The reason I joined ATS, my demonic encounter

reply to post by lambs to lions


I had something like this happen to me. I was so scared I wanted to go to church right that minute. I read everything I could find on the subject. I read a book by Dr. Neil T. Anderson. It saved me from the demons and that are just what they are.

I put Bibles in everyroom in the house open to scripture, demons cannot handle the Word Of GOD. One night when my family was all in bed I prayed outloud (because demons cant read yur mind they have to be spoken to out loud)for all the demons to be casted in to the pits of hell. Then I prayed for my house to be replaced by Angels. This is a long story short but my home has been protected ever since I did all of this.

There are only demons and angels, not ghosts, people traped in between etc. Your family is under attack by the demons.

I have never been so scared in my life. If you want to talk more u2u me. It is a very long story... Pray and pray some more outloud.

reply to post by judydawg


Thanks for the support. I'm really glad to hear that your problems have stopped. You defintely went about it the right way. I shouldn't be surprised by how many people have told me they have had a similar encounter, but I honestly am. I'm grateful to all the good people on here that seem genuine and supportive. Thanks again.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

and Lambs to Lions

That incident was the LAST time I will do that EVER, I let curiosity get the best of us, and it was no joke.

Originally posted by Ben81
reply to post by daynight42

 

Damn cool up buddy

Whos arrogant again ?

Whatever it takes to set the record straight.

I have to defend myself here as I do anywhere else.

I must realize I am in completely the wrong place to try to get any support for my own view. Most people coming to a topic like this is already likely to believe in demons and that Ouija boards are "evil." So, I must realize most people will have a bias towards believing in what I do not.

It doesn't matter if 90% of people believe in something. What is popular is not necessarily anything other than wrong. People can have completely different experiences with different things and hold different thing accountable for what they experience. It's very difficult to convince someone that something else is responsible for an experience they had. They want the security that comes with feeling they know what happened, so they trust their own version most and seek to have it corroborated by others. Nothing at all new.

Originally posted by daynight42

Originally posted by Ben81
reply to post by daynight42

 

Damn cool up buddy

Whos arrogant again ?

Whatever it takes to set the record straight.

I have to defend myself here as I do anywhere else.

I must realize I am in completely the wrong place to try to get any support for my own view. Most people coming to a topic like this is already likely to believe in demons and that Ouija boards are "evil." So, I must realize most people will have a bias towards believing in what I do not.

It doesn't matter if 90% of people believe in something. What is popular is not necessarily anything other than wrong. People can have completely different experiences with different things and hold different thing accountable for what they experience. It's very difficult to convince someone that something else is responsible for an experience they had. They want the security that comes with feeling they know what happened, so they trust their own version most and seek to have it corroborated by others. Nothing at all new.

I don't think that ouija boards are evil... But using it as a game or using it as a gateway without knowing what you're doing is like handing a four year old a gun and saying have fun, try not to hurt yourself.

Once people start messing around with this kind of thing they are influenced in ways without realizing it. A lot of teen suicides are due to this influence.

Jaden

reply to post by kat2684


I'm with you. I'm a very curious person by nature. I've got books and books on the occult. I'll never crack them open again unless for a reference point. They call it 'occult' or hidden knowledge. It is seductive because we think by delving into it we know something special that everyone else doesn't. It is fascinating, but again, seductive. You can pay a horrible price for curiosity when it involves these things.

Originally posted by kat2684
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

and Lambs to Lions

That incident was the LAST time I will do that EVER, I let curiosity get the best of us, and it was no joke.

edit on 24-6-2012 by kat2684 because: (no reason given)

The first time you see someone get picked up and strangled in front of you, while something you can't even see is holding them in midair, that will be a pants crapper. Messing with EVP's and EMF detectors opens that door too, i found that out the hardway. I think the most frightening thing i ever experienced was hearing footsteps run across my living room floor and no one was there, but it got my cat's attention because she watched it from my lap. I heard that twice.

First of all you posit this entity is a demon. What is a demon? It is, according to cultural documents, a "fallen angel." An angel who turned against God and now wants to harm the beings God created. So no we have to posit a God who made special angels who somehow, went bad...how could this be? How could a loving omniscient God create an entire race of beings which are so flawed? These were special ones. The had NO free will. So how could they get some? The answer to all this is that this whole enculturated mythos is just that, a mythos. God did not create angels. There are no fallen angels. God created us. We are his angels. We are the fallen ones. All who believe in God do so only because they recognize they are PART of God. No one in his or her right mind would walk away from an endless supply of unconditional love, except someone who THOUGHT or PERCEIVED they were different than or separate from God. I.e. Humans. We live in the body, therefore we believe we are separated from God. When we begin to accept this illusion, all hell breaks loose. We believe we are abandoned, like the child of a divorce, we believe somehow God does not love us. In fact we are certain we did something WRONG to provoke this absentee father's wrath. Some people become truly evil and dehumanized because they can no longer see God for what He/She really is. God is Self. It is your unconscious guilt, your anger and your negative energy field creating these horrors. There is no ghost. There is no demon. There is you, generating a force of negativity around your wife and children. Then they begin to generate the same negative force in order to counteract yours! Now you have four entities in one home generating negativity, fear, anger, hopelessness, aggravation, guilt, etc. Do you know what Self does? It MANIFESTS. it fills in the areas that are blank...either with hope and trust and vision of a good future, or the opposite. Ouija boards do nothing but allow a person to connect with the unconscious realm. They are not evil, nor are the people that use them evil or dabbling in evil. In fact I used one once to save someone's life. I've used a ouija board to contact "ghosts" "martians" and dimensional beings...or maybe I was just connecting with Self on another plane. "Occult" means "that which is hidden or secret." True occultists don't believe in demons or gods. They believe in manifestation and energy. You are cleaving to a myth, a lie. God would NEVER send a demon to hurt you simply because you used a ouijaboard. God is not merciless or stupid...because God is YOU.

Whatever, the point is there is no special being of God who would cause such havoc in our lives. There are no Demons. It is US. It is YOU. You need to descend into the heart of darkness of your own being and clear it. Otherwise this "evil" will follow you around for ever. You must learn to forgive. You must learn to AWAKE to consciousness...your consciousness. Stop being angry and afraid. You said yourself it started when you were a kid and rebellious. You broke away from your parents and their ideas and traditions and struck off on your own. Now you are punishing yourself. Instead EMBRACE and LOVE yourself and these demons you made will flee.

Originally posted by whisperindave
First of all you posit this entity is a demon. What is a demon? It is, according to cultural documents, a "fallen angel." An angel who turned against God and now wants to harm the beings God created. So no we have to posit a God who made special angels who somehow, went bad...how could this be? How could a loving omniscient God create an entire race of beings which are so flawed? These were special ones. The had NO free will. So how could they get some? The answer to all this is that this whole enculturated mythos is just that, a mythos. God did not create angels. There are no fallen angels. God created us. We are his angels. We are the fallen ones. All who believe in God do so only because they recognize they are PART of God. No one in his or her right mind would walk away from an endless supply of unconditional love, except someone who THOUGHT or PERCEIVED they were different than or separate from God. I.e. Humans. We live in the body, therefore we believe we are separated from God. When we begin to accept this illusion, all hell breaks loose. We believe we are abandoned, like the child of a divorce, we believe somehow God does not love us. In fact we are certain we did something WRONG to provoke this absentee father's wrath. Some people become truly evil and dehumanized because they can no longer see God for what He/She really is. God is Self. It is your unconscious guilt, your anger and your negative energy field creating these horrors. There is no ghost. There is no demon. There is you, generating a force of negativity around your wife and children. Then they begin to generate the same negative force in order to counteract yours! Now you have four entities in one home generating negativity, fear, anger, hopelessness, aggravation, guilt, etc. Do you know what Self does? It MANIFESTS. it fills in the areas that are blank...either with hope and trust and vision of a good future, or the opposite. Ouija boards do nothing but allow a person to connect with the unconscious realm. They are not evil, nor are the people that use them evil or dabbling in evil. In fact I used one once to save someone's life. I've used a ouija board to contact "ghosts" "martians" and dimensional beings...or maybe I was just connecting with Self on another plane. "Occult" means "that which is hidden or secret." True occultists don't believe in demons or gods. They believe in manifestation and energy. You are cleaving to a myth, a lie. God would NEVER send a demon to hurt you simply because you used a ouijaboard. God is not merciless or stupid...because God is YOU.

Whatever, the point is there is no special being of God who would cause such havoc in our lives. There are no Demons. It is US. It is YOU. You need to descend into the heart of darkness of your own being and clear it. Otherwise this "evil" will follow you around for ever. You must learn to forgive. You must learn to AWAKE to consciousness...your consciousness. Stop being angry and afraid. You said yourself it started when you were a kid and rebellious. You broke away from your parents and their ideas and traditions and struck off on your own. Now you are punishing yourself. Instead EMBRACE and LOVE yourself and these demons you made will flee.

It is my understanding that angels are many things. Servants to God would be a good explanation I would think. Obviously, they had free will. If they did not, then to disobey would have been impossible. Because they did dis-obey then I must deduce that they can make choices. I'm not sure about this, but I want to say they are punished more severly because they have direct knowledge and "know" that there is a God, as opposed to taking a leap of faith. As far as the rest of your post, I will gladly agree to disagree. I respect your opinion, thanks for contributing.

Your story gave me chills...I trust my intuition that you're telling the truth of your experience. I want to help but there's really not much I can do except send you this link and hope it helps in some way.

Do demons exist?

reply to post by Glass


Yes, it is a true story. I'll check out the link when I get a chance, thanks for posting it. I've found that through faith these things can be expelled from your life.

reply to post by Masterjaden


I think that you are right about this, the teen suicides I mean. Not to mention, I believe that there are a lot of other tragedies caused by demons; suicides, murders, perhaps even the recent 'face-eater' incident. Also, many mental illnesses could be attributed to these entities I suppose. It is certainly not something to mess with.

Originally posted by lambs to lions
reply to post by coyote66

 

Kharma...you get what you give so to speak. I agree, you reap what you sew. Thanks for your post, I appreciate it!

karma, basicly you can name it whatever you want. its all about balance, but balance of something rather more dificult to explain, of something i am yet still trying to grasp an understanding myself... cheers

Originally posted by DeadSnow
reply to post by coyote66

 

Some Djinn are supposedly religious and harmless. Either way a harmful Djinn is refered to as shaytan = demon.

not entirely true, according to what some people told me. whether islam or not (or whatever) djins are basicly the same. not necessarily evil, some are just playfull and like to tease around, some are nastier with a darker sense of humour, i mind

you can even relate to them if you want to. but be carefull, just like humans, some are realy nasty. they are probably the trickster caste of the djins, they realy know how to manipulate your mind. the problem is most of people dont realy understand how their own psyche truly works, and thats how they came in.

reply to post by lambs to lions


I have to be honest now... it is not really all that certain whether my worst case scenarios left me stronger, seems like I am still recovering from a life time of the mysterious and unknown. One thing that I have come to the conclusion of and that it is always on an individual basis, not at all like in fiction or the movies.

For a long time I sought answers and validation from outside myself, and that never or rarely happens. People just do not believe the highest strangeness that comes to people, there is always a good measure of doubt and questioning.

That questioning however is healthy imo, otherwise you end up with people who want answers you really do not have because even in the most alternate situations you are still a newby from this dimension.

reply to post by judydawg

Only After Death Will We Understand Completely

I just want to say i disagree with your view that there are only Angels, and Demons, not ghost. I wanna ask what makes you believe that all ghostly encounters are either Demons, or Angels? I've seen, and have read many stories about family members appearing in a ghostly form, to either inform by way of a message, inform in general, or to protect the family member from various things. I am a Christian, and i do believe ghost are real, and i can give evidence even from a biblical perspective, and will give the chapter, and the verse for what i'm about to explain. There are three passages, so far, that I have found from the bible that talk about ghost, or spirits, aside from Angels, and Demons. Angels, and Demons do exist, but so do the common spirit, or ghost. 1 Samuel: Chapter 28 Verse 3-20 ; King Saul seeks the spirit of Samuel through a medium. Mark: Chapter 6 Verse 49 ; This verse explains how the disciples of Jesus were fearful when they saw Jesus walking on water, because at first glance, they imagined they were seeing a ghost. It even says ghost in the scripture. Job: Chapter 4 Verse 15 ; Describes how Eliphaz, after a night terror, encounters a spirit who relays a message, and the appearance of the spirit even makes the hairs on the back of his neck stand on end. Ghost do exist, and are even found in the bible, not to mention all of the worldly evidence that has been documented. My belief stands, and for obvious reasons. I've found evidence in the Bible, and elsewhere throughout this world. Knowing the truth of ghost, does not in fact shake my faith. I've simply come to the conclusion that even after death, God still grants us free will, and in that free will, we can choose to stay, for various reasons, or move on to the gates of Heaven to either be let in, or declined admission. I believe spirits can stay as long as they want, but will be forced to move on when the rapture happens. I respectfully disagree with your belief that only Angels, and Demons exist, and that ghost do not exist. I'm not looking for an argument, I just wanted to lay out what I have found from the scriptures of the Bible.

Could have been a 'demon'. I would advise to never tell this story to anyone in person. Get it out of your system here on ATS

reply to post by lambs to lions


Regardless of what "it" is, it is definitely not friendly & appears to have every intention of facilitating chaos. That at the very least should be a fair warning that there are far more dangerous and/or powerful entities that exist in the multiverse than man.

Thanks for sharing your story, lambs to lions. I believe that you are free from much of what plagued you before & your experiences will keep you stronger when worse may arrive with any incoming spiritual storms.