Strange 'event' off the Eastern Coast of Sicily.

reply to post by silo13


Hi Silo13,
aka Joe Offgrid here again. My friend just emailed me something that you may not have noticed when you took the photos. The "trail" to the right of your third arrow happens to have more than what we are seeing. He checked your photo in more detail by turning it into a negative image, increased the size of the area in question, circled the "possible object" and increased the brightness slighly. No other alterations were made and can be checked yourself through any photo editor using your original photo.




I hope I did that right, this is my first time adding a photo to a comment.
Now what the object is is yet unknown. Missile? May be, its hard to tell in your original image and in this negitive image. So I will leave it up to you and the other readers to figure it out and draw your/their own conclusions.

I have read this thread and i dont think there is any doubt in my mind that those are Rocket or Missile trails , they are not water spouts ...

reply to post by akaJoeOffgrid

As has been pointed out, it's called a tailslide.

Come on people...there is an AIR SHOW today in the area.

If you have ever been near a large air show, you would know that all the planes practice the days before the air show.

Originally posted by cavtrooper7
Missile launches.That is what I see.

That's what I see as well.

Originally posted by axslinger

Originally posted by cavtrooper7
Missile launches.That is what I see.

That's what I see as well.

I would be interested in knowing what kind of missile has that sort of trail as a signature.
Whatever it was traveled parallel to the ocean surface, then performed a vertical climb which turned into a loop. Then, whatever it was rolled out at the end of the loop and proceeded on in horizontal flight again.

That sure fits with what aerobatic planes flown by a stunt pilot would do, but not with any missiles that I am familiar with.

Probly nothing, but a Fighter Jet just zipped past my house! Taking off from Tallahassee airport. We get trainers here quite a bit, and there are a lot of touch and goes by big military craft in training, but I've never heard one take off this time of night before, and not zipping out of here the way that one was! Either he just remembered he's supposed to be somewhere, or he got called out somewhere. Seemed to be a single one though, that makes me think it was a joyride, LOL!

reply to post by silo13


What direction from Sicily were these? Nevermind...helps if I read first. East got it,

Look like missles to me too.

reply to post by Erectus

Welcome to ATS!

I hope you enjoy your stay!

3. It could also be smoke plumes from possible small open vents. The area you circled on the map happens to be close to the Hyblean Escarpment Fault line to the east and the Pernicana Fault line to the north. Some small vents may have opened in the ocean floor causing some of the smoke plumes and the sounds. Sicily lies totally on the Eurasian plate, although right on its boundary with the African plate. The African plate is subducting under the Eurasian plate. A small sudden shift may have caused both the sound and the smoke plumes.
Did you happen to feel any small vibrations when this event happened? If so, then its possible that a small earthquake caused the small vents to open releasing the smoke plumes and the sound.
I hope this opinion is of some help, you may want to look into those options listed above for further information.

This has great possibility - thank you.

The area in question has revealed some vents in the past. There have been small EQ's keeping things hopping for days now. Also, Mt. Etna is always active and the area where the first series of pics were taken? There used to be an old lava flow in that same direct area.

So yes, there's a great possibility what your saying is true - along with a heft coincidence with the 'practice' for the air show to confuse the issue.

Interesting though - the practice? If that's what it was? So much more fantastical than the actual show. Yeah, interesting that.

peace

Hmm.. it took some pondering, but what You observerd were three jets flying low, pulling up sharply, 7 or 8 g's, and igniting the afterburners. After the sharp pull, the pilot shuts-off the afterburner (because they gobble fuel like mad) and tries to get above the clouds as fast as possible, so it appears to suddenly disappear. The trail of the after-burner, and the puff of the shut-down will linger for quite some time.

Believe me afterburners sound like the god of thunder re-incarnated, and can only be used on registered practices, because they violate about every noise-regulation outside air-force bases.

The low flying and pulling-up, is a classic maneuvre to spoof coastal radar stations. I.E. Come-in very VERY low, so the defence missiles cannot trace the plane, drop anti-radar missiles, pull up sharply and accellerate like the devil is on Your heels, to evade eventual AA gun placements.
Flying very low above the water dampens the noise of the jet-engine significatly, especially when the waves are a tad choppy.

Choppy waves tend to act a bit like the egg-carton shaped foam stuff one finds on the walls of recording studio's.

First one only hears the very low frequencies( the rumbling You noticed), because the chop dampens and scatters the higher frequencies quite effectively. When the jet gets above a certain height, the sound seems to "suddenly" explode towards the observers. Scaring the heebies out of the unaware.(also a favourite tactics to "smoke-out" unfriendlies. The noise-pressure of after-burners is SO high, that people lose their coordination for a moment. Successfully demonstrated by the Dutch airforce when trains got hi-jacked at Wijster in the 70's... look it up!)

Of course they cannot really fire anti-radar missiles, so they simulate it. The pilots and the controllers only see a red dot and hear a "beep" ... bit boring, actually..

(I was stationed at an air-force basis when in the service)

ps: forgot to mention. For demo's and shows, they inject diesel in the exhaust, making for great, fat smoke. Stinks like bad oil lamps, though.

Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by Erectus

 

Welcome to ATS!

I hope you enjoy your stay!

3. It could also be smoke plumes from possible small open vents. The area you circled on the map happens to be close to the Hyblean Escarpment Fault line to the east and the Pernicana Fault line to the north. Some small vents may have opened in the ocean floor causing some of the smoke plumes and the sounds. Sicily lies totally on the Eurasian plate, although right on its boundary with the African plate. The African plate is subducting under the Eurasian plate. A small sudden shift may have caused both the sound and the smoke plumes.
Did you happen to feel any small vibrations when this event happened? If so, then its possible that a small earthquake caused the small vents to open releasing the smoke plumes and the sound.
I hope this opinion is of some help, you may want to look into those options listed above for further information.

This has great possibility - thank you.

The area in question has revealed some vents in the past. There have been small EQ's keeping things hopping for days now. Also, Mt. Etna is always active and the area where the first series of pics were taken? There used to be an old lava flow in that same direct area.

So yes, there's a great possibility what your saying is true - along with a heft coincidence with the 'practice' for the air show to confuse the issue.

Interesting though - the practice? If that's what it was? So much more fantastical than the actual show. Yeah, interesting that.

peace

ya finally,,lol

u believe all that other crap ,,lol

Originally posted by dutchmilpo
Hmm.. it took some pondering, but what You observerd were three jets flying low, pulling up sharply, 7 or 8 g's, and igniting the afterburners. After the sharp pull, the pilot shuts-off the afterburner (because they gobble fuel like mad) and tries to get above the clouds as fast as possible, so it appears to suddenly disappear. The trail of the after-burner, and the puff of the shut-down will linger for quite some time.

Believe me afterburners sound like the god of thunder re-incarnated, and can only be used on registered practices, because they violate about every noise-regulation outside air-force bases.

The low flying and pulling-up, is a classic maneuvre to spoof coastal radar stations. I.E. Come-in very VERY low, so the defence missiles cannot trace the plane, drop anti-radar missiles, pull up sharply and accellerate like the devil is on Your heels, to evade eventual AA gun placements.
Flying very low above the water dampens the noise of the jet-engine significatly, especially when the waves are a tad choppy.

Choppy waves tend to act a bit like the egg-carton shaped foam stuff one finds on the walls of recording studio's.

First one only hears the very low frequencies( the rumbling You noticed), because the chop dampens and scatters the higher frequencies quite effectively. When the jet gets above a certain height, the sound seems to "suddenly" explode towards the observers. Scaring the heebies out of the unaware.(also a favourite tactics to "smoke-out" unfriendlies. The noise-pressure of after-burners is SO high, that people lose their coordination for a moment. Successfully demonstrated by the Dutch airforce when trains got hi-jacked at Wijster in the 70's... look it up!)

Of course they cannot really fire anti-radar missiles, so they simulate it. The pilots and the controllers only see a red dot and hear a "beep" ... bit boring, actually..

(I was stationed at an air-force basis when in the service)

ps: forgot to mention. For demo's and shows, they inject diesel in the exhaust, making for great, fat smoke. Stinks like bad oil lamps, though.

edit on 11/6/12 by dutchmilpo because: addendum

Here is your answer, Silo. Not everything is conspiracy. It's great that you got out your camera and took pics and whatnot, and furthermore proves the validity of what Dutchmilpo has explained. I'm assuming everything is back to normal and it was only even that one occurance, am I correct? If so, again, what he said.

reply to post by silo13


I take it that you have never seen the Italian Air Force Aerobatic team Frecce Tricolori display? I've seen them countless of times and your images and video is exactly how parts of their routine would appear as viewed from a distance. Obviously to those unfamiliar with their manoeuvres they could misinterpret them as 'missile launches'. It has all to do with the smoke on and off during the lengthy display.

The following is from someone that filmed the entire practice display from the shore crowd line on 9th June.

Watch from 02:36 and note what happens! At around 02:55 you can see the main formation descending. At 02:59 you can see either a singleton or group rising to intersect where the main formation peeled off. After that manoeuvre the smoke remains in the vertical.

Now watch what happens at 03:36. The singleton starts climbing to perform the tail slide. Note the vertical plume from the previous 02:36 manoeuvre in the background.



See the other parts of the practice session and note the vertical manoeuvres and the resultant smoke off. All those from a distance can be misinterpreted as 'missile launch plumes'



Watch from 04:28 on the above video when part of the formation (4 aircraft) go vertical. The smoke is turned off at around 04:35 and fades out.

Watch from 07:55 start of the solo aircraft going vertical. The smoke goes off at 08:04 and the aircraft descends to reposition.



All you have to do is contact the camerperson and verify the times of the footage.

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by silo13


You also have to take into account all the aircraft enthusiasts and spectators in the town for the practice and the actual airshow. Do you not find it strange that people gathering or waiting for the practice didn't film your 'strange' event? The only thing that they filmed was the airshow practice and didn't interpret it as anything else. All that has happened here is that you have filmed a fairly routine event from a distance and interpreted it with the mindset of a conspiracy enthusiast. Another enthusiast that filmed the Frecci practice on the 9th June albeit with a bit of a dodgy camera.

Video link

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reply to post by TheGrandWarlock

I agree they are most likely offshore eruptions especially being so close to Etna, nothing on the wires yet I can't help but think there will be some sort of explanation coming from officials soon given the strange plumes and the description of the sounds that coincided with them.

reply to post by tommyjo

Do you not find it strange that people gathering or waiting for the practice didn't film your 'strange' event?

I would have found it strange if any of those 'people in town' took the time out of their lovely vacations to post something as they saw it - yes. And really - if they were expecting to 'see' a practice run? That's all they would have seen. It's called the human condition.

Now - after the fact? Different story. I'll take a look at the videos.

I take it that you have never seen the Italian Air Force Aerobatic team Frecce Tricolori display?

Then you'd be wrong.

For now? I'll leave it at this.

What I (originally) saw and heard was not similar enough to the 'air show' (a day later) to convince me the only thing I witnessed was a 'practice run'. I've enough respect and confidence in my own experience to stick with just that.

Thanks for taking the time to post the videos. I'll let you know what I think.

peace

That would be freaky to see that

reply to post by silo13


Hey there! I saw the very same thing near where I live which is south-west of Melbourne, Australia.
I will put a picture up but the story goes that I was out for a walk when I spotted this. It intrigued me quite alot because it was slowly moving with the wind but kept its formation. Ive never seen anything like it before. My initial thought was that it was a meteorite but there was nothing in the news about it. I always keep an eye out for the clouds around me and it just didn't fit. Sorry about the bad quality pictures but it looked exactly like your good quality pictures and I have complete faith saying that it is the exact same thing. Here are the pics

(If the link doesn't work give us a yell.)

For everyone saying missile, I say that I don't quite think that is possible because this was over a well housed suburban area and military testing is not within 10kms of that area. And for everyone saying water spout, that's impossible in my circumstance because there just isnt any decent bodies of water in that area in which i spotted it. We only have a river and paddock dams which are alot further out of town then where this 'cloud pillar' was located. I dont recall any sound prior to seeing it though. Probably coz I was talking too much lol

On that note, I have seen 3 UFO's in the last couple of months and my friends witnessed other sightings that were not the same UFO sightings as I. Another odd thing is that shortly (a week or 2) after seeing this pillar cloud thing, we had extreme 'wave clouds' that were covering the whole sky, in perfect alignment and lasted for hours slowly traveling north-east in the night time. It was dead quiet all around and eerie, so eerie I made everyone come outside to see and experience it. Alot of people are saying this is from HAARP which there is a HAARP facility in Western Australia in Exmouth and by the looks of YouTube there could be one in Antarctica? Which from where this Antarctic base is, it is south-west from where I am, which could explain the wave clouds moving north-east? I drew a little map.. .

I really dont know, just trying to figure it out, but here is a link on the Antarctic Base if interested, www.youtube.com...
Not saying these things are tied together but that is what has been happening over here.

Dont know if this has anything to do with anything, but we are getting really strange weather in Australia.
This is us over the past week and not to mention all the other strange weather events that have been happening since that 'cloud pillar' thing...

Within the last week...
14m waves in Sydney - www.smh.com.au...
m.smh.com.au...

Perth Tornadoes and Storms - img.ibtimes.com...
www.heraldsun.com.au...
www.theaustralian.com.au...

Victoria Floods - www.heraldsun.com.au...

Could there possibly be a link? That's the question. Thanks for sharing this, never thought i would have come across someone else that is half a world away to be seeing the same thing. Amazing!

All you have to do is link up the time frame with the people that filmed the Frecce practice on the 9th. Also do you not think that other people would have witnessed your 'strange event' notified the local press and reported it? You report noise and rumblings? There is a reason why Rolls Royce Vipers are restricted at some airports - they are noisy beasts and especially 10 of them. Things going skyward as you described and filmed are not going to go unreported from the town shoreline and also with the spectators and enthusiasts gathering for the event.


Your post shows exactly how people can get deceived by what they think they are seeing. Again where is the reports in the local media? Have you contacted them and presented your video and images? Many observers on viewing the thread and seeing the videos from the shoreline will see exactly what you witnessed from a distance. It is the smoke on/off during the Frecce display that gave you the impression of 'missiles' or 'plumes' rocketing into the sky over a period of seconds. Your version of events is a classic example of people misinterpreting and jumping to incorrect conclusions. The conclusive proof is contacting the Italians that filmed it and linking up your times on camera/video. It is the distance involved that has fooled you into making your assessment.

reply to post by wahbeagle1

I'm still going through the info you presented.

Thank you! Wow - what a post! It's going to take me a while but I will get back to you.

Very interesting stuff. Very.

peace