WHY on Earth would you write in RP if you can vote Gary Johnson/Jim Gray??!

PEOPLE PLEASE. What is the thought process behind that??! You have the choice to vote for a LIBERTARIAN, you know, that thing RP is supposed to be. Gary and Jim are on the ticket! VOTE FOR THEM! Anti-War, Anti-Fed, Anti-Big Gov., Anti-abuse of your rights. Rings a bell!!! If they get enough votes we can start to get through to others that a multi-party system beyond the fake 2-party only system is possible and in some ways inevitable moving forward. VOTE GARY JOHNSON/JIM GRAY!!!



Check out my other thread from for more supporting arguments:

WHY is no one focusing on the need to do away with the 2-party system?!
www.abovetopsecret.com...

People will vote for RP over Johnson because he has been saying the same things for over thirty years. Look at all the predictions that he has made that has come true. Not to mention he has a far better chance at winning the election over Johnson.

Unfortunately OP the way the world works now is people are going to read this and say "Vote for who and who???

If Libertarians want a shot - they need to form a super pac and spend some money on advertising. Otherwise they won't even go down in history as also rans.

Sorry but true.

~Heff

While I respect and agree with your notion to fight against a two party system, it is a 2 party system and will continue as such for at least 20-30 years. We Americans, even the eccentric, off, free thinkers, people who populate this board, are so used to and taken by the two party system, it won't change for decades realistically.

That said, very few will vote for the libertarian duo because very few of us really know who they are, no disrespect to them at all. We know Ron Paul well enough, and have enough respect in the man to throw that in as a write in.

I imagine Ron Paul will likely be the highest percentage write in in US history.

Originally posted by buster2010
People will vote for RP over Johnson because he has been saying the same things for over thirty years. Look at all the predictions that he has made that has come true. Not to mention he has a far better chance at winning the election over Johnson.

I agree with most of that , but the problem is that RP also has another disadvantage if the GOP doesn't select him or if he doesn't run as a third party.

There are several states that don't allow write-ins
www.anamericanvision.com...

I hope he runs as a third candidate so everyone can vote for him.

Originally posted by buster2010
People will vote for RP over Johnson because he has been saying the same things for over thirty years. Look at all the predictions that he has made that has come true. Not to mention he has a far better chance at winning the election over Johnson.

Listen, I feel you man. But how can you say what you just said. How can RP have a better chance of winning if he will NOT be on the ballot and Johnson WILL. We know Johnson is not going to win, but it is much more of a statement to have him, a LIBERTARIAN, have a decent eye brow raiser showing than no one EVER knowing how many people wrote in RP on the ticket???!

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you guys do understand they will NOT count the number of write-ins as they will all go straight to the trash can (for them to count write ins the candidate would have to be on all of the other ballot on all states and for some reason or another not on the ballot of your local district). SO how is that a statement? Are you guys dreaming that CNN will come up after the election and put out a story "Record number of write ins for RP!" NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!

Because RP has stayed the course for 30+ years.
Now I will stay the course on my decision to write RP in.

Originally posted by interupt42

Originally posted by buster2010
People will vote for RP over Johnson because he has been saying the same things for over thirty years. Look at all the predictions that he has made that has come true. Not to mention he has a far better chance at winning the election over Johnson.

I agree with most of that , but the problem is that RP also has another disadvantage if the GOP doesn't select him or if he doesn't run as a third party.

There are several states that don't allow write-ins
www.anamericanvision.com...

I hope he runs as a third candidate so everyone can vote for him.

I wish he would run as a third party also. Because not allowing write ins should be banned because they are taking away the peoples right to vote for who they choose.

Unfortunately in some states like Missouri, it's illegal for Paul to collect votes by write in. Failing the primary made that happen as they have it written here.

I'd be open to Johnson if I knew much about him in terms of any public awareness. I've heard the name but I promise of all the people I know and to include the folks at the college, I'll get blank stares 9/10, if not all 10.

If they're serious they have to have a profile high enough for the average person to have at least heard the name in more than the most casual passing way, IMO.

Did Johnson receive money from the Bilderberg group steering committee like Ron Paul did? If not, then that's one great reason to vote for Johnson over Paul.

Very simple, they are not Ron Paul! Why on earth would you not insist on Ron Paul for president?

Probably because someone already wrote in 3 other candidates they don't want. Gary Johnson has had even less media exposure than Ron Paul, so the average person that gets their information from MSM will just scratch their head when they see Gary's name.

I have to apologize for posting the above though, because the presidential election is a scam; so it won't matter who you vote for or write in...Thanks Electoral College!

I do not believe it is even possible to write in a name in Florida everything has been changed over to electronic voting machines. After the RNC changed their own rules to exclude RP I can guarantee I will not be supporting the republicans in any way.

Can I has Ron Paul/Gary Johnson?

Originally posted by RealSpoke
Did Johnson receive money from the Bilderberg group steering committee like Ron Paul did? If not, then that's one great reason to vote for Johnson over Paul.

Does Johnson voting record go against the Bilderberg group steering committee like Ron Paul does? If so, who cares who donates to his campaign as long as his voting record is consistent like Ron Paul has had for the last several decade.

Campaign contributions is a problem with ObamNey 2012 because their voting record goes against their party ideals and does not match what they preach. In addition ObamNey plan coincidentally benefits their contributors which also encourages bigger gov't.

You can't control who donates to your party and as far as I can tell Peter Thiel is a devote libertarian so I can see why he would donate to RP. I think Peter Thiel even has plans to start a libertarian society :www.christianpost.com...

Because with the Republican Convention just days away and not knowing what Ron Paul's intentions are afterwards it is just too gol darn early to say the heck with Paul and make a decision to go and support someone else before the primary season is over with while he is still in the game. Does that make any sense to you and maybe you can understand why your question is about a week or so too early?

Gary Johnson may be a good choice in November but just as the finish line for the race Ron Paul and his supporters have been competing for is so close it is rather ludicrous to quit on Paul at this very last moment. Keep your shirt on!

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Wanting to get rid of corporate regulation goes against the Bilderberg group?

think Peter Thiel even has plans to start a libertarian society

Peter Thiel hates the constitution and works with government spy agencies... Libertarian in his dreams I suppose. He also thinks women getting the right to vote was the downfall of the USA. Such a freedom fighter. There is a reason why he is a member of the Bilderberg group, there's also a reason why gives millions to RP.

Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
Because with the Republican Convention just days away and not knowing what Ron Paul's intentions are afterwards it is just too gol darn early to say the heck with Paul and make a decision to go and support someone else before the primary season is over with while he is still in the game. Does that make any sense to you and maybe you can understand why your question is about a week or so too early?

Gary Johnson may be a good choice in November but just as the finish line for the race Ron Paul and his supporters have been competing for is so close it is rather ludicrous to quit on Paul at this very last moment. Keep your shirt on!

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Real question here.

Can I assume by your post you and others think Ron Paul still has a chance? I thought everyone has realized that at this point.

For myself and many others in states like my own writing in Ron Paul or anyone else for that matter will not be an option because of electronic voting machines. I wonder what people are going to do when they go to vote planning to write in a name and they are faced with this dilemma.

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
Because with the Republican Convention just days away and not knowing what Ron Paul's intentions are afterwards it is just too gol darn early to say the heck with Paul and make a decision to go and support someone else before the primary season is over with while he is still in the game. Does that make any sense to you and maybe you can understand why your question is about a week or so too early?

Gary Johnson may be a good choice in November but just as the finish line for the race Ron Paul and his supporters have been competing for is so close it is rather ludicrous to quit on Paul at this very last moment. Keep your shirt on!

Can I assume by your post you and others think Ron Paul still has a chance? I thought everyone has realized that at this point.

The Ron Paul candidacy still has a chance to influence this election on several levels. One of those might be to open the door much wider to third-party candidacies and thereby modernize American democracy if the Republican Party succeeds in making a mockery of the process in their attempt to fully marginalize Paul and the liberty faction.

This Convention provides the ingrained and oppressive powers the opportunity to publicly over-play their hand for all the world to see. And, yes, if played fairly and by the book there would be every opportunity to nominate Ron Paul from the floor, have a brokered convention, and the possibility of any number of outcomes other than the RNC's wishes of having a coronation event with solid and celebrative backing and support for their selectee. I think many have realized that at this point.

Should I assume from your reply there is a pressing urgency to forego finishing this pageant so that Gary Johnson receives the advantage of having some Paul supporters in his corner a week earlier than if this possibly history-making drama gets played out to its very end conclusions? Would that make the world a better place, other than just for the RNC and the current Two-Party paradigm as we have come to know and love it?