Have any ufos ever been found?

For me I just think if these people/aliens/others can master intersteller travel, avoid all the cosmic junk at speeds we can't fathom I just find it hard to think that without being interfered with by us it's highly unlikely they would crash. But then again error happens all the time, mistakes happen but just think they would have a pretty good guidence system. Just my thoughts on your question.

SaneThinking

Originally posted by Blue Shift

Originally posted by Rubicant13
Have any ufos ever been unearthed or found crashed by the everyday, non military person with proof in the history of ufo sightings?

No. There have been plenty of stories floating around for years, but nobody has ever been able to prove anything ever about UFOs ever. Never.

I think I'd agree that most accounts of "crashed UFOs" remain unproven - and unlikely will remain unproven.
With Roswell, there is just too much conflicting testimony and we really have no proof it was a "flying" anything. All we know is that something was found.

But I think the Kecksburg incident might have the most evidence of a "crashed UFO", and when I say "UFO", I mean Unidentified Flying Object, certainly not necessarily a "crashed ET spacecraft". There is some suggestion that the Kecksburg object was possibly a Soviet made space capsule of some sort. In any case, I think there is quite a bit of evidence that something unknown crashed and it was recovered by the US army.

Originally posted by SaneThinking
For me I just think if these people/aliens/others can master intersteller travel, avoid all the cosmic junk at speeds we can't fathom I just find it hard to think that without being interfered with by us it's highly unlikely they would crash. But then again error happens all the time, mistakes happen but just think they would have a pretty good guidence system. Just my thoughts on your question.

SaneThinking

I agree. I also think that if an ET manufactured "spacecraft" did crash, they would probably have the ability to recover their craft, before the US Army or Air Force would get on the scene.The only exception might be a "staged event", although I would wonder why they would do such a thing, if they intended to remain mostly hidden in the background (as is implied if they are out there).

Hey!

We are already moving through space around 2.7 million miles per hour. We were born on a spaceship
Solar systems are true spaceships made for interstellar travel!... LITERALLY!

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LOLS
I really like that
Yup , and when you actually think about it you are right in a way.
If I have learned anything in all the years of being interested in these subjects ..........and a gazillion hours of any kind of radio shows that I can find out there..........it is this:

Truth is stranger than fiction , and anything is possible.

Dr. Enrique Caretenuto Botta

Allegedly came across a crashed UFO whilst driving in Bahia Blanca, Argentina in 1950 at the side of a road. With nothing appearing to move he approached the UFO and let his curiosity get the better of him. He stopped got out and and entered an opening in the side of the object. The room was full of screens, lights and instruments and 4 small chairs. Three of the seats were occupied by small beings in jump suit type clothing that all appeared dead.

He then fled in fear and returned with two of his colleagues to find the object gone. However they did see scorch marks on the ground and UFOs in the sky above them.

If you want more in depth details do a net search.

Originally posted by Rubicant13
reply to post by Unity_99

 

It's like the 1891 Aurora Texas sighting. Supposedly there is an alien buried in a cemetery there, but the town's historical society fights anyone who tries to exhume the possible remains. It would only be the greatest find in the history of time, but they don't want it disturbed out of "respect" to the cemetery. There is not anything worse than possibly finding undisputable proof and being roadblocked from getting to it.

If Jamie Maussan is willing to pay $300,000 for a skinned monkey caught in a trap being billed as an alien, then, I wonder how much he might pay to grease the wheels of local politics in Aurora, TX to let him exhume the supposed alien body?

Of course, anything uncovered by Maussaun, regardless of what it actually is would be sensationalized and billed as an actual alien, even if in all reality it was just a regular Homo Sapien terrestrial human body.

JM, could, however, with injected third party support peering over his shoulder, be a vehicle for finding out what's there, if only he could be manipulated, convinced, or instigated into thinking it'd be worthwhile and worth the cost and time to go dig up an unknown, "reported" alien body burial.

Aurora city officials might be more open to an exhumation if some spare change fell into their pockets. No one necessarily enjoys doing something out of the way without benefit coming their way.

Appealing to their sense of mystery hasn't worked. Appealing to their sense of greed, or profit, may.

Since most UFOs are mind-link craft from Earth's future, even if one crashes another ship can be sent from the future to either prevent the crash before it happens or clean it up so there's no useful evidence left of it. A lot of unprovable stories told by Roswell residents are actually ghost memories of previous timelines that were cancelled out by later recovery expeditions.

It's the only thing that can explain the essentially perfect record of no proof ever being found or verified.

I concur with most everyone else on this thread. A crashed saucer is likely to be covered up and put into top secret clearance. What we do know is quickly subverted and hidden.

I find the UFO flap of the late 40's - 50's to be of the most interest. After all, we just broke the atom and created WMD. If they are watching, it coincides in a time of history when they would be showing up to check out what the heck we are thinking, much less, doing.

I'm more interested in not when they crash, but when they land or slide into our visual range. We have numerous sightings where people have actually investigated landed saucers and received burns and even symptoms of radiation sickness. There is also no continuation of creature details! Often, they are varied and very very different from each other. Which is strange in itself.

I think that cases with trace signs are significant in creating a body of evidence that will legitimize a true investigation of the phenomenon. I don't believe it's nothing, and I certainly don't believe it's mis - identification of natural phenomenon in all instances.

Originally posted by Blue Shift
Since most UFOs are mind-link craft from Earth's future, even if one crashes another ship can be sent from the future to either prevent the crash before it happens or clean it up so there's no useful evidence left of it. A lot of unprovable stories told by Roswell residents are actually ghost memories of previous timelines that were cancelled out by later recovery expeditions.

It's the only thing that can explain the essentially perfect record of no proof ever being found or verified.

There does seem to be a curious mix of memories in relation to Roswell (and some other UFO events).

Did you ever see that 1989 movie Millenium, where people from the future abduct people from present time from airplanes that are about to crash?

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Haven't seen you around for a bit.... I think you're still hot.

Originally posted by Druscilla

Originally posted by Rubicant13
reply to post by Unity_99

 

It's like the 1891 Aurora Texas sighting. Supposedly there is an alien buried in a cemetery there, but the town's historical society fights anyone who tries to exhume the possible remains. It would only be the greatest find in the history of time, but they don't want it disturbed out of "respect" to the cemetery. There is not anything worse than possibly finding undisputable proof and being roadblocked from getting to it.

If Jamie Maussan is willing to pay $300,000 for a skinned monkey caught in a trap being billed as an alien, then, I wonder how much he might pay to grease the wheels of local politics in Aurora, TX to let him exhume the supposed alien body?

Of course, anything uncovered by Maussaun, regardless of what it actually is would be sensationalized and billed as an actual alien, even if in all reality it was just a regular Homo Sapien terrestrial human body.

JM, could, however, with injected third party support peering over his shoulder, be a vehicle for finding out what's there, if only he could be manipulated, convinced, or instigated into thinking it'd be worthwhile and worth the cost and time to go dig up an unknown, "reported" alien body burial.

Aurora city officials might be more open to an exhumation if some spare change fell into their pockets. No one necessarily enjoys doing something out of the way without benefit coming their way.

Appealing to their sense of mystery hasn't worked. Appealing to their sense of greed, or profit, may.

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I wonder if having an alien body burried in thier town generates any tourism money? kind of a good balance right now of a local legend....mysterious enough to bring some in...but dont want to disturb the peace with a JM sensational story. don't want to dig it up to ruin the legend....i bet in the town hall meetings the vote is to just leave it alone.

Originally posted by Druscilla

Originally posted by Rubicant13
reply to post by Unity_99

 

It's like the 1891 Aurora Texas sighting. Supposedly there is an alien buried in a cemetery there, but the town's historical society fights anyone who tries to exhume the possible remains. It would only be the greatest find in the history of time, but they don't want it disturbed out of "respect" to the cemetery. There is not anything worse than possibly finding undisputable proof and being roadblocked from getting to it.

If Jamie Maussan is willing to pay $300,000 for a skinned monkey caught in a trap being billed as an alien, then, I wonder how much he might pay to grease the wheels of local politics in Aurora, TX to let him exhume the supposed alien body?

Of course, anything uncovered by Maussaun, regardless of what it actually is would be sensationalized and billed as an actual alien, even if in all reality it was just a regular Homo Sapien terrestrial human body.

JM, could, however, with injected third party support peering over his shoulder, be a vehicle for finding out what's there, if only he could be manipulated, convinced, or instigated into thinking it'd be worthwhile and worth the cost and time to go dig up an unknown, "reported" alien body burial.

Aurora city officials might be more open to an exhumation if some spare change fell into their pockets. No one necessarily enjoys doing something out of the way without benefit coming their way.

Appealing to their sense of mystery hasn't worked. Appealing to their sense of greed, or profit, may.

edit on 14-8-2012 by Druscilla because: (no reason given)

JM is usually in town giving his seminars. I may have to sit down with him and find out more info in regards wether he actually has any information of a REAL alien body found. I have my doubts about him sometimes, but I like his persistence in getting the truth out there....

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Believe me, this kind of pressure by anyone high profile, even Jamie Maussan would be needed. It's only a possible answer to a mystery that would blow the lid off of the alien existence question.

If they were found it would be a government secret and not released to the public.

Apparently. there have been a lot....

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All in all, regarding Aurora, TX; all the years there's been stories about an alien buried there, and all the generations of kids and teenagers growing up locally, I wouldn't doubt some group of curious locals have by now put themselves to industry with some shovels in taking a look.

It may even be a local town tradition for kids of each generation to go dig up the alien.

Stranger things have happened.

Thus, if such is even a possibility, that would increase the chances of there being nothing there at all to be found what with former teens growing up, getting older, getting responsible and making choices that ruin the adventures of any future generations of teens by possibly moving the body to an undisclosed location and forgetting about it, and/or replacing it with either a human cadaver, or some mock-up pretend scary alien designed to frighten curious generations of teens taking part in local tradition.

That is, of course, entirely speculation.
It's speculation in the respect that if I grew up in Aurora, the troublemaker I was as a teen, that thing would have been dug up by now.
Still, it's speculation.