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The bible-alien doings or analogies

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posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 02:27 AM
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It is to hard to know. To me religion doesn't really mean anything I think it is just a way people get away from the world. The bible seems like stories and just stories to make people fear something and make them do good acts and if they aren't stories then it must be alien doings. Comment...



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 02:35 AM
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What were these good acts people do, you talk about. The bible states people are for the most part evil, doing horrible things.
Must be a different book to mine.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 02:37 AM
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post by KylePROxAlienator
To me religion doesn't really mean anything

Yet this is the Second thread you've started on religion in this forum , which used to be about Aliens and UFOs but now seems to be becoming an Aliens and God forum



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posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 02:38 AM
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There is loads of information on this just do a search.




and if they aren't stories then it must be alien doings


Thats a big leap you've takin there lol



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 02:42 AM
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Yes the bible does state horrible things but in the end it's happy.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 03:02 AM
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Where are you from OP ? It's not an off topic question It's the only way I can really understand this post.

Where are you from ?



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 03:07 AM
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Well either way - be they gods or aliens - they are still stories about creatures who are not of our species, and not of our world.

As such there is a conflict of interests, or not?



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 03:25 AM
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As such there is a conflict of interests, or not?

No , Christians believe that Aliens are Demons not different species from other planets . the reason they believe this is due to their belief in the Bible , therefor those threads should go in the religion or Metaphysical forums .

Non religious people are not limited by that constraint and see that Aliens are other species from other planets that use nuts and bolts spacecraft to travel the Galaxy , blissfully unaware of our human belief structures and the fact that some here perceive them as mythical creatures .

There are religious forums on ATS where these Aliens are Demons beliefs can be discussed but instead the religious feel the need to come here and preach to us their "Truth" and warn us of falling for the "Great Deception" of Satan and his minions .





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posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 03:36 AM
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All true, but as a basic divide gods, demons and aliens are all not of our species or world.

Hence they should all be mistrusted, because their interests are not necessarily ours, even when they claim in many stories that that they are, with promises and threats.


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posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 04:41 AM
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Originally posted by gortex
reply to post by halfoldman
 

"Christians believe that Aliens are Demons..." "due to their belief in the Bible".

Where in the Bible does it say that Aliens are Demons?

If you are abducted it really won't matter WHAT you call them, what matters is WHO you call. NEVER forget that these things bow to one name and one name only: Jesus.


"His abduction started out typically, I.E., late at night, in bed. He was lying in bed, kept wide awake by the barking dogs, when paralysis set in. He was unable to cry out. His Wife didn’t waken. The next thing he knew, he was being levitated above his bed. He then had the sensation he was being suspended by what felt like a pole inserted into his rectum. By this time, he was alive with terror, but he couldn’t scream.

"I thought I was having a Satanic experience; that the devil had gotten a hold of me and had shoved a pole up my rectum and was holding me up in the air... So helpless, I couldn't do anything. I said, 'Jesus, Jesus, help me!' or 'Jesus, Jesus, Jesus!' When I did, there was a feeling or a sound or something that either my words that I thought or the words that I had tried to say or whatever, had hurt whatever was holding me up in the air on this pole. And I felt like it was withdrawn and I fell. I hit the bed, because it was like I was thrown back in bed. I really can't tell, but when I did, my wife woke up and asked why I was jumping on the bed."

"This man was able to stop his abduction. To stop an abduction was something they had never heard of, and this gentleman did it by calling upon the name of Jesus. This particular case was astounding." LINK


Originally posted by Victoria Ecouter
"I had contact for years with what I thought were alien beings. The more I "believed" the more they disrupted my life. I went for months getting only a few hours of sleep a night. It got so bad that I was waking up with night terrors and things probing me for almost a month straight."

"A turning point for me occurred when I had a conversation with one of these beings. I said that it didn't have the right to do this and it replied that it did. I knew then that this was not a benign creature in any sense of the word. I was agnostic at the time. So I decided to pray to God to help me. The "abductions" and "visitations" stopped immediately"


Alien abductions halted by the name 'Jesus' why?

"It has dawned on me after 4 years of looking through this that abductee's have stopped these experience when calling upon the name of Jesus or god. These apparent inter-dimensional entities seem to vanish. WHY is this? They have never done the same under any other names or pleads? Very interesting to see how effective this is. Blows their apparent agenda and purpose out of the water. LINK


Over 100 Online Testimonies that Alien Abductions Stop and Can Be Terminated as a Life Pattern In the Name and Authority of Jesus Christ. The Most Powerful Evidence in the World Today Showing the True Nature of the Entities Behind the UFO / Alien Abduction Phenomenon LINK


Well-known UFO researcher John Weldon said, “How creditable is it to think that literally thousands of genuine extraterrestrials would fly millions of light years simply to teach new age philosophy, deny Christianity, and support the occult? And why would the entities actually possess and inhabit people just like demons do if they were really advanced extraterrestrials?”Source



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 05:10 AM
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Considering that Jesus's real name was Jeshua or Jeheshua according to increasing numbers of Christians, then why would they bow down to "Jesus", when that could be a Mexican gardener?

Perhaps the demons can pretend to be aliens that pretend to bow down at this false "Jesus", so that Christians would be misled to follow a wrong name, and a Jesus who is really Satan in disguise.

How do you know?

If there's power in the Biblical figure's name, then what was His real name?
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posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 07:46 AM
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Most, if not all of these "abductions" were probably made-up stories to proselytize the heathens using fear. Hell wasn't working so well, so we'll try demonic aliens instead. So naturally, the name of Jesus is a cure all in these stories.

But lets just say they were real to the person experiencing it at the time. Belief can be a powerful thing. For the Christian, the belief in Jesus. For the Muslim, Allah. For the democrat, Obama.


Whatever name you put your faith in, will stop the abduction. Jesus is one among many.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by gortex
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As such there is a conflict of interests, or not?

No , Christians believe that Aliens are Demons not different species from other planets . the reason they believe this is due to their belief in the Bible , therefor those threads should go in the religion or Metaphysical forums .

Non religious people are not limited by that constraint and see that Aliens are other species from other planets that use nuts and bolts spacecraft to travel the Galaxy , blissfully unaware of our human belief structures and the fact that some here perceive them as mythical creatures .

There are religious forums on ATS where these Aliens are Demons beliefs can be discussed but instead the religious feel the need to come here and preach to us their "Truth" and warn us of falling for the "Great Deception" of Satan and his minions .


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Just because some in the Jew/Christians and Islam are afraid of everything unknown and see anything they cant understand as evil do not mean all religoins are anti aliens. Buddish make no difference of what speices you are and see all life as souls evolving. Hindusim have old stories about aliens that seemed according to them have been here. Do not put all religous views on trail just because some people are in fear of the unknow. If a person is a true christian he/she should know the idea of loving your neighbour and that includes helping souls (even aliens) who have ended up in a bad place to get to a more harmonious and loving behaviours.

To tell you the thruth most people have already fallen to beliving in service to self and a pushing of their egos at the cost of other people so I do not understand why they are afraid of aliens as the threat when they can look at the ego (the manifistation of the devil) in the mirror and not understand that their behaviour is probably the real threat against them achiving happiness.

In a way we can say many human souls have always been fallen since they have never been able to rise above their ego to be allowed to leave this place.
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