Chinese Media Issues Warning on US Military Shift

reply to post by stuthealien


So,humans should be moved off this planet?
How do you propose to get rid of all the people?
What would be your contribution to 'removing'
all the people?

reply to post by SUICIDEHK45

Chinese state media warned Tuesday, that Washington's planned military shift towards the Asia-Pacific threatens to create rifts between the two countries and may upset regional stability

Create rifts?

Seriously, where?

This sounds like more rhetoric for Chinese internal consumption. Having said that. I'll ask again. Create rifts where? The US Asian-Pacific allies include, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines [Many Filipinos have close family ties in the US]. Vietnam [believe it or not] are aligned with the US against Chinese aggression in the South China sea.

Whose on their side of this creating rifts? Oh wait yeah it's kind of a real threat to the region...

North Korea, Which has developed Nuclear weapons also who keeps shooting off their crappy rockets across other countries not to mention who shelled their Southern neighbor and have sunk one of South Korea's Naval vessels.

China should look in the mirror and think long and hard about which side is creating rifts and supporting instability in the region...


Now with regards to stuthealien and wanting to Nuke a country.

I'd avoid dark alleys.

reply to post by mamabeth


well for the planet to replenish,relocation is the most humane
extermination being the quickest however a thousand breeding pairs of all races would need to be secured for future zoo breeding programs ,ivf would be used so as to iliminate conception problems,if this was the only option viable..
i dont think we currently have the resources to relocate the entire human race sad i know so that leaves one option breeding pairs,i have been studying growing food crops in space,i would gladly offer my services,however this is a beautifull world and we have no right to have done what we have so if i should be killed to save the planet so be it.

reply to post by stuthealien


Nature seems to take care of the over population problems
on this planet already.Have you heard of the term,bottle neck?

This is the way China works. You have one guy saying China welcomes US foreces in a contructive role into the region and then another saying its wrong. Why you ask? Because more US forces in the region are of benefit to China so long as they only provide a sense of security for the other nations in the region and do not encourage them to get more agressive with China. China does not and will not have the abliity to challenge the US anytime in the near future. China knows this, so instead works on becoming the dominate regional power. This of course scares all the other nations in the Pacific. So they go to the US and ask for more support, If the US were deny more support then the nations in the region would begin a massive arms race. Now China would be facing lots of heavily armed neighbors who would not only be a threat to China directly but also a threat to each other indirectly threatening China by disrupting trade routes with petty conflicts. China would much prefer dealing with one power like the US they already have good ties with and who will also work in Chinas best interest by keeping sea routes open and safe for trade. Once you step beyond the rhetoric it is easy to see China benefits by the presence of US forces and they know it.

Originally posted by stuthealien
reply to post by mamabeth

 

well for the planet to replenish,relocation is the most humane
extermination being the quickest however a thousand breeding pairs of all races would need to be secured for future zoo breeding programs ,ivf would be used so as to iliminate conception problems,if this was the only option viable..
i dont think we currently have the resources to relocate the entire human race sad i know so that leaves one option breeding pairs,i have been studying growing food crops in space,i would gladly offer my services,however this is a beautifull world and we have no right to have done what we have so if i should be killed to save the planet so be it.

With everything you have posted in this thread I have to ask these questions, I cant help myself. I wan't to know how nuking countries could possibly replenish this planet? If you are so concerned about prolonging the planet and everything on it apart from humans, why would you want to see the USA nuked? Do you actually think this will speed the process or something? The planet is a self correcting system. Whether we are here or not, it will replenish itself. We need to worry about what we are possibly doing to each other, you know, Nukes are stuff which will affect everything and anything we use, eat, drink. It won't hurt the planet, the planet can live with it, it will hurt us...

For all you ANTI- AMERICAN (TROLLS) out there................This ones for you...............

Saber rattling is all i hear the "shift" will take years and the 60% should be complete by 2020 and of course that is if we still have a military after all those automatic budget cuts and other known problems.

Think the funny part is here that China themselves is funding the transfer with all their buying of Treasuries.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by SUICIDEHK45

 

Chinese state media warned Tuesday, that Washington's planned military shift towards the Asia-Pacific threatens to create rifts between the two countries and may upset regional stability

Create rifts?

Seriously, where?

This sounds like more rhetoric for Chinese internal consumption. Having said that. I'll ask again. Create rifts where? The US Asian-Pacific allies include, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines [Many Filipinos have close family ties in the US]. Vietnam [believe it or not] are aligned with the US against Chinese aggression in the South China sea.

Whose on their side of this creating rifts? Oh wait yeah it's kind of a real threat to the region...

North Korea, Which has developed Nuclear weapons also who keeps shooting off their crappy rockets across other countries not to mention who shelled their Southern neighbor and have sunk one of South Korea's Naval vessels.

China should look in the mirror and think long and hard about which side is creating rifts and supporting instability in the region...


Now with regards to stuthealien and wanting to Nuke a country.

I'd avoid dark alleys.

edit on 5-6-2012 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)

So you are not pro-Hiroshima now? I told you it would bite you. You cannot justify a nuke.

Now you know very well that the US is creating rifts. They have been stirring up the Phillipinos amongst other things.

North Korea is a non-issue. You obviously have no idea of regional politics.

Please explain to me why you are defending your government?
Do you honestly think that America has the right to stir up tensions in the Asia Pacific?

edit- and it YOU. YOU that we all should be angry with because you cheerlead and encourage your monster of a Government. You.

edit- and why do you seem to spend soo much time defending your government? Is the Asia-Pacific something you feel strongly about? Really?


A map.

Originally posted by stuthealien
hope some one nukes america ,china is the poor persons friend

How the hell are the replies to this post being marked as off-topic while you mods let this one remain?????

This is the biggest bunch of BS I have seen on ATS. This insensitive poster is calling for the death of millions and yet it's remaining on the board.

What's even more sick is that there are stars being applied.

I get it, people hate America for what our government has allowed us to become. However, what makes you any better for calling for the death of humans??? It makes me literally sick!

You do realize that there are people from all over the world both living and studying here, right?

I doubt China has tried to call in the debt, but I can guarantee, if there were to be a war between China and USA, China would flood the market with $1 trillion US in hard currency they are estimated to have, and crash the US dollar and the economy in 24 - 48 hours.

If they did this in combination with a massive cyber attack, the USA would be crippled before the Government could even know what was going on.

Yippee Kay Yay.

reply to post by freakjive


I have read Americans calling for North Korea to be nuked. I have read Americans calling for Iran to be nuked. I have read Americans calling for Israel to be nuked. I have read Americans calling for China to be nuked. Nobody ever seems too worried.

I wish you Americans were behind us Aussies. We live in the Asia Pacific. There is no problem here. You guys should not be defending your government.

Think about it. The Asia Pacific? WTH. There is no problem here.The only problem is the US Military trying to annoy China.

Originally posted by neo96
Saber rattling is all i hear the "shift" will take years and the 60% should be complete by 2020 and of course that is if we still have a military after all those automatic budget cuts and other known problems.

Think the funny part is here that China themselves is funding the transfer with all their buying of Treasuries.

edit on 5-6-2012 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

If you believe budget cuts in USA will actually occur in the military, I have an only slightly leaky British Submarine to sell you.

reply to post by SUICIDEHK45


Nothing more than " Sabre rattling " that has always gone on between the Superpowers.

Much ado about nothing, in my humble opinion.....

reply to post by sonnny1

I find your post ,arrogant,and insensitive,for the victims of 911,and those who died tragically that day.These type of posts are indicative,of hatred.PERIOD.

They attacked those buildings because of our meddling and attacking people in the middle east. Did you feel sorry for the people that the USA attacked prior to 9/11?

reply to post by SUICIDEHK45


China has put out propaganda of this nature for as long as I can remember. You could find a statement like this almost every day. This stuff is for the population of China to keep them under control by diverting their attention. Don't forget that half the population of China is still on the edge of starvation and completely left out of the current prosperity. Winners and Losers are hand picked under that Dictatorship.

Since China is not Free by any stretch of the imagination they must keep up the propaganda war to stop the masses from realizing they could be Free. All they need to do is realize that no government can stand up to a united people and the Dictators at the top are toast.

Since they were shamed into releasing that blind activist and freedom fighter, they will likely step up the propaganda for internal consumption to divert attention. What better way than to try and make them angry at the evil Free Americans. Life is so much better when the State completely controls you even if half of them live on $2 a day.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by sonnny1

 

I find your post ,arrogant,and insensitive,for the victims of 911,and those who died tragically that day.These type of posts are indicative,of hatred.PERIOD.

They attacked those buildings because of our meddling and attacking people in the middle east. Did you feel sorry for the people that the USA attacked prior to 9/11?

Not even close to being accurate.

They attacked us on more than one occasion because there were infidels in the holy lands,Saudi Arabia.

The last decade of war is because of Clinton's inaction and recognition that "radical islam" was at war with the US for decades.

From the first world trade center attack,the kobar towers,Beirut embassy bombing and the USS Cole, and the the last straw that broke the camels back was when Kuwait came running to the Un/US to come save them and we did, and out of that fear that Saddam would come back for more a base was established for the defense of Kuwait and Saudi.

So no those buildings were not brought down because of people getting attacked in the middle east as that line of "reasoning" goes.

The last decade of war and "innocents" being killed could have been stopped with Bin Laden the inspiration being taken out. but of course that ideology was not prevelant then but it is now.

And i don't see a connection to:
Chinese Media Issues Warning on US Military Shift

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL

They attacked those buildings because of our meddling and attacking people in the middle east.

So You believe ALSO in an eye for an eye,hey?

Typical,coming from you.

reply to post by neo96

Not even close to being accurate. They attacked us on more than one occasion because there were infidels in the holy lands,Saudi Arabia.

Our MILITARY BASES on their lands means interference in their affairs. Their stated motives are:

Sanctions imposed against Iraq
Presence of U.S. military in Saudi Arabia (source: news.bbc.co.uk...)
Support of Israel by United States

So no those buildings were not brought down because of people getting attacked in the middle east as that line of "reasoning" goes.

That is precisely the reason as Al-Quaida stated in their 1996 statement and the above sources. They came straight from the horses mouth. Are you saying that you know their motives better than they do? Are you a part of Al-qauida?

Where do you get your false information from?]

From the first world trade center attack

The reason for the attacks: US Support of Israel, the same as the al-quaida stated reason

he kobar towers

Had lots of US MILITARY personnel in their lands. They do not want some foreign army interfering with their affairs. How would you like it if China came into your backyard and did what they liked?

Beirut embassy bombing

CIA and military personnel in Lebanon in that building. You think they were their handing out muffins?

USS Cole

Once again a US military vessel that got attacked.

We see a pattern here, that they DO NOT WANT USA MILITARY meddling in their affairs or US support for Israel. Get it through your head.

The last decade of war and "innocents" being killed could have been stopped with Bin Laden the inspiration being taken out. but of course that ideology was not prevelant then but it is now.

We created bin laden so we are responsible for the 911 attacks. Want to get the real terrorists? Get the CIA.

And i don't see a connection to: Chinese Media Issues Warning on US Military Shift

Then tell your buddy sonny to not bring up 911, I was merely correcting him.

reply to post by sonnny1


No I do not believe that, I am telling you why they did it. Do you believe in killing women and children? Seems you do if you support these wars which is typical of you.