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So only dumb people vote for Romney but smart people vote for who?
Obviously I am one of those complete idiots that wants my vote to actually count.
But I just dont like putting my vote in the trash which in your mind seems to be the smart thing to do because that wont help Obama, Will it?
Originally posted by lives
reply to post by TheTardis
No cocksmith, I despise them both.
Do you really need an article to know Romney's flip flopped on everything under the political spectrum? That he legislated state sponsored heatlhcare? Raised taxes? Fled to France to avoid serving his country?
But carry on with your unAmerican liberal agenda
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by TheTardis
So only dumb people vote for Romney but smart people vote for who?
If we are going to be honest with ourselves and recognize which candidate has done more for the GOP Neoconservative agenda, that would be Obama.
Obama passed a "conservative" healthcare plan constructed by the heritage foundation and implemented first by Romney is Massachusetts.
Obama continued to perpetuate the war in the Middle East even though he was elected on the basis he would stop ALL the wars.
He tried to implement the NDAA and SOPA which are both Neoconservative pieces of garbage that ask the American people to trade freedom for "safety".
So now the question is this: Are republicans going to vote for that which their ideology coincides or are they going to vote party line? If they vote for ideology....Obama has done more to progress that than Romney ever could.
Vote for Romney and it proves that people vote for the team they are told to and not the team that can perpetuate their agenda.
Obviously I am one of those complete idiots that wants my vote to actually count.
Are you still under the false impression that your vote matters? With all the evidence that comes out about election fraud and how they can change the results any way they choose, you still think the your vote matters?
But I just dont like putting my vote in the trash which in your mind seems to be the smart thing to do because that wont help Obama, Will it?
Well apparently you can't read either. If you look closely in my post you will see that I made the statement "us Republicans". I am a Republican and will not vote for Obama. Also, since I stick to my ideology of true conservatism and not the GOP version of cookie-cutter regurgitation.....I will not vote for Romney either.
I usually do not like to make statements such as this, but it has become so obvious how this game is rigged and the propaganda that surrounds it, I guess I would have to question the intelligence of people whom cannot see past the absolute BS that is being thrown at them.
You think Romney is better then Obama?
Look around you my friend! Take off the rose-colored glasses and see what you are being spoonfed.
All I can say then is that you are part of the group that will help keep Obama in office for 4 more years and big business' lack of confidence in him and our economy is the problem
All I can say then is that you are part of the group that will help keep Obama in office for 4 more years and big business' lack of confidence in him and our economy is the problem.
Originally posted by TheTardis[/i
Awesome.. Now I am a liberal? Cool.. Who should I vote for then oh enlightened sir? You seem to be the smartest man alive and we must all look pretty dumb to you, right? It doesn't really matter what he did as a Governor now does it? Clinton ran Arkansas into the ground and you guys all think he did a good job. Obummer never was a governor. And candidates pander to audiences, or were you not born yet last election year? And no one is against state sponsored healthcare. Obamacare is not state sponsored and it is not healthcare. Where is the disconnect there people? Why cant people understand that? And as far as France. He is a Mormon. They go on missions, I dont believe he is the first Mormon to do a 2 year mission after high school. I grew up around many Mormons and they all do it. Yes. Lets attack the guy for having some morals. I think we need someone that wasn't shoving cocain up their nose and protesting "The man" for a change. Is that really what this has come to? We have slipped so far that we will now let a guy like that run the country? Hell Clinton about got yanked at the thought of it. This guy admits to it and its ok?
Originally posted by Pladuim
reply to post by TheTardis
Hey,
Don't forget, Obama enthusiastically used cocain, smoked marijuana, drank heavily. You know, all of the important leadership qualities we should look for when voting for our President.edit on 10-7-2012 by Pladuim because: (no reason given)
I won't say what my ideas are. Every time I outline my plans, I lose elections".
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by TheTardis
All I can say then is that you are part of the group that will help keep Obama in office for 4 more years and big business' lack of confidence in him and our economy is the problem
What?
Wall Street, GM, Solandrya (or whatever they are called now), the bailouts, the cash for clunkers, everything Obama has done has been for Big Business! Why would they lack confidence in him or the economy? As long as we keep raising the debt ceiling, and printing more money via Fed loosening and Quantitative Easing, the Big Businesses have it MADE!
Even the Healthcare bill benefits big business!
The problem with the economy is much deeper and widespread than Obama. It was a false economy to begin with, and Keynesian Policies are only temporary successes, it cannot possibly maintain itself.
Obama is plenty of things, and he is a piss-poor president, but the economy was in the crapper long before Obama, we just didn't realize it yet. His economic policies have poisoned future generations, but they have also lessened the immediate impact. Personally, I'd rather hit rock bottom now instead of later, but the average voter would rather support Obama's policies and ease the rate of descent even if it does mean a longer and harder road to recovery.
Originally posted by lives
Originally posted by TheTardis[/i
Awesome.. Now I am a liberal? Cool.. Who should I vote for then oh enlightened sir? You seem to be the smartest man alive and we must all look pretty dumb to you, right? It doesn't really matter what he did as a Governor now does it? Clinton ran Arkansas into the ground and you guys all think he did a good job. Obummer never was a governor. And candidates pander to audiences, or were you not born yet last election year? And no one is against state sponsored healthcare. Obamacare is not state sponsored and it is not healthcare. Where is the disconnect there people? Why cant people understand that? And as far as France. He is a Mormon. They go on missions, I dont believe he is the first Mormon to do a 2 year mission after high school. I grew up around many Mormons and they all do it. Yes. Lets attack the guy for having some morals. I think we need someone that wasn't shoving cocain up their nose and protesting "The man" for a change. Is that really what this has come to? We have slipped so far that we will now let a guy like that run the country? Hell Clinton about got yanked at the thought of it. This guy admits to it and its ok?
Your moniker is fitting.
WTF are you saying?? I'm saying IT DOES matter what he did as governor. The position he held when he signed anti-Second Amendment legislation. Where he legislated state sponsored healthcare. Where that state sponsored healthcare provided state sponsored abortions. Where he raised taxes. I'd venture to say those are liberal ideologies. You're the tardis who's listening to his rhetoric. You probably believe every guy at the bar would be in the NFL if not for his knee injury.
WTF are you saying? You said "nobody is against state sponsored healthcare." reTardis, do you realize state is a euphemism for government. Government sponsored healthcare. Who sponsors the government? Should I bring it down to reTardis level and say HEALTHCARE MANDATED BY THE GOVERNMENT PAID FOR BY TAX DOLLARS? You're for that? And you say you're not liberal?
You're against the President using coc aine. I'm against the President fleeing the country, the country he now wishes to command, to avoid waring. Insert whatever excuse you wish, but the ends have ratified the means. Both issues of morality. But somehow your activism critiques drug use more severely than getting a f'ing a draft deferment? Some American you are.
Get lost unAmerican liberaledit on 10-7-2012 by lives because: (no reason given)
What I mean is that there are a large number of large corporations that are sitting on cash right now. They do not want to invest it and they do not want to spend it. They have no confidence that they will get a return on their investment.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by TheTardis
What I mean is that there are a large number of large corporations that are sitting on cash right now. They do not want to invest it and they do not want to spend it. They have no confidence that they will get a return on their investment.
That money is overseas, and it is sheltered from US taxes, and you are right about them hoping that a Republican will get in office and lower the corporate tax so they can bring the money back to the States to invest here.
Romney might actually be a good candidate for that very reason, he is likely to push to lower the corporate tax, or open up new loopholes, and that will benefit some big Corps, and if we are very, very lucky, it might create some new industry and jobs.
A lot of "ifs" there, but it might be a decent reason to support the Republican candidate.