Regarding "one world religion"....

Originally posted by wildtimes
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Everyone must endure testing.

Seems like we do, every day. We're all tested to the limits of our ability...each in his or her own way.

But...if there's gonna be another one... is it going to be open book??

I took his Q to mean the millennium folks who would he born and would live on earth with satan bound in the abyss. Yes, all of us from Adam on are tested.

reply to post by NOTurTypical

Okay, but what will the "test of sheep and goats" be?

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

Okay, but what will the "test of sheep and goats" be?

Christ talks about it, but basically how people treated the Jews. Did they "give them water when they thirsted" if not they did it to Him personally.

reply to post by NOTurTypical

Did they "give them water when they thirsted" if not they did it to Him personally.

Oh. Okay, whew. I think I'ma be okay then.

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

Did they "give them water when they thirsted" if not they did it to Him personally.

Oh. Okay, whew. I think I'ma be okay then.

Matthew 25:36-41

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Now, now, dear NuT. You know that to me, that looks like a phone number from the 60s. I'm not a Scripture repository (though I admire people who have it so memorized). I'd be more likely to memorize Shakespeare Acts, Scenes, Lines...)

but...
I presume it's the one about "inasmuch as you did not feed or offer comfort to the least of them, so you treated me as well"...something like that, right?
The Golden Rule. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

Now, now, dear NuT. You know that to me, that looks like a phone number from the 60s.

I'm not a Scripture repository (though I admire people who have it so memorized). I'd be more likely to memorize Shakespeare Acts, Scenes, Lines...)

but...
I presume it's the one about "inasmuch as you did not feed or offer comfort to the least of them, so you treated me as well"...something like that, right?
The Golden Rule. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Well others may wish to Google the scriptural reference. And He said His "brethren" which would be the Jews.

reply to post by NOTurTypical

Well others may wish to Google the scriptural reference. And He said His "brethren" which would be the Jews.

Are you suggesting that he was only talking to the Jews, then? Because that's what I think. I understand it was Paul who took what he reportedly said and applied it to everyone. At least, that's what my research has indicated.

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

Well others may wish to Google the scriptural reference. And He said His "brethren" which would be the Jews.

Are you suggesting that he was only talking to the Jews, then? Because that's what I think. I understand it was Paul who took what he reportedly said and applied it to everyone. At least, that's what my research has indicated.

Matthew has a Jewish audience, Mark is for a gentile audience. But when Christ was walking the Earth His ministry was to the Jews first and foremost. It wasn't until Peter's vision post-Pentecost that the gospel message was presented to the Gentiles.

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So, if one chooses to follow Christ's teachings ONLY (as reported by the authors of the written accounts), and dismiss the mutations that grew out of them, are they still adequately "with the program" according to "God"?

Originally posted by wildtimes
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So, if one chooses to follow Christ's teachings ONLY (as reported by the authors of the written accounts), and dismiss the mutations that grew out of them, are they still adequately "with the program" according to "God"?

Sure. The authors after Him just basically wrote pastoral epistles to help Christians in their walk with Him. Pay particular attention to what Christ said in John chapter 6. The church (ekklesia) wasn't born until 50 days after Passover at the feast of Pentecost so most of the instructions for it are in Acts and the epistles.

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Okay, so...doesn't that allow for different cultures to have their own "Jesus" messengers? I think they are all noble and Divine souls, who've come to give guidance.... why could there not be more than one?

Originally posted by wildtimes
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Okay, so...doesn't that allow for different cultures to have their own "Jesus" messengers? I think they are all noble and Divine souls, who've come to give guidance.... why could there not be more than one?

There is only One " Mighty One". God offered up His Son only once for all men.

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There is only One " Mighty One". God offered up His Son only once for all men.

Hmmm. Just as I suspected. So, the people who've never heard of him are just SOL. Got it.

Sorry, you know I disagree with that. No. Many messengers have come, and more will do so.

Originally posted by wildtimes
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There is only One " Mighty One". God offered up His Son only once for all men.

Hmmm. Just as I suspected. So, the people who've never heard of him are just SOL. Got it.

Sorry, you know I disagree with that. No. Many messengers have come, and more will do so.

And they all have different messages. In your opinion is God just schizophrenic?

reply to post by NOTurTypical

And they all have different messages. In your opinion is God just schizophrenic?

When the student is ready, the teacher comes. Schizophrenic? No, because God is not human. And the messengers all have the same basic message, btw. Be kind to one another...we are all in the same boat.

My opinion is that if there is a Divine Source, we are all part of it, we are ALL connected to it, eternally. The 3 billion years leading up to where we are now, from single cells that merged with one another...to more complex forms of life...are parts of the plan. You yourself say God is outside of time. To us, 3 billion years is a really long time. But that doesn't mean that God, or Source, or The Creator didn't have a master plan in mind.

In fact, evolution may have been step one...and now we, as human beings, have the capacity to realize our common consciousness is all-powerful. We can make this a beautiful, tranquil place (on earth as in heaven), or we can continue to divide, conquer, belittle, harass, destroy, exploit, enslave and disregard one another.

We are living in an age where we MIGHT be able to pull it together. Or not. Just blow it all to smithereens, at which point God sighs and...starts over. With single cells in a primordial ooze.

Or, other extant sentient civilizations will come again and TRY to infuse some wisdom and love into us as a species yet AGAIN. I wonder, do the messengers answer to God, and get written up if they fail? Is it "his" decision who to send where, and when?

Why would he leave out whole populations of his creation?

The Only One Son thing just doesn't make sense to me. No way one guy could have reached the whole world. He had teachers, too, you know!

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They do NOT have the same message whatsoever. Christ's claims were extremely exclusive and Islam for one denies all the exclusive claims Christ made as their central doctrines. 4 places in the Quran it says Allah does not have a Son.

reply to post by NOTurTypical

They do NOT have the same message whatsoever.

Yes, they do. We are all connected. We are eternal, and all part of the Divine. We need to treat each other the way we want to be treated. Christ said so himself. I'm not talking about modern religions, NuT, I'm talking about the legendary teachers of the ancient faiths.

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

They do NOT have the same message whatsoever.

Yes, they do. We are all connected. We are eternal, and all part of the Divine. We need to treat each other the way we want to be treated. Christ said so himself. I'm not talking about modern religions, NuT, I'm talking about the legendary teachers of the ancient faiths.

Like the ancient teaching that we can be like the gods? At least you're not denying that Christ's claims were universally exclusive. And btw, Christ taught that NOT all were part of the divine, that some folk are sons of the devil.

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I can't answer the question as to why, but I can answer the question as to how. God is going to reveal himself in a way that no one on this planet can deny. He is going to take away our free will, and live our lives for us. We will be trapped in our bodies, totally aware of what is happening, with no choice but to understand.

When God takes over as our primary consciousness, we won't just see the world through our own eyes, we'll see it through ALL eyes, through HIS eyes, all at once. We will know once and for all, that God is more real than anything we could've ever imagined. Once he gives us back our free will, and we are finally able to comprehend the sheer awesomeness of the one true God, there will be no need for religion.