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on the morning of 12/9 at 5.10 am uk time it was announced from the whitehouse that they had shot PLANE[S] out of the sky that statement sure woke me up
Originally posted by nixie_nox
That the government knew it was going to happen, but Al Queda switched the day.
Flight 93 was taken down by our own military.
Originally posted by SpittinTruth
I closed the case, after researching this site; and having researched this 'event' for 3 years. NO ONE has mentioned this lady, and she should be taken seriously. ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY
Originally posted by thedman
Maybe can explain this .....
Somebody planted a aircraft part on top of her
Originally posted by Varemia
Originally posted by r2d246
I think if that was legit then the plane would litterally bounce off the side.
No offense, but that's just stupid. Read up on elementary physics. Try force calculations. The faster an object moves, the more energy it has to impart on impact, exponentially. Then, try to tell me that the walls of the tower would be able to not only absorb the impact energy completely, but that they would reflect the plane away.
It's like you didn't even go through a basic science class.
Originally posted by Varemia
Read up on elementary physics. Try force calculations. The faster an object moves, the more energy it has to impart on impact, exponentially. Then, try to tell me that the walls of the tower would be able to not only absorb the impact energy completely, but that they would reflect the plane away.
THIRD LAW: If two objects interact, say in a collision, the force exerted by object 1 on object 2 is matched by a force of exerted by object 2 on object 1 of the same size, but in the opposite direction.
In physics, classical mechanics is one of the two major sub-fields of mechanics, which is concerned with the set of physical laws describing the motion of bodies under the action of a system of forces. The study of the motion of bodies is an ancient one, making classical mechanics one of the oldest and largest subjects in science, engineering and technology.
Newton's third law of motion is naturally applied to collisions between two objects. In a collision between two objects, both objects experience forces that are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction. Such forces often cause one object to speed up (gain momentum) and the other object to slow down (lose momentum). According to Newton's third law, the forces on the two objects are equal in magnitude. While the forces are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction, the accelerations of the objects are not necessarily equal in magnitude. In accord with Newton's second law of motion, the acceleration of an object is dependent upon both force and mass. Thus, if the colliding objects have unequal mass, they will have unequal accelerations as a result of the contact force that results during the collision.
Easy. What proof do you have that she was hit by an aircraft part?
That means any increase in force is felt equally by both objects.
Originally posted by RockLobster
Man , you need to stop waking me up like this - V -
Tell me , with your ever changing ->opinion
Originally posted by thegameisup
There was not enough energy left after the impact to 'knock off the fireproofing' you know very little about what you are trying to convey, and are just what is known as a 'repeater', a parrot. You are parroting the NIST report, that has been proven by many to be a pack of lies filled with very flawed science.
Originally posted by thegameisup
There was not enough energy left after the impact to 'knock off the fireproofing'
Originally posted by thedman
reply to post by DonJuan
Easy. What proof do you have that she was hit by an aircraft part?
Are you heard of hearing or just dense ....?
"almost sliced in half by landing gear of second jet....." about 30 minutes into video
This is from a documentary on NY Downtown Hospital several blocks south of WTC which became the
defacto ER for the diaster scene as routes to the other hospitals were blocked by debris or traffic
Originally posted by waypastvne
Originally posted by thegameisup
There was not enough energy left after the impact to 'knock off the fireproofing'
Go to the 2:43 mark on this vidieo
This video was shot before the towers collapsed.
Can you explain to us where all that dust came from ?
Originally posted by Varemia
Originally posted by thegameisup
There was not enough energy left after the impact to 'knock off the fireproofing' you know very little about what you are trying to convey, and are just what is known as a 'repeater', a parrot. You are parroting the NIST report, that has been proven by many to be a pack of lies filled with very flawed science.
The fireproofing was basically a sprayed-on powder. How have you determined that it would be undamaged by the plane impact? To my understanding, the fireproofing would regularly fall off in the event of electrical work when a worker would bump into it. I imagine that just the vibration from impact would knock off what wasn't directly hit.
Originally posted by thegameisup
You can imagine all you like, but all the fireproofing on all the steel beams in the whole building was not affected, maybe a small amount, but not enough to make it collapse.
Keep clinging onto that theory, but even without it the steel would have been able to withstand the fire.
Yeah, where did the claim in the video come from? Where is the source, where is the evidence to prove what exactly hit Deborah?
Please do provide some hard evidence, someone saying it in a video is not evidence because we need to know the source of their claim, and real evidence to back up the source
Once we started taking off, I guess 30 feet in front of us, there was a lady on the ground by the curb and she was just waving her arms. That's all she could wave. Her legs were crushed. Apparently she got hit by part of the landing gear, one of the tires of the airplane. There was a large tire next to her. FDNY EMT Orlando Martinez
...we started making our way to NYU Downtown Hospital, Beekman, to drop off our first set of patients when we got flagged down for another lady who got hit by the landing gear of the first plane. FDNY EMT Frank Puma
Originally posted by thedman
reply to post by thegameisup
Yeah, where did the claim in the video come from? Where is the source, where is the evidence to prove what exactly hit Deborah?
Please do provide some hard evidence, someone saying it in a video is not evidence because we need to know the source of their claim, and real evidence to back up the source
Why the sudden demand for the providence of the evidence I posted? Considering that you are notorious for
posting some of the most idiotic and false claims I have seen
OK
FDNY EMTs who treated her on the street
Once we started taking off, I guess 30 feet in front of us, there was a lady on the ground by the curb and she was just waving her arms. That's all she could wave. Her legs were crushed. Apparently she got hit by part of the landing gear, one of the tires of the airplane. There was a large tire next to her. FDNY EMT Orlando Martinez
...we started making our way to NYU Downtown Hospital, Beekman, to drop off our first set of patients when we got flagged down for another lady who got hit by the landing gear of the first plane. FDNY EMT Frank Puma
In the video can see the EMTs working on her
The video was produced by a British documentary maker for the 10 th Anniversary of 9/11 about NY Downtown
Hospital. NY Downtown was considered so small that was left out of OEM disaster planning for NYC
Suppose can find some conspiracy in that
Considering that you are notorious for posting some of the most idiotic and false claims I have seen
Originally posted by Varemia
Originally posted by thegameisup
You can imagine all you like, but all the fireproofing on all the steel beams in the whole building was not affected, maybe a small amount, but not enough to make it collapse.
Keep clinging onto that theory, but even without it the steel would have been able to withstand the fire.
Based on what, exactly? You keep making claims and assumptions, but you've backed up nothing you've said so far.