My problem with Conspiracy Theories......NWO, Illuminati, chemtrails, etc..........

George Carlin - Conspiracy Theorists
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reply to post by nightstalker46

So what do you make of the dozens of chemtrail patent's?

Well the big question here is do you really think if there was some nefarious spraying going on covertly why would they have patents that would show what they are doing and are able to find with a little research?

As for what I think about those patents they are real but they in no way prove that chemtrails are real, Sorry....

reply to post by Poveglia


By now you have been presented with much info on NWO, but still seem to discount it. I'll give you a few more sites to examine but I'll state for the record that I have been researching this info. since the early 70's. At first, I was as skeptical as you are. but having the benefit of enough time (old age does that to you) to watch events unfold almost exactly as the NWO practitioners had predicted, I am convinced. Being a military guy, you especially, need to understand the basis of the conspiracy. I hope these links help you to decipher what obviously is very complicated. If you are under 40, your brainwashing began in elementary school. I don't mean for that to be taken as any form of sarcasm or insult, but it is true.

I know it;s been a while, but I hope you continue to respond.

www.threeworldwars.com...

I recommend you start at the beginning of the web page and read it all.

Being military, you should be interested in the vision of Albert Pike in 1871, describing 3 World Wars. The conditions for WWIII are being staged right now. Even you should see the pattern.

Happy reading and good luck.

I do believe there are a few people controlling some aspects of society, i think at this point it is almost certain.
Few people making the important decisions especially when money is involved.
I do believe the rise and fall of certain corporations are decided behind closed doors, but many people tend to bring this to absurd levels.
And the funny thing about NWO ideas is that you are given a bunch of names, a bunch of places, but everything remains vague. "THEY" are out to get us.
And more importantly, if this super secret plan is going on, why leave all this proof behind? why leave traces for everyone to follow, why make it so that anyone with an internet connection and a free weekend can put the pieces together? it's one thing to fill the world out with symbols they believe have magical properties, but to actually lay out the plan for everyone to know?
I know some will say "the best way to hide is out in public"
but then how come only AFTER the twin tower attacks people are linking that to the NWO? if leaving symbols and hints all over the place is their modus operandi shouldn't there have been proof of the upcoming sept 11 attacks?
And if they do have all this power why is it taking them so long?
There is just so much that never adds up to me.
I don't trust any specific government, i haven't gone to vote...well i only ever voted once frankly. I think government officials do not have the best interest of it's citizens in mind.
but to believe that they are plotting for the collapse of civilization?
I need more than paintings at Dallas airport or drawing of the eye of providence or family names.
Not saying there is no truth behind it at all, could be, but someone has to bring me something real.
As for chemtrails, well of course that is the work of a lone group of people trying to save the world from global warming by providing a barrier against the heat

Thanks for a great thread OP.

I agree with you, most people like to believe the youtube video's they have watched are actual facts rather than opinion!

We STILL DONT KNOW what happened to JFK and we STILL DONT KNOW what happened on 9/11. No proof for it being OBL and no proof it's the "NWO"... depending on which way you look at it, you can say "it points to" this or that but beyound that your just doing what you say the sheeple are doing and believing something without proof!

Obviously we are on a conspiracy site but they are some really, really, really paranoid people on this site!!! They are so closed minded they won't accept anything that disproves their conspiracy. You have to laugh but at the same time it makes you want to cry because the so called "awake" people are in fact often just brainwashed the same as those they like to call "sheeple"!

Like the "sheeple" could say I belive Bush and the "awake" or "truthers" could say "I believe Alex Jones"... how is that any different, it's still beleiving something that hasn't been proven!

I think there's often no evidance because it often doesn't exist but you've got to understand to someone paranoid there's no evidance because "they" removed/stopped/hidden it...

reply to post by IShotMyLastMuse


No one will convince you of anything, (nor should they) until YOU do your own research.
That being said, there is a mountain of documented historical evidence of the origin, individuals, agenda"s, actions and outcomes of the workings of the NWO.
There are many individuals on this site, and else where, who have spent years and years of research into this subject. Long before the internet and youtube came along, I might add.
Those of us who have done much research and understand the historical connections, do speak in perhaps vague terms like TPTB, or "they", to compress the conversation, simply because there is too much information to rehash every time the subject is discussed. Kind of like a "been there, done that " and "I know where you are coming from" response.
For those who have not studied this in any serious manner, I can see why you doubt much of what you see or read, because the (reality] of "their' plans and ultimate agenda are so beyond the realm of accepted human decency that our mind just says "will not compute".

Again I will add this link and defer from trying to convince you.

www.threeworldwars.com...


There are many other sources available, but I'd say this is a good place to begin.

Considering that the state of the civilized world is teetering on the brink of disaster, we all better come up with some answers pretty damn quick. That is why most of us are here on ATS.

Cheers.