Porn/playboy ECT

I know this kid... I'm a leader, and I met him today
he's mexican he wore these dickies material but it wasn't dickies
and it was all black and he had a white shirt that said I'm not wearing
boxers, he wrote that on with a black marker.
he had black hair, handsome guy and on his hand it said "porn" on it underlined three times, and he told me that he was BI.

anyways.
he was talking to me and he said that's what kind of job he wants.
to be in porn movies I guess, he said he LOVED sex.
he was only a kid... looked 13 or so. really sad....
I really care about this guy, and I don't know if he really has anyone in his life that loves him....

but gosh, ...I hate porn... I really do.
people think that kids don't see that stuff, and it "taints" there mind.
and these girls that are in it, not only the girls the men. They just sell themselves like that.
doesn't anyone care about these people....
But I think if porn never exsisted, what difference would it have on this
13 year old boy, and the world.

sex if fine, whatever but do it privatly... no one wants to see that,
well if you do....find some man/woman, and do it somewhere
if you can't find someone then just... find something else that brings you pleasure
like... I don't know, but something else.

but why do we have it like this?....why?
am I the only one who thinks it .......sick and wrong? :shk:



[Edited on 11-10-2004 by regnassem]

Well when the kid becomes an adult and he still wants to do porn then hey, who cares. Let him do porn if that's what he wants to do with his life. Why should I care. I could think of worse things he could do like become drug dealer or something. At least he'll make a living doing something he likes.

Just because it offends you doesnt mean that it shouldn't be there... there are lots of things that offend me because of the message they give to people and the people they exploit... heres some examples...

-Reality TV: it offends me severly that people will go on TV just a few munites of fame... It also offends me that the TV networks make a killing from these shows but dont have to put as much money into them than a show with paid actors... People are led to believe these shows are 'reality' when really, when you know your on camera you will act differently...

-Organised Religion: Offends me because it brainwashes people and dictates how they should live their lives. It takes advantage of humans fear of the unknown to scare people into acting certain ways to avoid punishment in the afterlife...

-Society: Offends me because it exploits people into living boring, mundane lives where excitement and adventure either cost too much or are illegal, we are taught to live, not to survive, but to compete against each other and to tread on everyone else to get to the top...

There these things offend me more than anything else. Theres more, bu these are the ones i tolerate as i know that others dont feel the same and in the end... each to their own...

I pity the small boy who has religion pushed down his throat, i pity the fool who goes on national TV to win some mundane prize, i pity myself and everyone for being part of a society of hate and comptetition, than one of sharing and love... just as you pity porn star boy... but i wont try to change them, they made their choice. I may debate with them, but in the end i respect their opinions and their decisions enough not to push my values down their throats.

Each to their own, and dont judge others for their own, but judge yourself for yours.

Heres my rant about porn: its not classy anymore. nayone here seen Newton's Illustrated? beautiful! compare it to the latest issue of maxim or blender? raunchy!

Less crass, more class!

You ask what the world would be like if porn never existed, but that depends on your view of porn. Naked women in provocative poses? Well then, let's just rip out Picasso from history. Lets get rid of Duchamp's "nude descending a staircase." (the greatest cubist piece of all time) , lets get rid of keith harring.

To one it is art, to the next it is disgrace, and to the next it is sick pleasure.

I think many could say the same about sex in general. I think many could say the same about love.

Now, I'll get off of my poetic soapbox.

OK. Here's my opinion. Porn? Great, its a booming business and these people have got the goods! You want to know whats tainting our minds?

Go look in Teen People. Go look in Seventeen. There's your disgrace, there's your lack of respect for the beauty of human beings. There's the slaughtered innocence of man.

The human body is taboo, but the glorification of violence is wholesum.

I will never understand this twisted society.:shk:

Heh..when I was a 13 yr. old boy going thru puberty, I wanted to be a pornstar too. This is not uncommon at all for horndog teen boys, trust me. How quick we forget what its like to be that age, with the raging hormones and all.

Originally posted by specialasianX
Each to their own, and dont judge others for their own, but judge yourself for yours.

I'm not judging anyone X, I was just saying how sad it was that we have
stuff like that.
and if anyone else agrees....so cool it dude. ~.^
yeah... reality tv is kind of cheap too. Except for pimp my ride
that's kind of kool, very creative guys.

Originally posted by regnassem

Originally posted by specialasianX
Each to their own, and dont judge others for their own, but judge yourself for yours.

I'm not judging anyone X, I was just saying how sad it was that we have

But by judging porn you judge those who view it or enjoy it.... I dont think its sad that theres porn... its an industry which gives jobs to people who are doing what they like to do... I'm quite happy theres porn actually

Originally posted by specialasianX

Originally posted by regnassem

Originally posted by specialasianX
Each to their own, and dont judge others for their own, but judge yourself for yours.

I'm not judging anyone X, I was just saying how sad it was that we have

But by judging porn you judge those who view it or enjoy it.... I dont think its sad that theres porn... its an industry which gives jobs to people who are doing what they like to do... I'm quite happy theres porn actually

I guess you're right, I am judging.
Though I don't think kids should be watching it at all, and it gives very....gross thoughts, and even so adults buy it, kids can get to it, so I just think they should take it all away automatically.
I don't really understand why your "quite happy" about porn either....you didn't really explain... were you happy because people were happy doing things they loved....okay.
I'm happy about chefs, they cook great food and I love eating it, he loves what he does I love what he does... I get it, okay.

Anyways

you know there is billions of things all over the world that people can do
and choosing this out of billions of things... I just think its uneccecary.

but you know what, this is all my opinion... and if you guys fill differently
and almost everyone does fill differently then fine... i'm just saying...

Originally posted by ArtStarr
You ask what the world would be like if porn never existed, but that depends on your view of porn. Naked women in provocative poses? Well then, let's just rip out Picasso from history. Lets get rid of Duchamp's "nude descending a staircase."

Excuse me ...honey...
but that is not what I think of porn to be.
yes I've seen it before, when I was younger, when I was living in these
broke down buildings, were tiny artclipps of porn came in small books.
Don't know where they came from, but yeah I seen it, yeah I watched
one with a friend, i'm not proud of it, really trying not to remember it.
You know why because images stick with you, they do,
like any memory.

Back then it was art and it was paintings, it was different.
because it was beautiful.
but okay we know how it looks now, we have seen it, we don't need
it anymore... we saw the art...okay fine it's over now, but jeez...
its like making 10 movies of
Lord of the rings, they're killing the beauty.
I actually thought Lord of the Rings was..... an okay movie...
but many people seem to think of it like this...masterpeice or whatever
not the point though

but if I ever had kids I would not want them to see that kind of stuff.

Well regnassem,

Keep in mind i'm not holding your opinion against you, i know alot of people who dont like porn...

But i first saw porn at 9, and i've looked at it alot since then (sometimes a little more regurlary than others)... I've turned out perfectly ok in my books... I have a healthy sexual appetite and a healthy sex life... Porn is just a release for when theres no real sex around... its something guys (and some girls) enjoy watching... I would be completely different now if i hadn't looked at porn alot in my youth... admittedly not everyone is as easily accepting of it, but i dont blame the porn for this, but the social taboos put in place thatsay sexual acts are bad... if kids werent told this all the time, then porn wouldnt be so disturbing to them...

Originally posted by regnassem
Though I don't think kids should be watching it at all, and it gives very....gross thoughts

Perhaps we can agree that there should be an age restriction on it but "gross thoughts"??? Without those "gross thoughts" you would not be here today. How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

Originally posted by Jonna

Originally posted by regnassem
Though I don't think kids should be watching it at all, and it gives very....gross thoughts

Perhaps we can agree that there should be an age restriction on it but "gross thoughts"??? Without those "gross thoughts" you would not be here today. How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

sorry, don't really like to give out personal information...

I meant "gross thoughts" in a way where in everyday life as you do things
any thing, talking to people, work, whatever. Why would you want to be
thinking about... stuff like sex.
hehe..
not saying everyday you're talking to someone you're like....
..*sex.....*
haha
but then again, people who have never seen it or
don't really know about it would probably think about it more....

THAT IS WHY

....i'm never having children lol
no...
I think in seventh or eighth grade or so they show you this video...
I remember perfectly well I was absent that day.... but I seen it before
so I don't think I missed anything.

Regnassem,

If someone is thinking about sex 24/7 and when they're talking to other people, its not the porn, they're just horny and with or without pron, they'd be thinking the same things.... i have watched alot of porn in my time (i've slowed down now i'm older and can get real chicks a little easier) and i started young. But i dont think there was ever a time when i was talking to someone and just thinking about porn (unless that someone was someone i wanted to #... then tis different coz thats just normal)...

I still dont see your point against porn, but if you dont like it... dont watch it

Originally posted by specialasianX
Regnassem,

If someone is thinking about sex 24/7 and when they're talking to other people, its not the porn, they're just horny and with or without pron, they'd be thinking the same things.... i have watched alot of porn in my time (i've slowed down now i'm older and can get real chicks a little easier) and i started young. But i dont think there was ever a time when i was talking to someone and just thinking about porn (unless that someone was someone i wanted to #... then tis different coz thats just normal)...

I still dont see your point against porn, but if you dont like it... dont watch it

yea yea, I understand man. I guess I just care to much for people
seeing how they put there self in porn and magazines, or any of that stuff
but if it is what they like to do, then whatever, I guess I just wish the
best for people.
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I tried.... got nothing. My eyes are burning my nose is hurting...
I have to sleep
......but I won't

Originally posted by regnassem

Originally posted by ArtStarr
You ask what the world would be like if porn never existed, but that depends on your view of porn. Naked women in provocative poses? Well then, let's just rip out Picasso from history. Lets get rid of Duchamp's "nude descending a staircase."

Excuse me ...honey...
but that is not what I think of porn to be.

Back then it was art and it was paintings, it was different.
because it was beautiful.
but okay we know how it looks now, we have seen it, we don't need
it anymore... we saw the art...okay fine it's over now, but jeez...

That's what I meant, as X said, to each his own. Your view of porn may not be my view. In the very beginning of my post, I even said "less crass, more class!" I wish "porn" was an art form again, and some of it is.

Pornography is not a one way ticket to hell. Not everyone who looks at it is a sinner.

And vice versa. not everyone who doesn't look at it is holy.

Beauty is so intangible, when I say the word, everyone reading this will have a different picture in theirminds. The same when I say sleezy

dictionary.com

"Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal."

Wordnet

"(creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire)"

Holy S@#t!!! I guess every music video I've seen in a while is pornography then.
Goddamit!!! Britney? Christina? Madonna? They must be the most well paid porn stars ever, because their videos certainly don't have artistic merit and are definately meant to stimulate sexual desire.

I think you should buck up your ideas about what pornography is, because from this definition it's everywhere.

Since when did having sexual desires become a bad thing? This is all down to personal preference really, the bottom line is that there are certain kinds of porn that people find offensive, but they find ways to get off in their own way. What one person gets off on someone else does not, but at the end of the day everyone wants to get off and it's not a bad thing. How do we know this? We're here...
It's human nature folks. Just because your idea of getting off seems "cleaner" than others, it doesn't make it any better. It's the same goal at the end of the day. Just ignore the kind of porn that doesn't get you off but make no mistake about it, there's always going to be something to cause sexual arousal because that's what people want, it's our purpose
If there are certain "sick" desires that people want to see or forfill, they'll find it, and it's not because they saw it in porn first it's because the demand to see it is.

"Do you want to know what causes sexual arousal? Having a dick...or a vagina if...you know..."
- the late, great Bill Hicks

raging hormones don't mix well with an argument about porn. But think about it u are a 13? year old boy and u've been told porn is bad blalh blah blah. One proven point in life is if ur told not to do something the desire inside of u to try this is elevated many times. I remember when i first did porn... i felt bad and that made me feel mature. I also remember smoking for the first time. It was a cigar and i felt daring and all those things u know what im talking about i know it. Smoking isn't unbelievable like an orgasm of feelings its not special u just have to try it.

dont you ever.....EVER! talk bad about porn.