So.. Shark Mauls Surfer On Remote Australian Beach ... time to kill the sharks!!!

So i just read an article on sky news speaking of another shark mauling a human...

news.sky.com...

A 34-year-old surfer is in a stable condition after being attacked by a shark in a remote area of Western Australia. The man was bitten in the abdomen and on the right arm while surfing at Red Bluff on Australia's north west coast on Tuesday afternoon. The victim, Jon Hines, was helped to safety by a fellow surfer and driven by beachgoers for an hour-and-a-half over dirt tracks to meet an ambulance, which then transferred him to a hospital 140km (85 miles) away in Carnarvon

My reaction.....
So there's talk of culling off plenty of great whites and other various sharks of the ocean around australia due to the number of people killed every year worldwide by sharks which funnily enough in the last year is 5... Yes 5!! How many people killed in Japan every year by Giant Hornets.. 70. That is correct 70!! By an insect! Best to leave sharks alone, we kill millions of them every year, 5 mugs each year is nothing. If there's sharks in the water or reports there could be sharks.... Don't go in the #ing water!!! wtf people is that too hard to understand?? humans surfing in shark infested waters = sharkfood!!! Simple as!!

#$%$ sharks have a right to be there, that's THEIR home, humans (epsecially ones with brains ) know the risks and yet they still go in... sure enough humans have been killing sharks by their hundreds of thousands every year to make soup and etc whilst these gits in Australia basically wanna cull these poor creatures so their poxy swimmers can swim in peace, crazy, just crazy.

What are you're thoughts on the subject ???

I agree, Humans are barbariac and think they're superior to other animals. Plain and simple we don't live in the oceans, we're literally an alien species. When we go into the ocean we are in a sharks habitat, when wild animals come into the city they're usually shot or tranquilized and moved why should we expect differently when we go into a sharks turf.

Not to mention the shark nets are disgusting, it's not just sharks they trap.

its ok for a shark to maul and kill humans, but when humans try to defend themselves and clear an area for the safety of their families, kids and loved ones, people start harping on the poor and defenceless sharks.

go tell that to the families who are never going to see their loved ones on earth again.

the ocean is a massive place, they have all of it to hunt, swim and breed in.

its not unreasonable to clear a few miles of beach to avoid accidents and deaths of swimmers.

one human life is worth more than all the sharks in the world.

This is ridiculous. Sharks are some of the longest living creatures on this planet. My Great Grandfather was from Australia. One day he was walking his dog on the beach, a sand shark came right up in low tide and grabbed his leg let go then grabbed his dog. Killed his dog, left some bite scars on his leg. Did he go and start a kill the sharks campaign no. He went on to tell his story of this top predator. He fought in both world wars and he said that was the only time he feared for his life. He gained nothing but respect for nature.

The sharks need to be left alone & the public/tourists etc need to be educated that if you enter their habits expect to be attacked or eaten, all they are doing is what comes natural to them & that is to hunt. Silly humans

That's like a thief breaking into your home.

The surfer should not have been in the sharks home...

Originally posted by randomname
its ok for a shark to maul and kill humans, but when humans try to defend themselves and clear an area for the safety of their families, kids and loved ones, people start harping on the poor and defenceless sharks.

go tell that to the families who are never going to see their loved ones on earth again.

the ocean is a massive place, they have all of it to hunt, swim and breed in.

its not unreasonable to clear a few miles of beach to avoid accidents and deaths of swimmers.

one human life is worth more than all the sharks in the world.

Ummm. Are you being sarcastic? I hope you are. If you're not youre a prime example of a pompous barbaric human. Just like someone stated above, If someone broke into your house would you attack them? YOU'RE going into the sharks turf. You're not from the ocean, its the sharks habitat not yours.

Ugh, they do this EVERY time! Same when they have the croc attacks. It's ridiculous! You can't go into the home of a predator and be surprised if there is the occasional casualty. Surfers know the risk! I just watched the Indian Ocean doco with Simon Reeve, and they were in South Africa and dove with great whites, they swam right past, because they had no interest in eating them, shark attacks on surfers are always usually the shark thinking they are a seal or another large member of their food chain, they don't just see people and think ATTACK as they would have us believe.

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Yes it's not unreasonable to clear out a few miles for the safety of humans and to just relax. And yes, sharks do have the entire ocean to hunt and breed. But sharks do NOT have the mental capacity to agree to that logic. It's not like when we clear off a section of the coast for ourselves, the sharks just think to themselves "Oh, this small chunk of coast is for humans? Alright, I'll just leave them be, that's fine." It's their instinct to hunt & survive! They see what they think is an easy meal sitting in the water, they're gonna go after it to feed themselves and see the next day. Sharks don't see it like you & I do.

I've had this argument with many a friends this past few months.

Now, there have been 5 FATAL attacks in WA in the past 12 months.
Consider Australi as a whole averaged 1.1 shark attacks per year, WA has official knocked up 5 in 12 months.

This officially propelled us into the number 1 spot on EARTH for deadly shark attacks.

Somethings changed, we never were this bad, and you only need to watch the nightly news to see how many sightings there are daily...

And these fatal attacks dont take into consideration the people whove simply gone missing in the water never to be seen again.

You might have heard about the 3 fisherman who got swamped in their boat recently.
www.abc.net.au...
1 was found 11hours later floating in the water with a massive shark circling him, the younger son was never found again. < This man was a personal friend whom id worked with, he was a very fit strong man and there was an island near by, its believed he was taken pretty quickly by a shark, But something like this will never be recorded as an attack.

And lets be honest, these two fellas were mightly lucky they werent victims 7 and 8.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

They managed to get back to their boat when this shark stalked them..



SO now back on topic,

I dont think we should hunt sharks in their natural territory..

But when the sharks start coming onto local beaches where people frequent, thats a different story.

If a tiger/lion kept walking into a village in africa and taking people, you'd hunt it no doubt, even though the african village is probably on land its family roamed decades ago.

There's obviously a killer shark cruising Perth beaches, there's been a drastic increase in the numbers sighted, so I definately think its time to create a boundary.

Any shark appears 2kms from surfers or swimmers we scare it off somehow, maybe small underwater seismic explosions.. if it continues to stalk we kill it,

humans are the ones invading the great white habitat, not the other way around.

Its not like great whites are cruising the streets eating pedestrians.

I say you swim in shark infested waters its on you what happens not the shark.

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Do we have gills? No.

Stay out of the territory of those that naturally rule the ocean. They were built for it. We weren't.

If a shark walks up onto the beach and takes a chunk out of a someone THEN I'm a get me some shark fin soup.

Maybe if people would stop depopulating the fish, the sharks might quit depopulating our beaches.

Regardless- like the others said- The water is their territory. Come into my territory, and I might bite you too!

Perhaps if people looked into it further...

Politician have said they WILL NOT introduce shark nets because of the damage they cause to marine life.

au.news.yahoo.com...

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The state's premier, Colin Barnett, said he was considering easing restrictions on both the number of sharks professional fisherman could catch, and on culling large great whites that lurk close to swimming areas.

That means there is a possible go-ahead for shark culls.... no further reading into it was necessary

Sharks need to be left alone AT ALL COSTS!!!!.....
The ecological impact the decline is having on the worlds oceans is massive , yet greatly untold.

Shark finning is the practice of slicing off the shark's fins while the shark is still alive and throwing the rest of its body back into the ocean where it can take days to die what must be an agonising death. Some sharks starve to death, others are slowly eaten by other fish, and some drown, because sharks need to keep moving to force water through their gills for oxygen. Shark fins are used as the principal ingredient of shark fin soup, an Asian "delicacy". Demand for shark fin soup has rocketed in recent years due to the increased prosperity of China and other countries in the Far East. Shark fin soup, which can easily cost $100 a bowl, is often served at wedding celebrations so that the hosts can impress their guests with their affluence. Because there is such a high demand for shark fins, traders can make a lot of money from shark fin, but it is the restaurant owners who really "make a killing" in this foul trade.

Fishermen are only interested in the fins because shark meat is of low economical value and takes up too much space in the hold. It also contains urea, which turns to ammonia once the shark has died and contaminates other fish.

Shark fin itself is tasteless, it just provides a gelatinous bulk for the soup which is flavoured with chicken or other stock. Many people, especially the consumers, are unaware of the sufferring that finning causes.


3 sharks are being killed every second so people
can use their fins to make shark fin soup.

What effect has finning had on shark populations?

To put it bluntly, shark populations have been decimated. Globally. Tens of millions of sharks are slaughtered every year to satisfy the demand for shark fin soup; at least 8,000 tonnes of shark fins are shipped to restaurants around the world. Fishermen report that sharks are getting smaller because they are not being given time to mature. Shark populations take a long time to recover as they can take over seven years to reach maturity and they only raise one or two pups a year. Twenty species of sharks are listed as endangered by the World Conservation Union (IUCN). In a few years many species of shark could become extinct if action is not taken immediately. Populations of many shark species have fallen by over 90%. Since 1972 the number of blacktip sharks has fallen by 93%, tiger sharks by 97% and bull sharks, dusky sharks and smooth hammerheads by 99%.

What will happen to the oceans if sharks become extinct?

The consequences of the decline in shark populations on ocean life are immense. The large shark species are "apex" predators, they are ecological stablisers, once they are gone, all hell will break loose. For example along the US East Coast where large sharks such as black tip and tiger sharks have been virtually elimated, there have been declines in shellfish numbers and a reduction in water quality (shellfish filter sea water). Populations of small sharks, rays and skates have increased rapidly, consuming shellfish at an unsustainable rate. If you remove apex predators from an ecosystem the result is the same as removing the foundations from a building - total collapse.

This barbaric slaughtering MUST STOP before it is too late and these precious creatures reach the level of near extinction...

When is enough enough ??? Sharks ought to be protected by world regulations... Nations need to realise the impact the killing is having on the planet as a whole.... It must end... It must end NOW !!!!!

Sharks are already being culled.

An incredible 100 million sharks are killed each year. In other words, over 270,000 sharks are fished each and every day. This rate is pushing many species to the edge of extinction.

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Originally posted by randomname
its ok for a shark to maul and kill humans, but when humans try to defend themselves and clear an area for the safety of their families, kids and loved ones, people start harping on the poor and defenceless sharks.

go tell that to the families who are never going to see their loved ones on earth again.

the ocean is a massive place, they have all of it to hunt, swim and breed in.

its not unreasonable to clear a few miles of beach to avoid accidents and deaths of swimmers.

one human life is worth more than all the sharks in the world.

Give me a break. Surfing in the middle of an ocean is a RISK, you're in THEIR habitat. No reason to go killing off a species because some meathead wants to ''hang ten''. They know the risk going in. As far as safety for families, kids, and loved ones, they're not usually out in the middle of the ocean swimming, so that was lame to post in the first place. And what do you mean by clear an area for safety? Did you even think before you posted?

Be weary when invading THEIR territory.

Second line.

Since sharks have no urinary tract and urine accumulates in the blood before secretion through their skin, sharks must be bled immediately after capture. If a shark is not bled or improperly handled, it will smell of ammonia.

library.thinkquest.org...

If only people knew what they were buying then sharks would be a lot safer.
I have caught a shark and ate it before and it is the stinkiest fish i have came across that is so sought after.
Honestly i will not try to catch or eat one again.