Derren Brown: The Assassin Experiment (Proves MK-Ultra assassin programming is REAL)

reply to post by dsldsl2014

If youre that ignorant and naive, i suggest you read up more on MKultra and project monarch.

I read the disclosed documents, did you?

reply to post by Klassified

Willing minds can be created from unwilling minds Boncho. It just takes a little more time, patience, and persistence.

Yes, that's a fair statement. Social engineering. But as I said part of that is believing your powerless in the first place. Or essentially, the mark being a willing participant.

About the best thing that came out of MKULTRA was Sodium Penthothal, but even that is considered widely ineffective in interrogations.

Hence the whole "water boarding" issue that has come up in the last decade. If it was so easy that you apply a few mind control techniques and out pops a willing participant, much more could be done in clandestine services. Unfortunately for spy agencies around the globe, their success rate is scarred with countless instances of blowback which covering up becomes an equal or larger conspiracy than the intended plan that started it all.



Declassified docs.

Here it is: Dark Knight shooting suspect James Holmes claiming amnesia, keeps asking 'Why am I here?"

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by betheflow
Here it is: Dark Knight shooting suspect James Holmes claiming amnesia, keeps asking 'Why am I here?"

www.abovetopsecret.com...

SON OF A B***H!!!!!!!!!

WOW my mind is boggled right now... this is too much of a coincidence!

WAY TOO MUCH OF A COINCIDENCE.

We need to update the law to account for hypnosis.

Just because it seems unlikely doesn't mean it's impossible!

Yes murder is a terrible thing, but that's why it's easy to overlook the facts.

How can we honestly justify charging a man who was programmed to kill?

What if he really is just a nice guy and not a crazy psychopath?

The law needs to catch up with science and realize the possibilities...

We can't afford to dismiss these claims because we can't comprehend how hypnosis works.

It works.

Ron Paul on the shooting

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In light of this demonstration, I think "reasonable doubt" is enough to acquit.

Oh, of course every single "famous" case where we have unanswered questions is mind control or "government programming".

Even the boy who cried wolf is sick of that assumption being made. Hypothesizing is great, but accusations need to be held until more facts are known.

People here on ATS need to realize that discussions on current events like this are a collective sounding board. I hate when people say "oh that's crap, b/c of X, Y or Z." It's OK for anyone to throw something against the board even if it's goofy or wrong...often parts of those ideas are the missing pieces to another theory that makes stone cold sense.

In this case, we do need more information (which the judge quickly locked down from the public) because what data we have doesn't seem to fit together very well at all.

The data I would love to see is a positive ID on all the officers on the 911 tapes. Specifically, when they identify a suspect in the back of the theater and another officer chimes in "You mean the guy in the car?" (which shifts the entire focus of the response). I want a positive ID on that guy.

Back to the topic. That video was absolutely chilling. Other posters are right...how far has this science come, how much control can they exert through our willingness to sit in front of the glowing box? As for absolute control, at least it's the top 1% of suggestible folks. I know I'm not in that percentile by far, from failed hypnosis attempts in the past. If you mentally refuse to give up control it's pretty impossible to keep you hypnotized. They can't 'take' your will.

I was going to post this the other night but we cant watch in the uk because of the copyright laws. But I have seen it.

I did post a short clip of derren brown in the other thread about holmes having amnesia.

Yes it is fairly simple to do. Whats more derren used no drugs on the people, if he can do this just imagine what the governmemt can do.

People who think holmes should get the death penalty need to realise, holmes could easily have been them.

Yep, the government could grab any of us off the street and do this to us, then we would be asking, "what am I doing in jail".

Originally posted by boncho
About the best thing that came out of MKULTRA was Sodium Penthothal, but even that is considered widely ineffective in interrogations.

Hence the whole "water boarding" issue that has come up in the last decade. If it was so easy that you apply a few mind control techniques and out pops a willing participant, much more could be done in clandestine services. Unfortunately for spy agencies around the globe, their success rate is scarred with countless instances of blowback which covering up becomes an equal or larger conspiracy than the intended plan that started it all.

Declassified docs.

First off, you are making judgements on DISCLOSED information- that which we are Allowed to see. Second, no doubt this field of work has moved ahead, third, water boarding etc may be just another neccessary mind tool for those that have been mind controlled into not being mind controlled.

Whole lot we most likely will never know about in the psy-op world, but this video shows what is possible to do to an average person, and not a whole lot of time spent on them. Imagine the programming that could be accomplished by evil persons with this talent and knowledge.

I attended at Hypnosis demonstration in Wendover NV maybe a year or two ago. I watched people do all sorts of unorthodox things.. one person was programmed to roar like a lion every time they heard the word fancy.. I myself am told barked like a dog whilst crawling on all fours.. I don't remember that part... anyway.. what I'm saying is even before I saw this video I was already well aware of how powerful hypnotic suggestion can be..

I have never had any doubt what was claimed of MK ultra was absolutely possible and then some. Now of course I'm not saying that Holmes was in fact programmed to carry out this attack.. He may very well be faking his amnesia after all and it is more likely he is just a homicidal psychopath....

I will say however that it is very possible..

I will also say that brainwashing goes much deeper than hypnotic suggestion.. I'm sure everyone here has no doubt that a person can be completely brainwashed.. Cults have been doing it for years as (to an extent) has the military as their tactic is to break you down to build you back up one of the fundamentals of brain washing.

It has already been proven many times your own mind can betray you..
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Let's play out a possible hypothetical.

Let's take account the event in question Aurora.. Now.. the official story is he acted alone. So let's pretend for a moment this is true. Eye witnesses said they saw him take a phone call before he sprung into action...

Now if he was in a hypnotic state, then the individual on the other end of the phone would simply need to give him the trigger word. Upon receiving the trigger he would spring into action fulfilling his programming and then upon completion (aka returning to his car) he would snap out of it and be completely unaware of the events that transpired.. Then the authorities would not only have a living breathing psycho killer in custody they would be able to use his very existence to their own ends.

reply to post by SunnyDee

Whole lot we most likely will never know about in the psy-op world, but this video shows what is possible to do to an average person, and not a whole lot of time spent on them. Imagine the programming that could be accomplished by evil persons with this talent and knowledge.

In a sense you are right. Since this made for TV charade has people believing everything in it, I supposed the people watching are being brainwashed....