Unexplainable terror, towards White/Gray ET.

Okay guys, I have a handful of questions for you all. I'm all for any and all thoughts, opinions, and feelings involving what I have to say.

I have for as long as I can remember had an overwhelming, unexplainable fright of Gray, or white Alien figures we are all familiar with. I'm seen tons of pictures, videos, and descriptions of these figures, and the majority of them, real or fake terrify me. Not for conventional, hollywood means. I'm not scared of being abducted and experimented on, or strange night invasions where implants, or genetic material is harvested. Hell, if they wanted some genetic material and were willing to tell me, explain. I'd say yeah buddy sure.

How ever, the whole mystery, lack of knowledge, and fanatical claims don't fly with me, I don't typically bite abduction stories, Gray/white encounters, how ever I do know deep down I have an imprinted fear of the entire idea. It's so bad it makes my whole body pulse, and I'm certain if one did waltz in to ask me if I would be willing. I would freeze in terror, and become unreasonably Irrate. I actually believe I would react much better to the supposed Reptilian aliens, or other humanoid/non humanoid ET life. I would react as any human would experiencing something new. Curious, reserves, cautious, but sensible. I don't know what it is about the idea or concept of Gray/white ET humanoids that scares the sense right out of me,

Anyone else share this? Any idea why? I'm pretty calm and collect for the most part but even talking about this urks me ha ha.

I figure this could lead to interesting discussion what with all the people and their 2012 psychosis(which I don't share. It's another year, and it will likely pass just as any other.)

reply to post by Ilyich


I think it is pretty sad that you let something totally fake scare you like this. If you said you were scared of getting cancer, of spiders or getting eaten by a shark i would understand, but this really shows how pseudoscience ocus pocus bogus information can affect people in a negative way.

For a time, I've been fascinated, yet terrified by them. I'd be so scared, I'd sleep with the lights on so they couldnt sneak up on me.
Within the last year, the fear disappeared, and wouldnt mind meeting one.

reply to post by CompisMentis


aaand thats your opinion.

Originally posted by HomerinNC
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aaand thats your opinion.

yes it is. he asked us what we think. that is what i think.

Amen, you preach it brother~

Inexplicably I feel that very same fear when I think about a grey.
Although I chalk that up as a remnant of childhood fears, its still a fear nonetheless.

As a boy, I think I caught an 'alien abductions' episode on t.v.
That must've done me in....

Why do you think you have your fear?
You must have some sort of working theory by now?

me and my friends first saw the Show "Sightings" while at a sleep over in elementary, I remember the room we stayed in had these huge panel windows like a sun room to his back yard.

Ever since than I have always been weirded out by the grays portrayed in UFO shows , wont say scared, just give me the creeps.

Soon someone will come along and suggest you ARE an abductee....of the "sleeping "variety."
There are those who claim that more than 75% of the people of earth are abducted once or more in a lifetime, the memory is not that east to come to the surface...the emotion however is a different type of imprint than your memory.
Thus you do not conscoiusly remember anything but are possessed of an irrational fear that you associate with the "grey Aliens"
Sort of a reverse Vallee type scenario.....
Any hooo, you are just another victim among billions....dont get your nickers twisted over it.

reply to post by Ilyich
I've been afraid of them ever since I was a young kid and watched the movie Communion - That creepy alien peeking around the corner did it for me.

Some years ago, while at home alone one night, I looked through a partially draped window in the kitchen leading to the backyard, and staring right back at me was a grey alien face. It scared me to such a degree that I froze in place and could only muster a "No!" in such a deep tone of voice that I couldn't replicate it if I had to today. I was terrified.

Then I realized it was reflection of a knot in the drapery. Lesson learned: If you fear something, and look for that which you fear, you will find it.

I suspect, regardless of whether grey aliens exist or not, that our fear of them is a primal one that goes pretty deep, and very far back in time. In fact I suspect the standard image of gray aliens has been invented by that primal fear within our minds and revised over time. I keep in mind though that we don't know for certain whether they exist or not.

A fear of a creature more evolved than you that can see into you, where you cannot see into it. That can control you, where you have no control of yourself and especially not of it. I think it's natural, and also that abductions are an in-the-mind experience only for some.

It's just a shame it's all in your head?

No one has documented said Alien types, so therefore we can only assume they are made up?

You know, a bit like Jesus.................black, white, short hair, long hair or even just plain old Santa Claus.

I a firm believer there is something out there, but I can only guess what "they" look like.

To be afraid of something I haven't seen yet..........Hmmm you have issues?

reply to post by Ilyich

Honestly, aboriginal cave paintings scare me more than ANY depiction of greys. I don't know why, I guess it's just me.
But they (the greys) don't scare me anymore. But it took me a good year or two to get over them (I was in the 6th grade when I saw my 1st grey alien photo). My brain turned into mush back then!

But I have a question, does it bug you to click on the aliens and UFO forum to always see that menacing looking grey alien icon beside the forum title???

I greatly appreciate the warm replies, even the one about psudoscience oogy boogery.

I don't know why I do, it's the only conceptualized, perpetuated ET that does this for me. Whether or not I believe Grays exist, until I see it for myself( surely hope this doesn't happen today, tomorrow or a week from now) I can't say.

I absolutely, 100% believe there is life through out the universe, both lesser and more advanced than we here on Earth. Whether or not I believe they have been to earth I do not know. I for one think a race as advanced as necessary to travel the universe with Ease, and traverse the distance between their home, and our home wouldn't be so clumsy as to get caught.

I can't help but look at what we think is advanced, and think of how mind blowing their technology would be. We can learn everything we want to know about a person, even go as far as use a mosquito sized robot to harvest DNA or get an up close collection of audio or video information. Why would an alien wanting to learn anything about us get caught. It almost seems foolish to see an in the flesh alien with out them knowing to a twitch and bodily function how we are going to react to that situation. If an alien wanted to interact with us, I'm sure they would try to make the situation one as easy as possible for both sides. Given they may not understand everything about us, I'm sure they could take a gander over the planes of africa, the outback of australia or mountains of canada and witness a human being interacting with a foreign or potentially dangerous creature. As well, if they came here, I'm sure they've gone else where and understand the potential diversity of life in the universe.

I remain curious, skeptical, and accepting all at the same time. I don't know whether or not grey's exist, and who am I, or you to say they don't. My fear is irrational yes, and perhaps manufactured by media, but I can't figure it out. It's not the way they look because at times, they look quite comical, and I've seen far worse that's natural to this planet. I've overcome the fear of pretty much any horror movie angle produced yet the idea of Alien Grays is just different. I've heard the whole, Primal fear, embedded in all of us. Perhaps this is the case, and in most situations I feel more compelled to investigate than shy away from something I don't know. For instance a bump in the night does not lead to me arming myself and looking for a threat, but getting a flashlight and finding out what the bump was. So this is why I don't understand the fear. Why? I've tried to look into it here and there, but it's hard to discern truth from stories, fact from hoax. As well, if life is diverse as it should well be how can any one or more of these instances be a gray. If a gray showed up here, and our reaction was to freak out would they try again or not?

Originally posted by CaptainBeno
It's just a shame it's all in your head?

No one has documented said Alien types, so therefore we can only assume they are made up?

Well, FYI, this guy DID document the different alien types he encountered while having OBEs:
www.engelkommunikation.net...

You can read all his experiences on my thread beginning on page 41, and continuing through the next 10 or 15 pages.
My thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by Ilyich


Most of us think we know who we are by using conventional, consensus reasoning. But sometimes that misses the mark. As some joker quite wrongly referred to ETs/UFOs as pseudo-science when it is really reality based, we can get mixed up as to what is real, imagined or self-protective (cognitive dissidence).

I will brief state why you should wonder if there is some real basis to your seemingly baseless horror over some forms of ETs. I had a time-loss experience in 1964 that I absolutely knew at the time it happened that something was wrong but I couldn't "work" with the situation. I knew the beginning and ending of and the fact that a block of time, about two hours, was missing in between. Yet it was a full ten years later before I was able to piece together the details as I returned to that area and retraced my actions that night.

In an abduction case it seems standard procedure that the abductee is given instructions to not remember the incident. Yet understandably few events are as traumatic to a human life. Hypnosis is a powerful tool that the ETs use with perfection (and is vastly under-rated in human cultures). The answer is as simple as that.

I merely suggest that you search your mind for some early incident in your life that may have given you a reason for this fear. Yes, it may have been simply a TV show or it may have been the same thing that has happened to a large number of people, each of who go on to deal with the experience in their own way.

Maybe this thread should be moved to the metaphysics forum.....?

Originally posted by Sek82
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I've been afraid of them ever since I was a young kid and watched the movie Communion - That creepy alien peeking around the corner did it for me.

Some years ago, while at home alone one night, I looked through a partially draped window in the kitchen leading to the backyard, and staring right back at me was a grey alien face. It scared me to such a degree that I froze in place and could only muster a "No!" in such a deep tone of voice that I couldn't replicate it if I had to today. I was terrified.

Then I realized it was reflection of a knot in the drapery. Lesson learned: If you fear something, and look for that which you fear, you will find it.

I suspect, regardless of whether grey aliens exist or not, that our fear of them is a primal one that goes pretty deep, and very far back in time. In fact I suspect the standard image of gray aliens has been invented by that primal fear within our minds and revised over time. I keep in mind though that we don't know for certain whether they exist or not.

A fear of a creature more evolved than you that can see into you, where you cannot see into it. That can control you, where you have no control of yourself and especially not of it. I think it's natural, and also that abductions are an in-the-mind experience only for some.

edit on 30-7-2012 by Sek82 because: gray, grey, whatever

Me too!!! I saw communion as a kid and the alien peking around the door scared the crap out of me too. That was my new boogie man. TO make things worse I lived in an old big house in the hills with brush all around the yards. Plenty of places to hide and sneak up on a house. My bedroom had all these huge old glass (thin) windows. I remember as a kid constantly looking at them to make sure there wasn't some creature standing on the other side. Usually I'd see a shadow move, get freaked and then realize it was a shadow from inside the room reflecting off the glass.

Then I read the book Gulf Breeze Sightings. Made everything even worse when I got to the chapter where he goes to open the patio door only to find a grey staring at him from less than a foot away on the other side of the glass. COuple that with the fear of windows thing and it was one potent boogie man to be afraid of.

I think that people are afraid of greys because they are the new boogie man. For all of mans history we've always had a fear of small elf/goblin like creatures. WHy. how did that evolve in us? THats the part I'm trying to figure out.

Finally. I think what scares us about greys is the huge eyes. Humans are part predator. Predators don't like things with big eyes. We like to be the ones doing the watching not the other way around. So it naturally makes us feel uneasy. THink about it. Most people are creeped out by large eyes. Or things with lots of eyes (spiders)
etc...

I had one of these ugly pus buckets standing over me after a ridiculously, extraordinary, mind destroying dream that pretty much paved the way for 20 years of mental hell (and I am sorry to say, it was NOT just me going ga ga. I was having my mind attacked. Long story).

I screamed like a girl in a B movie, and swung so hard, I spun myself across where I was sleeping and rolled into a spread eagle position. I missed, because the SOB disappeared before I could connect. Never have seen a grey since, except in the usual media. I screamed because..well... you just do NOT expect to wake up to someone standing over you while you sleep when you live alone- and well- the whole "not human" part just added fuel to the fire.

What's more- I saw a ship last year at a distance of 30-40 feet (power line level). I was so unafraid, if the thing had landed, I would have bum rushed the landing ramp. (turns out it was being flown by a reptilian type creature- my g/f saw it thru the cockpit glass)

As for abductions- I am SURE I am one of those sleeping ones- tho with what little I do remember.. Again, no fear, no apprehension- mostly tired, sore, and my head full to bursting with weird tidbits of info that go *somewhere* into my brain. I cannot access them. I am occasionally being trained in a military setting (hence waking up and feeling like I have been exercising all frigging night)- again, little more than fragments. And for me to be called an "abductee" just doesn't make sense. I have no trauma, apprehension, nothing that labels me as "abducted". Others' mileage may vary.

I am have been pretty left without fear (except where the govt comes in. Then- I am afraid. VERY. Afraid.). I could leave tomorrow on a ship, take cat, g/f, and my computers ( Art programs, ya know), clothes/ personals- and not look back. Neither will my g/f.

reply to post by Ilyich


I believe your fear has to do with their eyes. In nature, many animals (think butterflies and moths) use the appearance of large eyes, either actual eyes or markings designed to look like eyes, to scare away predators.

It depends on the particular image.

I find the particular image used on the cover of communion to be creepy, whereas other representations of the stereotypical 'grey' are not.

I think its the recognisably human, but wrong, facial features that cause the 'creepiness'.

Its the same effect with antique children's dolls.

YEah good point about the butterflys and fish using fake eye spots to scare away predators. Lions don't attack when you stare them down. Neither do tigers. Predators like to be the one watching not the other way around.

Interesting story about a guy named Yamaguchi Gogen, then grand master of Goju style karate. He was captured by the chinese in WW2. To humiliate him the chinese threw him in a cage with a tiger. The tiger did its usual bluff of staring and growling. But Yamaguchi was a warrior and knew how t deal with other predatory animals. He got into a staring contest with the tiger. THe tiger would growl at him, make faints etc...Eventually due to the constant staring the tiger was subdued and submissive. Yamaguchi seeing his opportunity then went in for the kill and bare handedly killed the tiger he was locked up with.

THe point is simply staring at another predator will scramble it's circuits. Predators like to be doing the staring. Works with the eyes on the greys too. It's perfectly adapted to exploit our phsycological weaknesses being part predator. THey are huge and black, and they never blink. They just stare...and stare...and stare.