Republican Senate Nominee: Victims Of ‘Legitimate Rape’ Don’t Get Pregnant

reply to post by neformore


Yeah, and legitimate victims of gunshots don't die. The body has ways of cauterizing its own bullet holes in the event of it being victimized. If you die from it, you were obviously asking for it.

reply to post by neformore


Not to you, no. Nor to me, as I'm fairly non partisan...not completely, but kinda.

But to others? Some of whom are partaking of this thread as an opportunity to take shots at the "evil, dumb GOP"... They should be encouraged to at least pretend to look at other sides of an issue...

Even the "who's dumber" issue...

This is one guy I wouldn't vote for.

Very irrational.

Originally posted by seagull
Let the stereotyping begin...

Oh, wait, it has...pity.

Yes the comments were outrageously stupid...god yes they were. Certainly worthy of a "WTF did he just say?" moment, or even two. He'd certainly have lost my vote...assuming for a moment I'd have been contemplating voting for him in the first place.

Honestly now... Dems don't say equally stupid things? Really? Honesty should compel some of you to at least pretend to search for living breathing examples of Dem stupidity...

The difference to me is that When Dems say something stupid, it is obvious to everyone it is stupid. When a Republican says something stupid, especially this brand of anti-woman/pseudo-Christian stupid, they win votes.

reply to post by Runningaround


That does happen...which doesn't say much for the native intelligence of some people.

That's a pity, too...

Originally posted by Runningaround

Originally posted by seagull
Let the stereotyping begin...

Oh, wait, it has...pity.

Yes the comments were outrageously stupid...god yes they were. Certainly worthy of a "WTF did he just say?" moment, or even two. He'd certainly have lost my vote...assuming for a moment I'd have been contemplating voting for him in the first place.

Honestly now... Dems don't say equally stupid things? Really? Honesty should compel some of you to at least pretend to search for living breathing examples of Dem stupidity...

The difference to me is that When Dems say something stupid, it is obvious to everyone it is stupid. When a Republican says something stupid, especially this brand of anti-woman/pseudo-Christian stupid, they win votes.

Not to mention that in some red states (Mississippi, for one), it is still a valid and viable platform to say that you want to make interracial marriage illegal.

You are totally correct in that they often benefit for saying these type of things. When Bachmann blamed Swine Flu on Obama... her support actually increased. When a debate moderator declared Rick Perry's state as having executed the most people, people cheered. When O'Reilly said that nobody knows what causes the ocean tide to fluctuate or why the sun goes up and down, religious conservatives become more endeared to him.

I'm not saying that republicans are dumb racist religious extremists but dumb racist religious extremists often tend to be republicans.

Twenty years ago, I used to think that an above normal IQ would find irrational, unreasonable statements, well, irrational and unreasonable. Then, a co-worker with a high intelligence told me that the Earth only appears to be more than 6,000 years old, because God "built in" age. That is what his church taught.

Oh, I guess this goes back further in time, because in the 1980s, he seriously said that AIDS was caused by men having sex with green monkeys, as his church and conservative "family values" organizations had preached.

Recently, another colleague of exceptional intelligence and solid conservative religious beliefs told me a "scientific fact" that didn't make sense, but because he heard it from a conservative news source, he deemed it true.

I'm not saying, but maybe this Republican Senate nominee is really intelligent like the people above, but just believes whatever he's told either by religious, media, or govt authorities.

Take "Republican" out of the agenda for a minute, and ask yourself how an educated man in 2012 can make such a statement.

The guy is no spring chicken - he's obviously been around the block a bit - surely he must realise how crassly stupid and downright offensive what he says is?

Originally posted by Hefficide

extreme evangelical irrationality
ultra conservatism

Scary stuff indeed.

~Heff

To stress an important point... notice the words "extreme" and "ultra". I take no exception to evangelicals nor to conservatives... but add words like "extreme" or "ultra" to just about any personality trait or preference - and things usually end badly.

No donkey or elephant baiting here.

But extremist? That I'll bag on all day long.

~Heff

reply to post by neformore


Crass is one way to phrase it. Hopelessly so.

In a truly just world, he'd have lost whatever chance he ever had of being elected to dog catcher, much less to the Senate of the United States... But, this stupid remark will, for some odd reason, resonate with certain other dim wits out there.

Educated? Seems his education is lacking in certain areas...and damned important ones, too. Like compassion for victims of horrific crimes.

I wonder how paleolithic some of his other notions are? Bears wondering about (not too mention cringing in anticipated horror.), doesn't it?

reply to post by seeker1963


Apparently Rep. Akin is intelligent enough to have earned a degree in 'management engineering' before deciding to become a pastor...or something...by getting a Master of Divinity degree (it's like an associate's degree, but for religion).

A bit about Todd Akin

Akin was born in New York City, the son of Nancy Perry (née Bigelow) and Rev. Paul Bigelow Akin. He moved to St. Louis and attended John Burroughs School. After graduating, he attended the Worcester Polytechnic Institute in Worcester, Massachusetts where he earned a degree in management engineering, and in 1984 he earned a Master of Divinity degree at Covenant Theological Seminary in St. Louis. During college he was member of Phi Gamma Delta fraternity.

In 12 years in the state house, Akin voted for carrying concealed weapons, voted against the parks and soils sales tax, voted against the 1993 tax increase and education spending increase. Akin sponsored legislation to prohibit casino companies from contributing to Missouri state lawmakers. In 1995, he fought Democrat Governor Mel Carnahan on state-funding for abortion, which Akin opposed.

Akin was an outspoken opponent of abortion with no exception for health reasons or in cases of rape or incest. He recently claimed that he believes that rape rarely causes pregnancy. [16] He opposes embryonic stem cell research, is a supporter of the right to keep and bear arms, and is generally opposed to increases in taxation and spending. As a U.S. Representative, he has continued to support these views, earning a 96% rating from the American Conservative Union in 2008, and 100% in 2007. Akin has an A rating from the National Rifle Association.

Akin is a staunch advocate of a federal prohibition of online poker. In 2006, he co-sponsored H.R. 4411, the Goodlatte-Leach Internet Gambling Prohibition Act, and H.R. 4777, the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act

And there's even a couple of memorable other quotes...

Well, I think NBC has a long record of being very liberal, and at the heart of liberalism really is a hatred for God and a belief that government should replace God.... This is a systematic effort to try to separate our faith and God, which is a source in our belief in individual liberties, from our country. And when you do that you tear the heart out of our country

and

Two days later, Akin said in a radio interview there he would not apologize, since he meant that not all liberals hate God, only that liberals have "a hatred for public references for God." The next day, he said:

People who know me and my family know that we take our faith and beliefs very seriously. As Christians, we would never question the sincerity of anyone's personal relationship with God. My statement during my radio interview was directed at the political movement, Liberalism, not at any specific individual. If my statement gave a different impression, I offer my apologies.

Also:

Committee assignments
Committee on Armed Services
Subcommittee on Tactical Air and Land Forces
Subcommittee on Seapower and Expeditionary Forces (Chairman)
Committee on the Budget
Committee on Science, Space and Technology
Subcommittee on Space and Aeronautics
Subcommittee on Energy and Environment

Caucus memberships
Republican Study Committee
Tea Party Caucus

That seems to fit the mold of what I was talking about. A hyper religious drive or agenda, a propensity for war, an exclusionary mindset, and a an apparent need to force his view upon others.

You know... an extremist.

ETA - Got so busy wall of texting that I forgot to source, Apologies all.

~Heff

Originally posted by seagull
Let the stereotyping begin...

Oh, wait, it has...pity.

Yes the comments were outrageously stupid...god yes they were. Certainly worthy of a "WTF did he just say?" moment, or even two. He'd certainly have lost my vote...assuming for a moment I'd have been contemplating voting for him in the first place.

Honestly now... Dems don't say equally stupid things? Really? Honesty should compel some of you to at least pretend to search for living breathing examples of Dem stupidity...

Honestly? No they don't. There's a difference between a gaff and complete and total stupidity. I challenge you find me ONE quote example of any Democrat running for Congress or Senate in the last 20 years or currently occupying one of those elective offices that is even remotely as ignorant as that.

Second, admit it, you and your Right wing friends WILL (if you are residents of Missouri) vote for that guy before you'll vote for a Democrat. For members of the far Right, the good of the country never factors into decision making, only what is good for their insane tribe.

Originally posted by neformore
reply to post by seagull

 

Its not really a party politics thing... when it boils down to it the question is how can someone who comes out with something so crassly stupid actually be in a position where they can run for senate - and who the hell would vote for them?

That's an easy one, in the R primaries, the insane Right dominate the voting, so rational Republicans do not stand a chance of winning a primary. It is even made harder now with Citizens United, which has led people like the Koch brothers to toss millions in the primaries to make sure the dumbest person (i.e. the one they can control the most) gets the most "speech" (money) to run ads. The oligarchs know it is easy to manipulate the religious freaks and the ignorant.

All it takes is a few sound bites and fear tactics -- its been demonstrated to be clear to me at least the members of the Right have indoctrinated out any ability to reason and think independently. And the Christian Right has raised their children for a few decades now to be cognitively impaired. I've seen it in my own family, half of my nieces and nephews have been raised in the hard Right churches. They are sweet kids (college grads mostly at this point) in most ways, but when you start delving into politics, policy or science things get really screwy, really fast. But of course, they smile at you, since they are self-assured that they possess the Truth and the rest of us are just sad, lost souls who do not know Christ.

Never mind that among the other half are "normal" Christians, an atheist and two who do not care enough to have an opinion either way. Its that dangerous, cultish smile worn by people whose sense of superiority is completely subconscious. It is like the average man looking down upon an ant -- he has no real malice for the ant, if he considers it all, but his sense of being "better" is so instilled the question itself could never arise in his mind and consequently, if he kills the ant, intentionally or otherwise there's no reason to have remorse. This is how the Germans could kill so many Jews while in some daily interaction with one of their own, they might be the most generous, loving and pleasant of company.

Originally posted by pajoly
Yes, Right wing America, this is YOUR party's candidate for Senate of the United States of America

This moron is Missouri's candidate, not the other 49 states'.

Here's what's really scary:

As a U.S. Congressman, Todd serves on three committees: Armed Services, Science and Technology and Budget.

Todd Akin Biography

I wonder what kind of science he's involved in that believes the crap he's spewing out.

/TOA

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Whoa there, partner... First off, I'll admit to swinging to the right side of the political spectrum. I make no secret of that...

However, to say I'd vote for this crass little man, before I'd vote democrat is sadly mistaken. I am, however strange it may sound, a conservative democrat...have been for several years now. A rare beast, to be sure, but we're out there.

If you're old enough, you'll remember a gentleman by the name of Henry Jackson, Senator from Washington...or Sam Nunn from Georgia... Liberal on many fronts, and conservative on just as many others. So gently on the tarring and feathering.

reply to post by The Old American


Science and Technology? Really? New ways to build the Ark, maybe?

Seems rather ironic, doesn't it? Since he's merrily cast away science on this issue.

This guy honestly can't keep his pie hole shut! Some more memorable ummmm statements from Todd Akin.


My fave three of the bunch:

I oppose any attempt to grant homosexual unions the same legal privileges that civil government affords to traditional marriage and family life.
Todd Akin


I oppose the attempts of homosexual activists to treat homosexual activity as a civil right to be protected and promoted by the government.
Todd Akin

The Supreme Court and courts in general have been usurping the role of the legislative branch of government.
Todd Akin

Sheesh...

~Heff

Originally posted by neformore
reply to post by seagull

 

Its not really a party politics thing...

It is on this thread? Quite a few ATS members are having trouble separating the person from the party. Rep. Akin isn't the only small-minded loon here.

/TOA

www.physiciansforlife.org...

Take this for what it is worth.

Calling people stupid over it?

That is ones prerogative.