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Do the elite know something we don't: There is no final judgement?

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posted on Sep, 15 2012 @ 06:30 PM
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The love of money is the root of all evil . The Elite as we call them are the Rothschilds . It was their plan to control the world with the weapon that wins wars , Money . But money is nothing if it doesn't bring you privilege and Power . These Power hungry people seek to own everything , the whole world . They still are doing the work of God who gives Satan his dominion and oversees the unfolding of His plan . We don't have the wisdom of God but it would seem that there has to be some Evil in this world to determine what is Holy .



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 10:01 PM
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What the elite have done is made a choice. What they are doing is following a plan.
I would agree that the afterlife is an idea generated and used by the first person to ever take advantage of another person using fear of the unknown as a weapon to control others and to protect themselves. the modern day elite do not fear the unknown, they do not fear, death, or a judgement.
The methodology is not as important as the fact that those not in their clique are slaves and becoming more enslaved each day.
Since we are becoming aware of their lack of conscience, their lack of righteous will to all, then we in an act of self defense and defense of a better righteous future for all need merely to say NO and act upon that starting now and continuing that path everyday of our lives and teach the future generations this also.

there are many non violent ways to hurt their profiteering. boycotts, constant ridicule on a mass scale, the search for their names, address' phone numbers, group activities, meeting places so that they can be plagued with protests, phone calls and general reminders that the rest of us are humans also and if that does not help.......i do not need to remind you that "they" use war, slavery, genocide, inflation, recessions, starvation, pollution, misinformation etc. tables can be turned and forgiveness does nothing like a taste of your own medicine. fight fire with because ultimately you are protecting your children,,,,,,,wwhat kind of fathers and mothers and brothers and sisters allow these things to continue unless......you are just like they are



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 10:33 PM
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You are not going to hurt the Elite . They have the people to turn peaceful protest into riots so they can arrest and attack people . Have you forgot Kent State . They will kill you . Policemen out of uniform have been used to create a false flag riot so that the heavy hand could be used . They have FEMA Camps for rioters . These camps have been in the national news and explained as holding facilities for illegal aliens . Have you seen them gathering up wetbacks ? No! Google the official Army recruiting site They are to handle the Military prisoners "You" will become when they pick you up .


As for the afterlife portion of your comment , how could you know ? Doctors have studied the Life after death experiences of people who were declared clinically dead and came back to life with the conclusion that the spirit is separate from the brain .If they can't deny the spirit /soul lives on how can you ?.



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 10:44 PM
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then you will see what you are up against . The present Administration has tried to make it legal to arrest you without trial or charges and hold you indefinitely and without representation . Peaceful protest ? They don't want no stinking peaceful protest .



posted on Sep, 16 2012 @ 10:48 PM
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Google -- Goarmy Internment Resettlement Specialist (31E) this has some how not shown on the two previous postings .



posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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Yes and he lies in more ways then one - he is a constant decevier so how do you know what to believe without having the Creator in your heart!

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posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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what i do and have been doing for years is "put a bug in peoples ears " "plant a seed" "get people thinking" We the displeased are legion. I know the elites plan it will ultimately fail, humans are screw ups, the elite are still human and err constantly. I do not do what I do for a religion or deity. I do it in hopes for a moral, righteous yet non religious future for all. they can kill me. imprison me but it is too late for I have influenced many working with the public and using the internet. We can win, we are many, they are few and even the cops and military have many who are displeased also and will be reluctant to aid the elite in the murder and imprisonment of those who seek a better world for children and innocence.

If the elite have a spark of decency they should use their power to make the world a better place for all, it can be done unless the elite truly lack the scope and that would be one more weakness that could be their undoing.
do not fear them, they are not infallible, their technology is not infallible, they are humans and the world is too much for them that is why they now seek to reduce because it has grown too complex for them. all we have to do is bury them under paper, never stop complaining, hate them in your hearts, direct your most vile thoughts at them. and every chance you get undermine their efforts. they will collapse.



posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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God is infallable and the events you see parallel biblical prophecy for the latter days .The creation of the NWO and global currency fits into the prophecy as well as this Israel / Arab -Russia war looming very large at this time . We are entering into the GREAT TRIBULATION and there is nothing we can do about it .reply to post by partycrasher
 



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 10:58 PM
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the buybull like the freemasons albert pikes book like dianetics by l ron hubbard etc. these books are all templates or blueprints, their churches, club meetings etc, all support groups for the building of and subsequent destruction of empires.

these types have built and destroyed empires before using these books and the ideas therein as guidelines so it so very easy to predict what you are going to create.

i feel bad for people who need to be led by their nose.....and of course you are thankful that so many have provided you with the collar, harness and leash because you lack the ability to self govern.

when you are ready to wake up just...wake up.



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Your answer is actually quite simple, though I won't go into details.
Its because only a very small minority of them believe that there is anything after death.
They don't worship “fallen angels”, and many also don't believe there really is a God.
...Yet they are not atheists.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Jul, 28 2013 @ 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by SimonPeter
God is infallable and the events you see parallel biblical prophecy for the latter days .The creation of the NWO and global currency fits into the prophecy as well as this Israel / Arab -Russia war looming very large at this time . We are entering into the GREAT TRIBULATION and there is nothing we can do about it .reply to post by partycrasher
 




Because most of these (organised) evil elite are church going people they must be aware of what the great tribulation is about. Does God influence these evil elite with the evil choices they make or is it the elite which on purpose use the word of God as an agenda and make the biblical prophecy happen....?



posted on Sep, 27 2021 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: NinpheaAurora
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Grand Druid Council of Three (aka WItches)


Because of an other thread I dug up this old one and passed your reply. Bit late...almost 10 years..lol..but can you explain your comment?




posted on Sep, 28 2021 @ 04:16 PM
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originally posted by: zatara
I am convinced that there is a group of people above the law. This is an international large group of people in the highest places who consider themselves better than the common folks. I also am convinced that these people worship for the "outside" the God most of us worship as a christian or muslim. But among themselves in secrecy worship something entirely different instead.

Nope, they are pawns and victims of the same “god of this system of things [who] has blinded the minds of the unbelievers” (2 Cor 4:4). “The one called Devil and Satan who is misleading the entire inhabited earth.” (Rev. 12:9) After all, “the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19) Just like the (self-professed) Christians and Muslims you mentioned, they are influenced by demonic spirits: “You at one time walked according to the system of things of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit that now operates in the sons of disobedience.” (Eph. 2:2) They are “paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, whose conscience is seared as with a branding iron.”​ (1 Tim 4:1,2)

None of these supposed "elites" are truly in control of the world, someone else is:

One of his main methods of control, indoctrination, conditioning and brainwashing:

False Religion is a Snare and a Racket (playlist)

And one of the major components of false religion (Babylon the Great) is discussed below:

If you want to see the earlier linked playlist, starting with the 1st video, so you don't miss another major false teaching coming out of Babylon the Great, here's a convenient link:

Real science, knowledge of realities compared to unverified philosophies and stories

Containing everything you need to know about those deceiving you and about what, and who's really responsible. Although, you'll have to get yourself passed* this phenomenon that Satan has made efficient use of (*: by means of asking for God's help, cause you can't do this on your own, and you'll have to ask the right God, in the right way, which will be made clear in the playlist):

“For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the wholesome* [Or “healthful; beneficial.”] teaching, but according to their own desires, they will surround themselves with teachers to have their ears tickled.* [Or “to tell them what they want to hear.”] They will turn away from listening to the truth and give attention to false stories.” (2 Timothy 4:3,4)

“So we should no longer be children, tossed about as by waves and carried here and there by every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in deceptive schemes.” (Ephesians 4:14)

“Look out that no one takes you captive by means of the philosophy and empty deception according to human tradition, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ;" “We have much to say about him, and it is difficult to explain, because you have become dull in your hearing. For although by now* [Lit., “in view of the time.”] you should be teachers, you again need someone to teach you from the beginning the elementary things of the sacred pronouncements of God, and you have gone back to needing milk, not solid food. For everyone who continues to feed on milk is unacquainted with the word of righteousness, for he is a young child. But solid food belongs to mature people, to those who through use have their powers of discernment* [Or “their perceptive powers.”] trained to distinguish both right and wrong.” (Col 2:8; Hebrews 5:11-14)
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posted on Sep, 28 2021 @ 04:31 PM
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This documentary probably has the most crucial information in that playlist:



You'll have difficulty processing and accepting that information if you can't get rid of the M.O. (way of thinking and pattern of behaviour, see Eph 2:2 quoted in my previous comment) described at 2 Timothy 4:3,4 though (which as mentioned before, you can't do on your own).

“And stop being molded by this system of things, but be transformed by making your mind over, so that you may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God.” (Romans 12:2)
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posted on Sep, 28 2021 @ 04:49 PM
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It's not that there is no God or judgment but more the fact that, just like Lucifer they don't fear God. Evil doesn't fear good if it did it wouldn't be evil and those whom are evil do not fear God. I don't know why they don't but they obviously don't and the why's don't matter, only the fact that they do what they do.

It's all part of God's eventual plan, he said there would be people full of self love, that would rebel,which is what he was referring to. It's not wrong to love yourself as we are all created I'm the image of God and should love ourselves as we are the temple. The self love that is referenced I'm the Bible is a prideful love, it's more about putting God second and loving your desires more.

That is why we see evil people. It has nothing to do with an absence of God but of an absence of fear of God.



posted on Sep, 28 2021 @ 07:08 PM
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If there was a serious psychic resistance to what is happening, the only sign that you would see , is the result of a fully worked out plan, steadily turn to #.



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