Am I the only one noticing flaws in my body possibly from our crap city water?

A while back one of my cats got a UTI. The vet advised us to not let him drink tap water while trying to clear it up, instead to opt for filtered water or bottled water. While I was at the health food store getting him some cranberry pills, I noticed they had a little station where you can fill up jugs with reverse osmosis water, so I figured I would try it.

My cats have never been big 'drinkers' (we usually mix water into their wet food to make sure they stay hydrated) but they went nuts for the reverse osmosis water. They're always drinking on their own now. I even gave it a try... might be 'all in my head,' but the reverse osmosis water even 'feels' different in my mouth... almost like drinking silk. The water actually feels smoother.

I only give my cats the reverse osmosis water now (mainly because they actually drink it), and I usually only drink it, as well (although I still drink tap water from time to time). It's only $1.00 for a 2.5 gallon jug refill (you can bring your own jugs, or buy one of theirs for $5 and keep refilling it), so I have no problem buying it, seeing as they sell individual bottles of water for more than that in some places.


*Just wanted to add, the health food store does 'remineralize' the RO water... Reverse osmosis does have its pros and cons (as with most things) - RO is said to flush out the good minerals and is said to be acidic, rather than alkaline, amongst some other things. Just some things to consider... it's not the 'be all, end all' of water filtration.

Here's a video of some guys talking about it:

Dr. Mercola Discusses Reverse Osmosis and Distilled Water (Part 1 of 2)

Are you sure it's not improper diet and lack of exercise?

If not and you eat a perfect diet and exercise a lot....

What about all the chemicals you are in contact daily?

What chemicals you ask?
How about deodorant you put under your arms,
body spray you spray on your skin,
shampoo you put in your hair (and conditioner),
toothpaste you put in your mouth (poison by the way = fluoride),
mouthwash also in your mouth
maybe sunblock?

That's not counting all the stuff you come in contact daily this is just stuff most people put on or in their bodies the first hour of the day.....

Then there are all the chemicals in the food you eat & the refreshments you drink.

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Personally, for me, all my water is filtered through a Berkey Water filter.

I got mine through LPC www.directive21.com...

I said it many times to many people, YOU NEED TO FILTER YOUR WATER!

City, well... it does not matter. Start with a good sediment, cabon filter 2 stage filter. Get the filters that clean down to 1 micron. It's not very expensive either.

Still not good enough for ya? Step it up to Reverse Osmosis, but it might be overkill for drinking water, depending on who you ask.

We all know cholrine and fluoride is bad enough to limit our intake, filter the water and forget about it.

Originally posted by JourPolaire
A while back one of my cats got a UTI. The vet advised us to not let him drink tap water while trying to clear it up, instead to opt for filtered water or bottled water. While I was at the health food store getting him some cranberry pills, I noticed they had a little station where you can fill up jugs with reverse osmosis water, so I figured I would try it.

My cats have never been big 'drinkers' (we usually mix water into their wet food to make sure they stay hydrated) but they went nuts for the reverse osmosis water. They're always drinking on their own now. I even gave it a try... might be 'all in my head,' but the reverse osmosis water even 'feels' different in my mouth... almost like drinking silk. The water actually feels smoother.

I only give my cats the reverse osmosis water now (mainly because they actually drink it), and I usually only drink it, as well (although I still drink tap water from time to time). It's only $1.00 for a 2.5 gallon jug refill (you can bring your own jugs, or buy one of theirs for $5 and keep refilling it), so I have no problem buying it, seeing as they sell individual bottles of water for more than that in some places.

LOL you are correct and in fact its not that the water is silky it just doesn't have the iron and calcium in it.

I put a water softener into a ladies home once with a acid neutrilizer to correct the PH balance of her well. A month later I was called back out to her house because of a complaint.. the lady told me that there is oil getting into her water some how because every time she took a shower the water would just bead off of her and her skin felt oily.

I had to explain once you removed the iron and calcium, plus all the other crap out of the water that shouldn't be there it was suppose to feel this way because the body makes oil for its skin. She had been so use to having the water leave deposits on her skin and dry it out that she actually thought something was wrong when it wasn't doing it any more.

Its all a matter of perspective.

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Lol yeah, I just edited my post because I forgot to mention that... the 'pros and cons' of it.

i had been having pains in major organ locations (liver kidneys heart) and also tiny pains in other areas of my body. none of my doctors could figure out what was wrong with me. i gave up on them pretty quick though. now whenever i feel pain i dissipate it in the shape of a sphere and it goes away.

I haven't been drinking tap water since... well... ever... I even give my dog bottled spring water but a couple days ago didn't have any gallons to give it some and filled up the bowl with "filtered water" from the tap that runs through a GE under the sink filter...

About two hours after she drank the water she started vomiting yellowish bile looking crap... sure... it might be a coincidence... but I don't believe in those thinks so take a guess where I stand on this issue...

By the way... one thing some of you may want to try is thoroughly mixing a 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda into a pint of water (not from the tap) daily and see if that helps you out...

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Fluoride, Teeth, and the Atomic Bomb

www.fluoridealert.org...

To find out what common sources of fluoride are, click here

FLUORIDE HEALTH EFFECTS DATABASE - OVERVIEW PAGE

“Over the past ten years a large body of peer-reviewed science has raised concerns that fluoride may present unreasonable health risks, particularly among children, at levels routinely added to tap water in American cities.”
ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP, July 2005.

"In summary, we hold that fluoridation is an unreasonable risk."
US ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY HEADQUARTERS' UNION, 2001.

“Carefully conducted studies of exposure to fluoride and emerging health parameters of interest (e.g., endocrine effects and brain function) should be performed in populations in the United States exposed to various concentrations of fluoride.”
US NATIONAL RESEARCH COUNCIL, 2006

"I am quite convinced that water fluoridation, in a not-too-distant future, will be consigned to medical history."
Dr. ARVID CARLSSON, Pharmacologist, Nobel Laureate in Physiology and Medicine, 2000.

FLUORIDE ACCIDENTS & POISONINGS (Click for more detail)

Fluoride, the active ingredient in many pesticides and rodenticides, is a powerful poison - more acutely poisonous than lead. Because of this, accidental over-ingestion of fluoride can cause serious toxic symptoms.

Each year there are thousands of reports to Poison Control centers in the United States related to excessive ingestion of fluoride toothpastes, mouthrinses, and supplements.

Water fluoridation accidents, resulting in excess levels of fluoride in water, have been one of the sources of acute fluoride poisoning.

FLUORIDE & DENTAL FLUOROSIS (Click for more detail)

Excessive ingestion of fluoride during the early childhood years can damage the tooth-forming cells, leading to a defect in the enamel known as dental fluorosis.

Teeth impacted by fluorosis have visible discoloration, ranging from white spots to brown and black stains.

According to the Centers for Disease Control, 32% of American children now have some form of dental fluorosis, with 2 to 4% of children having the moderate to severe stages (CDC 2005).

According to Dr. Hardy Limeback, Head of Preventive Dentistry at the University of Toronto, "it is illogical to assume that tooth enamel is the only tissue affected by low daily doses of fluoride ingestion.

FLUORIDE & ALLERGY/HYPERSENSITIVITY (Click for more detail)

As acknowledged by the Physicians' Desk Reference, some individuals are allergic/hypersensitive to fluoride. The largest, government-funded, clinical trial found that 1% of individuals exposed to 1 mg/day of fluoride exhibited allergic/hypersensitive reactions, including skin reactions, gastric distress, and headache.

FLUORIDE & the KIDNEYS(Click for more detail)

The kidneys play a vital role in preventing the build-up of excessive fluoride in the body. Among healthy individuals, the kidneys excrete approximately 50% of the daily fluoride intake. However, among individuals with kidney disease, the kidneys' ability to excrete becomes markedly impaired, resulting in a build-up of fluoride within the body.

It is well recognized that individuals with kidney disease have a heightened susceptibility to the cumulative toxic effects of fluoride.

Of particular concern is the potential for fluoride, when accumulated in the skeletal system, to cause, or exacerbate, renal osteodystrophy - a bone disease commonly found among people with advanced kidney disease.

In addition, fluoride has been definitively shown to poison kidney function at high doses over short-term exposures in both animals and humans. The impact of low doses of fluoride, given over long periods of time, has been inadequately studied. A recent animal study, conducted by scientists at the US Environmental Protection Agency (Varner 1998), reported that exposure to just 1 ppm fluoride caused kidney damage in rats if they drank the water for an extended period of time, while a new study from China found an increased rate of kidney disease among humans consuming more than 2 ppm (Liu 2005). Hence, the adverse effects to kidney function that fluoride causes at high doses over short periods of time, may also be replicated with small doses if consumed over long periods of time.

FLUORIDE & the BRAIN (Click for more detail)

Fluoride's ability to damage the brain represents one of the most active areas of research on fluoride toxicity today.

Concern about fluoride's impact on the brain has been fueled by 18 human studies (from China, Mexico, India, and Iran) reporting IQ deficits among children exposed to excess fluoride, by 4 human studies indicating that fluoride can enter, and damage, the fetal brain; and by a growing number of animal studies finding damage to brain tissue (at levels as low as 1 ppm) and impairment of learning and memory among fluoride-treated groups.

According to the US National Research Council, "it is apparent that fluorides have the ability to interfere with the functions of the brain."

FLUORIDE & the PINEAL GLAND (Click for more detail)

In the 1990s, it was discovered that the pineal gland is a major site of fluoride accumulation within the body - with higher concentrations of fluoride than either teeth or bone.

Subsequent animal studies indicate that the accumulation of fluoride in the pineal gland can reduce the gland's synthesis of melatonin, a hormone that helps regulate the onset of puberty. Fluoride-treated animals were found to have reduced levels of circulating melatonin and an earlier onset of puberty than untreated animals. The scientist who conducted the research concluded:

"The safety of the use of fluorides ultimately rests on the assumption that the developing enamel organ is most sensitive to the toxic effects of fluoride. The results from this study suggest that the pinealocytes may be as susceptible to fluoride as the developing enamel organ" (Luke 1997).

The fact that fluoride's impact on the pineal gland was never studied, or even considered, before the 1990s, highlights a major gap in knowledge underpinning current policies on fluoride and health.

According to the US National Research Council, "any agent that affects pineal function could affect human health in a variety of ways, including effects on sexual maturation, calcium metabolism, parathyroid function, postmenopausal osteoporosis, cancer, and psychiatric disease.”

FLUORIDE & the THYROID GLAND (Click for more detail)

According to the US National Research Council, "several lines of information indicate an effect of fluoride exposure on thyroid function" - particularly among individuals with an iodine deficiency.

Fluoride's potential to impair thyroid function is most clearly illustrated by the fact that -- up until the 1970s -- European doctors used fluoride as a thyroid-suppressing medication for patients with hyperthyroidism (over-active thyroid). Fluoride was utilized because it was found effective at reducing the activity of the thyroid gland - even at doses as low as 2 mg/day.

Today, many people living in fluoridated communities are ingesting doses of fluoride (1.6-6.6 mg/day) that fall within the range of doses (2 to 10 mg/day) once used by doctors to reduce thyroid activity in hyperthyroid patients. This is of particular concern considering the widespread problem of hypothyroidism (under-active thyroid) in the United States. Symptoms of hypothyroidism include obesity, lethargy, depression, and heart disease.

FLUORIDE & BONE DISEASE (Click for more detail)

Excessive exposure to fluoride is well known to cause a bone disease called skeletal fluorosis.

Skeletal fluorosis, especially in its early stages, is a difficult disease to diagnose, and can be readily confused with various forms of arthritis including osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis.

In its advanced stages, fluorosis can resemble a multitude of bone/joint diseases.

In individuals with kidney disease, fluoride exposure can contribute to, and/or exacerbate, renal osteodystrophy.

FLUORIDE & BONE FRACTURE(Click for more detail)

The majority of animal studies investigating fluoride's effect on bone strength, have found fluoride to either have no effect or a negative effect on strength. According to the US National Research Council, "The weight of evidence indicates that, although fluoride might increase bone volume, there is less strength per unit volume."

Studies on human populations consuming fluoride in drinking water have found an association between dental fluorosis and increased bone fracture in children; and between long-term consumption of fluoridated water and increased hip fracture in the elderly.

Carefully conducted human clinical trials - including two "double-blind trials" - have found that fluoride (at doses of 18-34 mg/day for just 1-4 years) increases the rate of bone fracture, particularly hip fracture, among osteoporosis patients.

FLUORIDE & CANCER (Click for more detail)

According to the National Toxicology Program, "the preponderance of evidence" from laboratory 'in vitro' studies indicates that fluoride is a mutagenic compound. Many substances which cause mutagenic damage also cause cancer.

While the concentrations of fluoride causing mutagenic damage in laboratory studies are higher than the concentrations found in human blood, there are certain "microenvironments" in the body (e.g. the bones and the bladder) where the concentrations of fluoride can accumulate to levels comparable to, or in excess of, those causing mutagenic effects in the laboratory.

Fluoride has been found to cause bone cancer (osteosarcoma) in government animal studies and rates of osteosarcoma among young males living in fluoridated areas have been found to be higher than young males living in unfluoridated areas. Osteosarcoma, while rare, is a very serious cancer. Children who develop osteosarcoma face a high probability of death (usually within 3 years) or amputation.

Fluoride exposure has also been linked to bladder cancer - particularly among workers exposed to excess fluoride in the workplace. According to the US National Research Council, “further research on a possible effect of fluoride on bladder cancer risk should be conducted.”

FLUORIDE & the GASTROINTESTINAL TRACT (Click for more detail)

Among people hypersensitive to fluoride, gastrointestinal ailments have been produced following ingestion of 1 mg tablets of fluoride or consumption of 1 ppm fluoridated water.

A single ingestion of as little as 3 mg of fluoride, in carefully controlled clinical trials, has been found to produce damage to the gastric mucosa in healthy adult volunteers. No research on the gastric mucosa has ever been conducted to determine the effect of lower doses with repeated exposure.

FLUORIDE & TOOTH DECAY (Caries)(Click for more detail)

According to the current consensus view of the dental research community, fluoride's primary - if not sole - benefit to teeth comes from TOPICAL application to the exterior surface of teeth, not from ingestion.

Perhaps not surprisingly, therefore, tooth decay rates have declined at similar rates in all western countries in the latter half of the 20th century - irrespective of whether the country fluoridates its water or not. Today, tooth decay rates throughout continental western Europe are as low as the tooth decay rates in the United States - despite a profound disparity in water fluoridation prevalence in the two regions.

Within countries that fluoridate their water, recent large-scale surveys of dental health - utilizing modern scientific methods not employed in the early surveys from the 1930s-1950s - have found little difference in tooth decay, including "baby bottle tooth decay", between fluoridated and unfluoridated communities.

www.fluoridealert.org...

Both my father and I have stomach problems, very acid system, and both fruit and staying slightly hungry seems to relieve it, and taking tums. He says its gallbladder and may need surgery. My doctor wants to test my gallbladder with an ultra sound. I don't intend to allow surgery, and also why would this happen all at once? Same timing.

The legs, mentioned. Are others experiencing joint pain, osteo arthritis type symptoms? Along with leg pains, knee pains, like long distance driving even hurts?

We have no flouride in the water here, its the best water in the country, though flouride isn't good and could still be be contributing with the other cases, its not the cause here.

I was thinking Fukushima myself.

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No idea why you posted that reply to my other post.

Originally posted by boncho
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No idea why you posted that reply to my other post.

It was a mistake that particular post was directed to you as a response to your post to me. I
inadvertently applied it in the wrong place.
Please accept my apology.

The post that was intended to be addressed to you was as follows:

I would also like to apologize for including:
"Fluoride is also used for isolating Uranium Isotopes and much, much more."
as a source of fluoride used in drinking water.That type of fluoride is not used in drinking water.

Again I sincerely apologize for posting such an incorrect and misleading statement.