Dr. Norman Bergrun: "Ringmakers Of Saturn" INTERVIEW! Important information for the world...

Perhaps this explains the bizarre ring around Uranus.
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Originally posted by AlchemicalMonocular
Kerry Cassidy is horrible. She's an a$$clown looking for an audience but I feel in the Xmas mood so.............

I have some helpful information for you, Kerry.

There are exactly two categories of people who might read any article you post. The first group comprises those who know you're a liar, a plagiarist, a fraud and an idiot. The second includes only those who
have never heard of you..

Your lies and incoherent nonsense just give the first group an opportunity to laugh at you, and any of the second group who see that crap will immediately migrate to the first.

If you want to maintain as good an image as possible, your best bet?

STFU.

ANGST!

Beware of this fellow. His ANGST re: Ms. Jaguar is amongst.

Sad.

True.

Life!

Originally posted by Unity_99
The Black Ops have been messing with the timelines, and breaking the SEALS, using nukes and technology against saturn. The gods of old released and wanting to attack earth, wonderful.

THOSE are the seals.

edit on 2-7-2012 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)

NORMAN BERGRUN is not SEALED or a SEAL.

Love & Light..means.. to feel the warm touch of life flowing thru my veins. Adhere.

Originally posted by LoveandLightandRainbows

Originally posted by Unity_99
The Black Ops have been messing with the timelines, and breaking the SEALS, using nukes and technology against saturn. The gods of old released and wanting to attack earth, wonderful.

THOSE are the seals.

edit on 2-7-2012 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)

NORMAN BERGRUN is not SEALED or a SEAL.

Love & Light..means.. to feel the warm touch of life flowing thru my veins. Adhere.

What is this, I don't even..... The hell you talking about?

reply to post by spire

Did you not read the thread nor review the Old Human Cidger's presentation? He is ill. Sick.

Do not follow in.

This is certainly an interesting video, I'll have to watch in whole when I get some more free time. Thanks for the post OP. A bit off topic, but has anyone else noticed his jaw looks like a ventriloquist dummy (a bit creepy)

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So an education means he can't make stuff up?

Maybe the evidence for his claims is hidden under one of his degrees.

Originally posted by Flatfish
F&S for the OP, thanks Arken.

I hadn't seen this interview and I found it to be quite interesting. I've been reading "The Law Of One" series lately and evidence of life among the rings of Saturn fits in perfectly. According to RA, (the entity being channeled in the series) the guardians of our solar system, which he states are 8th density beings, reside in the rings of Saturn. It also seems to reinforce some of what Richard Hoagland has been saying for years, not only with respect to Saturn, but also with Mars and our own Moon. One more place that I found commonality was with the story told by David Adair and the symbiotic alien engine and/or spacecraft he was shown at Area 51.

Thanks again!

Originally posted by quedup
Thanks for bringing this but I just watched the whole vid and the guy contradicts himself too much for my liking. First he said he hadn't heard the term plasma and then later on toward the end he demonstrates that he does have knowledge of this term.
He also stated that there were black Aliens then later states that he doesn't believe there are Alien beings directing these vehicles and Governments of the world aren't in contact. Seti would have discovered them?????

Could have been confusion due to his age granted but either way, I do think he is grasping at authorship by using his knowledge and experience. You can't blame the guy but at $1000 for his book - he's not going to be a popular author and he thinks that at such a high price people will believe there is real secret knowledge to be had.

No - not for me!

WOW! Apparently you were either watching something entirely different than the interview linked in the OP or you are completely absent of the ability to comprehend what you hear.

There were no contradictions made by Dr. Bergrun, he never once said that he had never heard the term "plasma" and he never said that SETI would have discovered alien life but rather quite the opposite. What he said was, that SETI had set itself up where they would only discover alien life that knew how to build radios.

Furthermore, when he said he didn't think aliens piloted the spacecraft, he was talking about the craft that were making the rings of Saturn. When he said that black aliens came out of a spacecraft, he was speaking of something that occurred here on earth.

You really should brush up on your listening skills before you dive into any more videos here on ATS because the way your going right now, you seem to be hearing the opposite of what's being said.

Star for you, I am reading the law of one right now and when I came across the Saturn material it triggered my memory of this thread. I came here to post the same thing as you but you beat me to it! Good work!

Originally posted by PrinceDreamer
Ringmakers of Saturn PDF

The following is from the Preface:

Presented herein are pictures of immensely large, enormously powerful extraterrestrial space vehicles located in the vicinity of Saturn and its moons. These photographic revelations are reinforced by, and are consistent with, scientific data extending over centuries as far back as Galileo. The pictures have been obtained by the author using simple, repeatable enhancement techniques applied to publicly available NASA photographs from Voyager 1 and 2 flybys of Saturn. Having been obtained by pre-scheduled flight programming, Voyager photographs are scientifically unique in that they are
strictly impersonal.

What is meant by pre-scheduled flight programming?

Originally posted by Mary Rose
What is meant by pre-scheduled flight programming?

Voyager 1 and 2 only did "fly-bys" of planets. They did not have the ability to go into orbit around -- say, for example -- Saturn or Jupiter for extended periods of time, then be able to fly off again to the next planet.

Therefore, they were only able to take close-up pictures for a few fleeting hours before flying away from each planet. The photos that were taken (the camera angles) were all pre-programmed into the spacecraft prior to the craft reaching the planets.

That is to say, due to the time it takes for messages to go back and forth between Earth and the spacecraft, NASA would not have an opportunity to "look at" the planets to decide what would make good pictures, so they pre-programmed all of the camera angles in ahead of time.

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Thanks!

Can you comment on this part as well:

Originally posted by Mary Rose

. . . Voyager photographs are scientifically unique in that they are strictly impersonal.

I enjoy some of Project Camelot's stuff, there's a lot of interesting interviews on their youtube channel.

But I have to say that as well meaning as Kerry is, she is not a good interviewer, she is very opinionated, and sometimes has very bad manners. I'm reminded of "Ali G" at times when watching her engaging people who are far more knowledgeable and intelligent than she is.

But I do commend her and Bill Ryan on their work all the same.

Originally posted by PrinceDreamer
Ringmakers of Saturn PDF

This is from Chapter 12 “The Status”:

. . . Already an extraterrestrial nuclear explosion aloft has been demonstrated at Tunguska USSR, and perhaps again in 1979 near South Africa and Antarctica. That electromagnetic vehicles are real and awesome can be attested to by the author from a sighting experience backed up by photography and collaborative witnesses. The now confirmed presence of an extraterrestrial nuclear power poses a hazard never contemplated heretofore. Specifically, an extraterrestrial interloper could initiate a nuclear blast which might well be confused by concerned terrestrial nuclear powers for an adversative first strike. . . .

. . . Electromagnetic vehicles have played, and continue to play a role in effecting change. Electromagnetic vehicles, however, also create. They create rings of different types and compositions. They create satellite surfaces, such as that of Iapetus. Is there any reason to think creation stops at this impressive level of achievement? Not at all Just around Saturn, there are fairly ideal chemical broths containing life-form building blocks. Dry-lightning strikes from electromagnetic vehicles should be able to initiate life-form chemical reactions. Hence it can be reasoned that the two concepts, evolution and creation, are both correct.

Although inanimate creation has been shown, animate creation has not. Extraterrestrial life forms have yet to be positively identified though their presence is implied. . . .

. . . Electromagnetic vehicles most likely originate outside the solar system. Hence, new avenues of inquiry can be considered concerning observed phenomena in the universe. The universe is laden heavily with nuclear energy; and apparently some societal intelligence has mastered its application on a large scale. Accomplishments include massively large engines, controlled nuclear fusion, planetary-satellite surface modification, lengthy transmission of huge electrical currents, and immensely high-power electro-potential fields. . . .

Originally posted by PrinceDreamer
Ringmakers of Saturn PDF

This is the Appendix:

Equating a "body having physically inherent mobile capability" to the term "vehicle" possibly may be considered as too abrupt a step in nomenclature development. The potential problem lay in various connotations for the word. Multiple connotations do not lead to a focused idea concerning what is meant.

To illustrate, an automobile has inherent mobile capability; and reference to an automobile as a vehicle is quite common. On the other hand for example, an ape also has inherent mobile capability; but reference to an ape as a vehicle is uncommon in the sense that an automobile is a vehicle. That the former is inanimate and the latter animate is not the intended distinction. The significant distinction is that an automobile does not occur directly in Nature, whereas an ape is regarded as a direct product of Nature.

For purpose of the subject matter, the term "vehicle" is meant to be something not occurring directly in Nature, but rather something occurring as a by-product of Nature. Early introduction of "vehicle" as a descriptor is considered by the author to be, at worst, premature but not an inaccurate usage.

The reason for the belief in descriptor accuracy is independent of the non-personal photographic evidence presented herein. In 1971, the author had the exciting experience of having sighted and photographed a mobile slender body fitting the specific properties of the two bodies shown later in Plates 5 and 6. This sighting at the time was experienced by the author's wife and daughter. Through binoculars, this body appeared to be large and incorporated fine aerodynamic features at the fore and aft exhaust ends. That is, the ends did not terminate squarely cut-off as would result when a pole is sawed in two.
Rather, the ends were rounded much the same as are cowls of jet engine intakes. Bulbar streamers were emitted from locations along the body. Control over these streamers was demonstrated by the modulation of their activity, and also by introduction of additional streamers which moved with definite periodicity.

Drawing upon many years of aerospace experience, the author has no reservation about labeling the sighted body a vehicle. The numerous and unique properties of the sighted vehicle also are evident variously in the micro-photographs presented. Until more research is performed to demonstrate otherwise, the bodies discussed in Plate 3 and subsequently shall be considered vehicles rather than objects of Nature.

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wow would that be a sighting.... they really exist this man claims what would be the purpose of those rings?

reply to post by V4SL4ND

If one take the ancient aliens theory about Sumerians and tall giants seriously then they could be tall and black because the Sumerians called themselves Saggiga literally the black headed people,and no they were not talking about hair color as the region is dominated by black haired folks regardless of skin color.

Lament For Urim

The scorching potsherds made the dust glow (?) -- the people groan. He swept the winds over the black-headed people -- the people groan. Sumer was overturned by a snare -- the people groan. It attacked (?) the Land and devoured it completely. Tears cannot influence the bitter storm -- the people groan.

The Land's judgment disappeared -- the people groan. The Land's counsel was swallowed by a swamp -- the people groan. The mother absconded before her child's eyes -- the people groan. The father turned away from his child -- the people groan. In the city the wife was abandoned, the child was abandoned, possessions were scattered about. The black-headed people were carried off from their strongholds. Its queen like a bird in fright departed from her city. Ningal like a bird in fright departed from her city. All the treasures accumulated in the Land were defiled. In all the storehouses abounding in the Land fires were kindled. In its ponds Gibil, the purifier, relentlessly did his work

The storm which knows no mother, the storm which knows no father, the storm which knows no wife, the storm which knows no child, the storm which knows no sister, the storm which knows no brother, the storm which knows no neighbour, the storm which knows no female companion, the storm which caused the wife to be abandoned, which caused the child to be abandoned, the storm which caused the light in the Land to disappear, the storm which swept through, ordered in hate by Enlil -- father Nanna, may that storm swoop down no more on your city. May your black-headed people see it no more.

411-416May that storm, like rain pouring down from heaven, never recur. May that storm, which struck down all the black-headed living beings of heaven and earth, be entirely destroyed. May the door be closed on it, like the great city-gate at night-time. May that storm not be given a place in the reckoning, may its record be hung from a nail outside the house of Enlil.
41710th kirugu.
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See entire text interesting read.

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Sargon of Akkad

Sargon of Akkad is the first historical leader who ruled a multi-ethnic state. In other words, he was the first emperor we know by name. He creating an empire that united all of Mesopotamia (now covered by the modern country of Iraq). He was an Akkadian (a Semitic people) and he conquered the dominant Sumerians.

"My mother was a changeling, my father I knew not. The brothers of my father loved the hills. My city is Azupiranu, which is situated on the banks of the Euphrates. My changeling mother conceived me, in secret she bore me. She set me in a basket of rushes, with bitumen she sealed my lid. She cast me into the river which rose over me. The river bore me up and carried me to Akki, the drawer of water. Akki, the drawer of water, took me as his son and reared me. Akki, the drawer of water, appointed me as his gardener. While I was a gardener, Ishtar granted me her love, and for four and [?] years I exercised kingship. The black-headed people I ruled, I governed mighty mountains with chip-axes of bronze I conquered."
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