Christian upbringing? (me, too) Recently born again? Let's talk!

reply to post by AfterInfinity

And as a 2nd wave SC, I'm tired of it.

Okay, I'm tired of it too. But, what is a "2nd wave SC"? (I'm guessing it's not "Soldier of Christ"... )

the most intelligent prefer to use it to their worldly advantage, and the rest bury their heads in the sand while worshipping a god based on a two thousand year old book.

Also, I disagree that "the most intelligent" are the ones taking advantage. They are the scum, in my opinion. The "worshippers" are those being taken advantage of, in my opinion.

The MOST INTELLIGENT thing we can do is rally together to change things, you are right. So with every additional person talking about it, maybe we can make a diff. Get me??

reply to post by wildtimes


2nd wave SC - see my contributions to the Earth Volunteers thread.

reply to post by AfterInfinity

Okay, I thought that may have been what you're talking about. Yeah, I'm a first wave. See? Wave.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by Klassified

 

My apologies for the post. I have a severe dislike for people too afraid of thinking for themselves. Combined with occasional misunderstanding (which I am also capable of) it shows through at times.

Again, apologies. I am, after all, only human. Emotions are in my blood, so to speak.

edit on 18-7-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)

What post are you referring to? You haven't offended me in any way.

Don't have a severe dislike for them, try to understand them. That's what I try to do in threads like this. I try to help those who have never been a Christian, or those who were never as deeply into as I was, understand what Christians believe, and how they think. I'm not an expert, but I try to share what little I know to help others see the difference in mindset.

As to misunderstanding, I can see why you might have misunderstood my previous post. I was coming at Wildtimes from a Christian perspective. I knew she would catch my drift. But someone else might not.

reply to post by Klassified

What post are you referring to? You haven't offended me in any way.

Whew! Glad you didn't read it. He retracted it. (Thanks, AfterInfinity )
Yes, you knew I would get it, and I did. Thanks for the chuckle.

reply to post by wildtimes


First off, I take it very seriously. Something like that can't just be shrugged off or shifted down the list; there are too many connotations, too many "if we have this, then there must be that, which means this is also blah blah blah" going on. Way too much important stuff to take it anything less than seriously...not that I can stop people from laughing at me if they choose to.

Second, that little guy waved six times, which makes you sixth wave. And not very big waves, either.

reply to post by wildtimes

Well, as you have said, it takes time, observation, and conversation to know any given member here, and their slant on things. So I'm not going to hold it against anyone who hasn't been around here long enough to know our frequent posters. I'm still learning myself. And I'm usually a fairly quick study.

reply to post by AfterInfinity

First off, I take it very seriously. Something like that can't just be shrugged off or shifted down the list; there are too many connotations, too many "if we have this, then there must be that, which means this is also blah blah blah" going on. Way too much important stuff to take it anything less than seriously...not that I can stop people from laughing at me if they choose to.

Second, that little guy waved six times, which makes you sixth wave. And not very big waves, either.

Dude, I take it very seriously, too. But lashing out is less productive than engaging in discussions, as far as I can tell. I wasn't laughing AT YOU, I hope you don't think I was. And in fact, I was just perusing your "I Am" thread -- and starred and flagged it. Kudos.

Have you read The Physics of Consciousness; the Quantum Mind and the Meaning of Life, by Evan Harris Walker?

For decades, neuroscientists, psychologists, and an army of brain researchers have been struggling, in vain, to explain the phenomenon of consciousness. Now there is a clear trail to the answer, and it leads through the dense jungle of quantum physics, Zen, and subjective experience, and arrives at an unexpected destination. In this tour-de-force of scientific investigation, Evan Harris Walker shows how the operation of bizarre yet actual properties of elementary particles support a new and exciting theory of reality, based on the principles of quantum physics-a theory that answers questions such as "What is the nature of consciousness, of will?" "What is the source of material reality?" and "What is God?”

You'd really appreciate it. Talks about it very well.

Also, The Evolution of God by Robert Wright?
An excerpt from the introduction:

Well, history is full of civilizations clashing, and for that matter, of civilizations not clashing. And the story of the role played by religious ideas—fanning the flames or dampening the flames, and often changing in the process—is instructive. I think it tells us what we can do to make the current “clash” more likely to have a happy ending.
The second aspect of the current world situation I’ll address is another kind of clash—the much-discussed “clash” between science and religion. Like the first kind of clash, this one has a long and instructive history. It can be traced at least as far back as ancient Babylon, where eclipses that had long been attributed to restless and malignant supernatural beings were suddenly found to occur at predictable intervals—predictable enough to make you wonder whether restless and malignant supernatural beings were really the problem.

Don't know if you're a big reader, but these guys have it goin' on with modern thinking. I suspect you'd draw comfort from both.

It's hard work, and I know it. I'm weary and pissed off, too...But keeping a civil tongue and standing our ground is paramount if we want to reach anyone. Agreed?

reply to post by Klassified


I have absolute faith in you, sir. Well spoken. I know it's hard for the newer members...it took me a while, too, to get to know the players. But daily participation makes a big difference, and I'm sure those who hang around long enough do figure it out.

reply to post by wildtimes


Agreed. I'm just saddened to think this world and its guardians, Homo Sapiens, could have gone so many wonderful places together...

But instead, this. Everything around us. The wars and disease and absolute disrespect for life itself. The rule of external stimuli, and the disregard for spiritual science. It's heartbreaking.

reply to post by wildtimes


You should have another look at the "I am" thread. Let me know what you think of my last post.

reply to post by AfterInfinity

Agreed. I'm just saddened to think this world and its guardians, Homo Sapiens, could have gone so many wonderful places together...

But instead, this. Everything around us. The wars and disease and absolute disrespect for life itself. The rule of external stimuli, and the disregard for spiritual science. It's heartbreaking.

It is heartbreaking. And thus, hard work. It's appalling, and stupid.

I will check out the other thread.

Here's for everybody. We have to step up!!
Calling all angels!
New thread coming, folks....
but here you go:

Lyrics: Please read!

I need a sign, to let me know you're here
All of these lines are being crossed over the atmosphere
I need to know, that things are gonna look up
'Cause I feel us drowning in a sea spilled from a cup

When there is no place safe and no safe place to put my head
When you can feel the world shake from the words that are said

And I'm, calling all Angels
And I'm, calling all you Angels

And I won't give up, if you don't give up
I won't give up, if you don't give up
I won't give up, if you don't give up
I won't give up, if you don't give up

I need a sign to let me know you're here
'Cause my TV set just keeps it all from being clear
I want a reason for the way things have to be
I need a hand to help build up some kind of hope inside of me

And I'm, calling all Angels
And I'm, calling all you Angels
[- From: www.elyrics.net... -]

When children have to play inside, so they don't disappear
While private eyes solve marriage lies 'cause we don't talk for years
And football teams are kissing queens and losing sight of having dreams
In a world where what we want is only what we want until it's ours

And I'm, calling all Angels
And I'm, calling all you Angels

And I'm, calling all Angels
(I won't give up, if you don't give up)
(I won't give up, if you don't give up)
And I'm, calling all you Angels
(I won't give up, if you don't give up)
(I won't give up, if you don't give up)

Calling all you Angels
(I won't give up, if you don't give up)
Calling all you Angels
(I won't give up, if you don't give up)
Calling all you Angels
(I won't give up, if you don't give up)