Nibiru and the Anunnaki

reply to post by Mufcutcakeyumyum


[laughter], that he is a paid agent from the new world government. The smoke ascended to the clouds and extending itself along the sea upon the shore formed a great mist. The same with the fraud of global warming, that Nibiru is coming to end the world, financed by them mumbo jumbo about

The Annunaki were intriguing but they were wanting something from me that I despised them for. And our governments are planning to drive the world over a cliff indeed.

George Soros probably, failed goofed up part of the human race. and paid and financed by them to make up the mumbo jumbo about Nibiru for the elite and their plans for a world population reduction for 2012 (soon there.) Sitchin may not even be that far back that was probably about the time the elite would be building the deep underground bases.

reply to post by aaaiii

Sorry for the long delay, life can be a, full of, complications.

A mechanical world, well, why not. Today we build our houses with bricks and wood. Yesteryear they were all built with stone. Stone lasts a very long time.

So, why not build a planet, firmament, out of stone? Better that wood or brick lol lol Good point.

reply to post by saiyankev


Yes,I belive it.

If the world were coming to an end in 3 months do you really think that the ruling elite would inform the general public?  If they did it would cause mass hysteria around the world and they, the ruling elite, would not be able to as easily get into protected hiding places.

University scientists are not free thinkers.  They are paid to publish papers supporting the status quo.  Despite this 3 well known scientist at different major universities, according to NASA, have found evidence of another planet in our solar system in the last year.  One found what is called "free roaming" planets that do no revolve around stars and are roughly the size of Jupiter.  These "free roaming planets" outnumber stars by a large factor.  This is straight from NASA's web site.

Then you have identical ancient stories of a planet and two suns and a pole shift from every indigenous culture on Earth.

On top of all this you have a lot of faked (disinformation) in the form of YouTube videos and pictures of "Nibiru.". You also have authentic videos like these which have real videos of Nibiru from multiple sources that look the same.  One of the videos was accidentally filmed by the BBC in a documentary.  See for yourself.

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reply to post by matthewsecret

If the world were coming to an end in 3 months do you really think that the ruling elite would inform the general public? If they did it would cause mass hysteria around the world and they, the ruling elite, would not be able to as easily get into protected hiding places.

If the world were going to end, there would be no point in hiding, would there?

University scientists are not free thinkers. They are paid to publish papers supporting the status quo. Despite this 3 well known scientist at different major universities, according to NASA, have found evidence of another planet in our solar system in the last year. One found what is called "free roaming" planets that do no revolve around stars and are roughly the size of Jupiter. These "free roaming planets" outnumber stars by a large factor. This is straight from NASA's web site.

Setting aside your unfamiliarity with academia, there is no connection between theoretical rogue planets and Nibiru. Nibiru supposedly orbits the Sun with a period of 3,600 ears.

Then you have identical ancient stories of a planet and two suns and a pole shift from every indigenous culture on Earth.

I would be very surprised if you could produce two identical stories about two Suns and a pole shift from different cultures here.

On top of all this you have a lot of faked (disinformation) in the form of YouTube videos and pictures of "Nibiru.". You also have authentic videos like these which have real videos of Nibiru from multiple sources that look the same. One of the videos was accidentally filmed by the BBC in a documentary. See for yourself.

www.youtube.com...
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I agree with you there. The internet is flooded with false claims, lies, hoax videos and so forth. How do the lens flares in the two videos you link to differ from all the other lens flares that people claim are Nibiru?

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The Black Sun in Mesoamerican mythology has many mystical meanings, among them it is connected to the god Quetzalcoatl and his penetration in the Underworld through the west door after his diurnal passage on the sky. For the Mexicas there were two suns, the young Day sun and the ancient sun, the Dark sun. Some scholars regard the mythological Black sun as the ancient female origin of all, it is both tomb and womb. This way, it is the oneness that uniformly integrates unawareness, death, and yet an expectation of fecundity...

At archeological scenes, the Plumed Serpent shows a man with a black sun within a yellow sun. In this manner the spinning of the sun and black sun shows a wheel crossing with a obfuscatory motion where four black rays move out of four yellow rays.[1] According to some authors, these sets of four rays relate to the four cardinal points and the four quarters, they represent the governance held by the gods of human race since its infancy, as well as the annual rotation of the heavens, and the universal rulership portrayed in the great dance called "Mitotiliztli", which reproduces the appearance of a wheel."

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Sounds like a brown dwarf and also perfectly matches with the "Sitchin" translations.

I agree with you there. The internet is flooded with false claims, lies, hoax videos and so forth. How do the lens flares in the two videos you link to differ from all the other lens flares that people claim are Nibiru?

Clearly not lense flair. Watch again. You can see the physical shape of a round body in the sun that some are calling a brown dwarf.

Setting aside your unfamiliarity with academia, there is no connection between theoretical rogue planets and Nibiru. Nibiru supposedly orbits the Sun with a period of 3,600 ears.

Free floating planets are not the same as rogue planets and are no longer theoretical according to scientists at NASA.

"Although free-floating planets have been predicted, they finally have been detected, holding major implications for planetary formation and evolution models,' said Mario Perez, exoplanet program scientist at NASA Headquarters in Washington."

www.jpl.nasa.gov...

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Free floating planets are not the same as rogue planets and are no longer theoretical according to scientists at NASA.

Are you claiming nyrubu to be a free floating planet with a 3600 year orbit?

ETA: I really like this part.

The newfound planets are located at an average approximate distance of 10,000 to 20,000 light-years from Earth. www.jpl.nasa.gov...

Is nyrubu too close to be located by astronomers?

reply to post by matthewsecret

Are you serious? Who do you think are making the under ground cities for the elite? The same people who would not be doing it if they knew the world was going to end... Think about it.

And where are these underground cities, exactly? And if a large body drew near enough to the Earth. it could change the ellipticity of the Earth's orbit, rendering the surface permanently unnihabitable. Why prolong the inevitable?

I am part of "academia" at a major US university in the Physics and Astronomy department so I know very well the mindset and thinking of international University scientists. It's our job and livelyhood we can't afford to be free thinkers.

If you understand physics, why are you even considering this Nibiru prediction hooey?

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Two suns can be found in:

Hopi prophecy:“For over 25 years, I heard the Elders talk about a Day with Two Suns which would signal the start of the new planetary consciosness.” Mary Thunder

The use of the word "planetary"suggests this is not a traditional Hopi teaching. Assuming Mary Thunder is not simply making the whole thing up, she has obviously allowed "New Age"beliefs to color her interpretation.

Biblical: Malachi 4:1and 2

Destruction of the world by fire, as implied by the First Covenant. The Sun of Righteousness sounds metaphorical to me.

Nostradamus:The great star for seven days will burn, The cloud will cause two suns to appear: The big mastiff all night will howl, When the great pontiff changes countries.

Nostradamus'imagery was heraldic in nature. His predictions are never literal.

2214 B.C. - Egyptian writing have been found speaking of Two suns in the sky.

Source, please.

1766 B.C. Shu Ching records speak of two suns fighting in the sky causing mountains to crumble.

1765 B.C. Shu Ching again records two suns.

1054 A.D. An unidentified man from the Chaco society etched a message on a rock that stated when we see two suns in the sky great destruction will come upon the earth.

Source, please.

An ancient depiction of two suns in the sky, carved in stone:
This stone carving (above) was found in Iraq near the ancient city of Babylon (Bagdad). Historians falsely interpret this illustration so I invite you to look at it carefully. There are clearly two suns in the sky and everyone is looking up at them. ...

If you are going to cut and paste, please format it properly anf include a link.

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The following poetic rendering of the appearance of Horus nudges us in the direction of a celestial object appearing miraculously from the depths of space:
"Another myth represented the newborn sun as the child Horus rising from a lotus bloom that expanded its leaves on the breast of the primordial deep" (2)
Yet Horus is not itself identified with our Sun, as many Egyptologists claim, but is both a stellar and solar son of Isis, who is represented by Sirius.

The Egyptologists have once again reduced everything down to the Sun, which is their standard way of analyzing ancient Egyptian mythology. Yet, if the Egyptians were describing two ‘Suns’, one the life-giver, Ra; the other a dark, hidden ‘sun', Horus, then the myths begin to become more clear.

Horus can be identified as a ‘sun’ that is born out of Sirius, appearing periodically from the primordial deep. Its appearance is momentous, marking the passing of an era.
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Again, if you are going to cut and paste, please format properly and include a link. That's part of the Terms & Conditions. (T&C)

You can also see "two suns" in most of the country flags of the world.

Provide an example of one. Many have stars, many have a crescent Moon, but only a few have a stylized Sun. When the Sun appears, there is only one.

reply to post by matthewsecret

Hopi prophecy:“For over 25 years, I heard the Elders talk about a Day with Two Suns which would signal the start of the new planetary consciosness.” Mary Thunder

Your source is Mary Thunder? Hahahahahahahahahaha. She's one of the most blatant frauds out there. Let's ignore for the moment that she has no Native American blood or connections. She claims to be Cheyenne and raised by the Lakota. Why would she have knowledge of Hopi prophecies? If you want to hear the opinion of actual Native Americans in regard to Mary Thunder I suggest you check out this thread.

Any Words on Mary Thunder?

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I think you are mistaking me for your errand boy. You can't afford my retainer, trust me. You also don't have the qualifications or reputaion to debate Physics with me. Next.

You said to find similar stories about two suns, so I did. If you have a specific requirement you need to state it upfront, not ask for something then narrow your rules after the fact. That's just pathetic.

I'm saying that the idea of Nibiru is not impossible, based on facts from NASA. And having video evidence makes it worth investigation, not being scoffed off by amateur wannabe know-it-alls.

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I think you are mistaking me for your errand boy. You can't afford my retainer, trust me. You also don't have the qualifications or reputaion to debate Physics with me. Next.

You have a grand total of six posts here. You are in no position to make this statement.

You said to find similar stories about two suns, so I did. If you have a specific requirement you need to state it upfront, not ask for something then narrow your rules after the fact. That's just pathetic.

Please read the Terms and Conditions of use before you embarrass yourself further.

I'm saying that the idea of Nibiru is not impossible, based on facts from NASA. And having video evidence makes it worth investigation, not being scoffed off by amateur wannabe know-it-alls.

If you were really a physicist, you would know that statement is not true for three separate reasons. Please read the T&C and adjust your attitude.

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So you claim to be a professional scientist but refuse to provide sources? You must have trouble getting papers published.

Originally posted by matthewsecret

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I think you are mistaking me for your errand boy. You can't afford my retainer, trust me. You also don't have the qualifications or reputaion to debate Physics with me. Next.

You said to find similar stories about two suns, so I did. If you have a specific requirement you need to state it upfront, not ask for something then narrow your rules after the fact. That's just pathetic.

I'm saying that the idea of Nibiru is not impossible, based on facts from NASA. And having video evidence makes it worth investigation, not being scoffed off by amateur wannabe know-it-alls.

I see a LOT of bragging here, with absolutely nothing to back it up.

It's also against the T&C's to claim to be someone you are not:

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Sourcing your claims or information is not making yourself an "Errand Boy" as you so quaintly put it. It's used to support your statements and posts. Refusing to source your information simply takes whatever you have said and turns it automatically into your opinion. Not fact.

And opinions are like belly buttons: everyone has one. :shrug:

So far all you have done is made claims that you are refusing to source, and claimed to be a person involved in academia on the university level. A real person involved in academia would know better than to state something without sources to back it up.

You've claimed that you know more about physics than a poster here, and have tried to paint yourself as an important person. Again, without any proof of this at all. That is a fine example of pretending to be someone you are not.

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reply to post by matthewsecret

Clearly not lense flair. Watch again. You can see the physical shape of a round body in the sun that some are calling a brown dwarf.

You must be referring to this video that you linked


The "object" IN the Sun appears around 1:38 into the video. Who is calling THIS a brown dwarf? It is a black ring, not even a solid black dot. The Sun is clearly visible through the ring. Would you argue for this being a brown dwarf shining like the Sun? That would be quite a discovery.

These two videos presented as "evidence" for nibiru are quite simply absurd. The attempt to use free roaming planets as an explanation for nibiru seems absurd as well. Simultaneously arguing free roaming, as if this would be it's first encounter with our solar system, while mentioning Sitchin and presenting a video that both claim a 3600 year orbit for nibiru. Have you thought this through?

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

reply to post by DenyObfuscation


hey that clear black dot is part of his computer program he was doing to locate whatever he is trying to point out.
He was talking about the object and minute mark 2:14. I dont have any opinion on the subject just thought i would point that out.

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hey that clear black dot is part of his computer program he was doing to locate whatever he is trying to point out.

No argument here.

He was talking about the object and minute mark 2:14.

Dont think so.
That "object" is beside the Sun. He clearly said IN the Sun.

Clearly not lense flair. Watch again. You can see the physical shape of a round body in the sun that some are calling a brown dwarf.

I have to go by what he said. If "in" the Sun means off "beside" the Sun to him, then communication is nearly impossible.

Originally posted by matthewsecret

"The Black Sun in Mesoamerican mythology has many mystical meanings, among them it is connected to the god Quetzalcoatl and his penetration in the Underworld through the west door after his diurnal passage on the sky. For the Mexicas there were two suns, the young Day sun and the ancient sun, the Dark sun. Some scholars regard the mythological Black sun as the ancient female origin of all, it is both tomb and womb. This way, it is the oneness that uniformly integrates unawareness, death, and yet an expectation of fecundity...

Sounds like a brown dwarf and also perfectly matches with the "Sitchin" translations.

edit on 27-9-2012 by matthewsecret because: Add more info

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