frustrating for Phage.

Originally posted by karen61057
It is being described as either a meteor shower or man made space debris. Proving once again that, what goes up, must come down.

It's only the media calling it a "meteor shower". I don't like the term being used in this context, since it's confusing. Meteor showers happen when we pass through a debris stream (usually left behind a comet), but large fireball events like this one (if it wasn't a man-made reentry) are usually cased by random (or "sporadic") meteoroids/asteroids, that are not related to annual meteor showers like the Perseids, Leonids, etc.

Having seen more reports since last night, I'm becoming more convinced that this may have been a satellite/junk reentry. Primarily because of the timing of the reports from the continent, which if correct, suggest a satellite/junk. Specifically, some of those reports suggest that this event lasted a few minutes, and natural meteors don't usually last more than around a minute in the most extreme cases. Reentries on the other hand, since the object is traveling slower, tend to last many minutes.

reply to post by Phage


He also put the 22nd, the one everyone seen was the 21st, I'm wondering if that was one of the later sightings people reported. The one in that video didn't last as long, or look as bright.

Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by MrMothman

 

That is so curious dont you think? These things traditionally do not move slowly. One source is saying that it could have been space debris. Would that make a difference in its rate of fall ? Terminal velocity is not my forte'.

Yes, in some cases at least.

Man made objects orbit at much slower velocities than natural meteoroids enter the atmosphere. Under 10 km/s Versus 10-73 km/s for natural meteoroids.

Less velocity means less momentum, which in turn means a faster rate of fall.

However, the rate of fall is also heavily influenced by angle of entry (in the case of meteoroids) and orbital inclination (in the case of man made orbiting objects). Since many meteoroids enter the atmosphere at high angles, they will descend through the atmosphere more quickly (at least initially till air-resistance becomes a major factor in the denser/lower layers of atmosphere) than an object that is de-orbiting since an orbit is a very low angle.

When objects (whatever they may be) reach lower altitudes where the air is denser, air-resistance and gravity take over, and objects slow down to free fall velocity (unless they are very large).

The truth about the uk meteor

youtu.be...

reply to post by Whitebrow


Not sure what you are getting at, but that was bloody awful!

Care to expand.......?

The BBC are reporting this as possible space junk.

www.bbc.co.uk...

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by sitchin

 

That looks very different from the other videos.
Odd how the camera caught the entire event.

I agree, all the vids I've watched so far, the breakup sequence is different...

The east coast ones show the bright ball then starts breaking and fading.
My mothers says was complete ball with flares, then breaking tail behind.
Then the irish ones show ball breaking up and the tv crew recording shows the debris side by side.

So this must have been high for everyone to see the start and end of the break up