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Do they have a website? I can't find anything on 'them'.
Do they hold mass?
Originally posted by dominicus
Im predicting that soon will happen a news worthy event which will be an atheist commiting a violent act against a person who is not atheist.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by jiggerj
From an atheist point of view, killing someone is the greatest gift you can bestow at this time in our world. Releasing them from the agony of emotion, and the constant pressure of thinking and filtering and behaving and expressing...
To be nothing is to be free. From an atheist perspective, where there is no afterlife, to kill someone is to deliver them to peace. I'm not saying I support this view, I am saying that is how some will see it.
And honestly, anywhere that is not here on Earth is bound to be a bit more peaceful. Nature is the most beautiful thing, and there is an infinite amount of au naturale in the cosmos...edit on 21-8-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by dominicus
Im predicting that soon will happen a news worthy event which will be an atheist commiting a violent act against a person who is not atheist.
Are you saying that an atheist will hold a gun to a religious fanatic's head and challenge him to declare that atheism is right and religion is wrong? I seriously doubt this.
Originally posted by rwfresh
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by dominicus
Im predicting that soon will happen a news worthy event which will be an atheist commiting a violent act against a person who is not atheist.
Are you saying that an atheist will hold a gun to a religious fanatic's head and challenge him to declare that atheism is right and religion is wrong? I seriously doubt this.
It's not as obvious as that. But yes, this has happened and is happening now. A total system of control where freedom of belief is not acceptable. It starts with demonization of traditional religions. Where those religions are painted as the REAL problem with the world. You need only look to Nazi Germany or the Chinese Revolution to see how this plays out. How it comes about world wide is the meme that the world must be controlled by agnostic ideology for the safety of all people. Controls will be put in place and people will resist. The problem is total lack of morals or goodness by those that use this twisted world view as a means to control.
It's not just happening naturally. It's happening because a large group of twisted individuals believe this agnostic ideology SO much they are willing to do anything to ensure it's total domination.
There are more good but fearful people in the world than fanatics. Those good people can be forced to come together in an agnostic authority under a perceived threat. Evil people are used to execute the domination and good people silently comply. Speak out and you are a terrorist or fanatic. This is happening now.
Are atheists bad? No. Just the one's who believe other ideologies need to be eliminated for the world to evolve or be "saved". Diversity is the cornerstone of evolution but the religion of science believes in total domination with 1 survivor. Science tells us that lack of diversity is death, an evolutionary dead-end.
Originally posted by jiggerj
Sorry, that isn't the issue I was addressing.
It's not as obvious as that. But yes, this has happened and is happening now. A total system of control where freedom of belief is not acceptable. It starts with demonization of traditional religions. Where those religions are painted as the REAL problem with the world. You need only look to Nazi Germany or the Chinese Revolution to see how this plays out. How it comes about world wide is the meme that the world must be controlled by agnostic ideology for the safety of all people. Controls will be put in place and people will resist. The problem is total lack of morals or goodness by those that use this twisted world view as a means to control.
It's not just happening naturally. It's happening because a large group of twisted individuals believe this agnostic ideology SO much they are willing to do anything to ensure it's total domination.
There are more good but fearful people in the world than fanatics. Those good people can be forced to come together in an agnostic authority under a perceived threat. Evil people are used to execute the domination and good people silently comply. Speak out and you are a terrorist or fanatic. This is happening now.
Are atheists bad? No. Just the one's who believe other ideologies need to be eliminated for the world to evolve or be "saved". Diversity is the cornerstone of evolution but the religion of science believes in total domination with 1 survivor. Science tells us that lack of diversity is death, an evolutionary dead-end.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by rwfresh
In fact, the United Nations specifically promotes freedom of religious expression, and passes (impotently) resolution against the persecution of religious minorities. Both Nazism and Maoism were, formally, state religions.
Do you have any evidence to support this belief?
Can you provide a specific example?
Although there may be individuals who believe as you claim they do, I think this is an aberration rather than a widespread attitude. I suspect much of this thread has been psychological projection on your part.
Originally posted by dominicus
Im predicting that soon will happen a news worthy event which will be an atheist commiting a violent act against a person who is not atheist.
Originally posted by rwfresh
I can't be bothered because I've already read the bottom of this message where you declare your belief that it's all a crazy projection of mine hahaha. But i guess that could be an example no?
Originally posted by rwfresh
It's not just happening naturally. It's happening because a large group of twisted individuals believe this agnostic ideology SO much they are willing to do anything to ensure it's total domination..
Are atheists bad? No. Just the one's who believe other ideologies need to be eliminated for the world to evolve or be "saved". Diversity is the cornerstone of evolution but the religion of science believes in total domination with 1 survivor. Science tells us that lack of diversity is death, an evolutionary dead-end.
Originally posted by CaptChaos
OK, here's couple for you sciencey religionists:
Why is the Sun's corona far hotter than the Sun itself? Good luck explaining that one. This proves that the THEORIES about the Sun being a ball of nuclear fusion are totally wrong.
On what do you base your idea of the Big Bang? Where does that nonsense come from? Redshift? Explain, "scientists":.
Black holes? A theoretical object which has never been observed. Gravity so strong nothing, not even light, can escape it. Except when sometimes it shoots stuff out for thousands of lightyears. Explain.
Originally posted by chr0naut
Scientists have several mechanisms by which the Corona, above the surface of the Sun, is hotter than the layers immediately underneath it. Firstly, the core of the Sun is believed to be far hotter (somewhere in the region of 15 million degrees Kelvin) and this is due to the fusion energies, compressional force, friction and possibly also electrodynamics. As you go out from the core, the temperature drops as the pressure drops to the point of it reaching as low as 5,700 degrees Kelvin. Then, above the surface of the Sun is an area that is almost invisible but paradoxically, the temperature rises again to about 1-2 million degrees Kelvin. The actual heat output of the Sun, averaged by volume is a quite low 0.032 Watts per cubic meter. For comparison, the human body puts out about 1400 Watts per cubic meter, but the Sun is so huge, the cumulative output creates a lot of heat. Most of the Sun is actually opaque and so much of the heat remains trapped and insulated from adjacent areas below its photosphere (visible surface). The higher temperature of the Corona (the invisible layer above the visible surface of the Sun) is thought to be largely hotter due to the completion of the ionization process of Helium that occurs in that region. This causes the area to be thermally insulative, but transparent, which concentrates the radiated heat from the Sun and holds it in place. The greenhouse effect on Earth concentrates heat by similar principles. This Corona is also very turbulent and very variable in temperature and this is because as an ionised plasma, it is highly driven by the unstable magnetic fields at the surface of the Sun. The magnetic reconnection forces (part of the sunspot/solar flare/CME process) adds significant heat to this outer layer.
The idea for the Big Bang was initially suggested from the red-shift that Edwin Hubble had initially observed and noted but there are now many significant observations independent of red-shift, that point to the universe being a singularity, sometime close to 14.2 billion years ago. Probably the most significant (but not the only proof) is the observations of the cosmic background at microwave frequencies gathered by the Wilson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP). This showed that the evenness of energy of the background of space indicated that places now vastly distant were once in contact and therefore the universe must have expanded away from its initial state.
Finally, although we cannot directly observe black holes, we are able to see phenomena that is conformant to that theoretical idea and cannot be explained by other known processes. As you noted in your post, something is shooting out matter (or x-rays & gamma rays) in a way not explainable otherwise. The primary way that we identify the location of a black hole is that we seen significant gravitational effects but cannot see the significant mass that must be causing it. Another way is from the x-rays and gamma rays that occur due to the tidal stretching of matter that occurs near, but outside of the event horizon (some of which may be Hawking radiation). We cannot 'see' the wind or radio waves but that doesn't stop us from knowing that they exist physically.
Science has no answers that are not unshakeable by new ideas and evidence. Science is a process of working to improve what we know, by increments. In most cases, science builds on previous ideas and does not actually disprove them, but instead completes our understanding.
To a certain extent science is the process by which we test paradigms, judging if they are true (as far as we can tell). There are similar explorations in both philosophy, religion or just about anywhere you may employ the mind.
In no case is our knowledge complete or perfect.
edit on 21/8/2012 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by DJW001
Objective observation and analysis is the best way to determine whether an action is effective.