Queen Jubilee laser beam will set the world alight? what's this all about?

reply to post by DeadSnow


Or what about the American President who shot his load on an interns dress ?

He was a credit to your nation too. Not. Or Nixon and Watergate, Reagan and Iran-Contra, Kennedy screwing everything in a dress ... most US Presidents in office during the Queen's reign have been a disgrace to their office, lets face it.

As a working Brit I feel that the royal family represent the last of what thos country has left in terms of national identity and yes Im aware of their historical European ancestory. The thing is for me the royal family do represnt value for money at least the queen does. I know many students and Communists are against them but honestly only someone not in tune with the real world would think a republic would do us better. I mean look at America, now I love America but does the average American honestly feel that life is more amazing for them in a republic? At the end of the day there is a welfare bill of 150 billion a year, unemployed families taking what amounts to 30k a year in benefits on average. As a working Brit I feel that the these people offer far less value for my tax money than the Royal family. God save the Queen!

reply to post by seeker11


Wow. Very similar thoughts have crossed my mind.
Never heard of MD before.

reply to post by SecretFace


I'd say that both cases are just as vicious.
Just because there are worse cases out there or no alternatives in sight doesn't make it right.

Originally posted by LeBombDiggity
reply to post by DeadSnow

 

Or what about the American President who shot his load on an interns dress ?

He was a credit to your nation too. Not. Or Nixon and Watergate, Reagan and Iran-Contra, Kennedy screwing everything in a dress ... most US Presidents in office during the Queen's reign have been a disgrace to their office, lets face it.

How many times do I have to state that I'm not American? Well all of them are idiots, each and every single one of them except Kennedy (up until his speech.:up. Your post doesn't make the queen look any better.

i'm sure the beacons will be lovely, but when this whole preposterous jubilee 'feelgood' propaganda blitz is over, the hangover will be profound, as the euphoric facade slips and the masses come to terms (even if only subconsciously) with the fact that it was all a temporary distraction from the reality of england disintegrating. next fix - the olympics.

dunno why everyones fighying each other here seems to be a brit v american thing going on

lets face it both systems are f***** because people in positions of power throughout history in both countries have dragged both our proud nations names through the gutter.

until the true power is restored to the PEOPLE it will continue in this vein so lets stop fighting amongst ourselves over who's system is better and lets talk in a civilized manner about what we the people can do to modernize the system to benefit all.


I leave you in the love and light of the creator...

It's quite amusing to me that an ATS contributor and financial sponsor of this site ... Robbie Williams ... is singing to la Reine Elisabeth II in front of Buckingham Palace Londres at the music concert tonight.

Mm. Where to begin with that one.

oh forgot to add im british and watching the festivities on the news as i have to be up in a little over 7 hours for work or i would be out there partying too but like most brits not for the queen but for the perfect excuse for a party,


on another note its also a full moon coincidence?

reply to post by woogleuk


But isn't instilling feelings like patriotism a form of "manufacturing consent" ?

Originally posted by PatriotAct
Someone beam a laser at the queen. Why do the other countries allow her to have beacons lit on their sovereign nations?

Because those other nations realize we all share this globe. That and they all want to be friends with a super power.

Billy Bragg made a good point, just because you enjoy a good party, doesn't mean you are a monarchist. which seems fair enough to me.
I like the pageantry and stuff, bit I'd rather have a republic. (Could use the palaces and the ceremonial stuff for the prez or Lord Protector or whatever we call 'em).

Originally posted by boymonkey74

Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by theGreatunhosed

 

yea,,, are these laser beams paid for by taxpayers? the diamonds as well?

The diamonds belong to the people already as do all of her places of residence, she is a custodian of all the crown jewels etc,she has a job to serve her people and in my view she has done a great job.
A million people went to wish her well and at my place of work 14 people over 90 had a great party and the sherry flowed

they all toasted her and so did I

God save the queen

Yeah brilliant, HILARIOUS!!!, It can be leveraged to incur more debt, making us even more indebted, It is not a "Jubilee" without the forgiveness of debts and a return of LAND to the PEOPLE proper.

What is the frauleins name in Austin Powers "Goldmember?" "Fire the laser!!"

reply to post by The X

Good for you for trying to remind us of the true meaning of Jubilee. I asked at the town office if I maintained my property tax debt minimally if I could claim Jubilee... they said no. lol

Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by Minnie1985

 

It's traditional...

Beacon-lighting... has been used to celebrate royal weddings, jubilees and coronations. Source

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Originally posted by seaside sky
Does anyone remember that old Queen song (a real stupid one) called "Killer Queen"?

The 'real stupid song' that won an Ivor Novello songwriting award? I'm sure none of us has forgotten it. Those with a slightly broader education may also remember this poem by A.E. Housman, written to mark the golden jubilee of Queen Victoria.

From Clee to heaven the beacon burns,
The shires have seen it plain,
From north and south the sign returns
And beacons burn again.

Look left, look right, the hills are bright,
The dales are light between,
Because 'tis fifty years to-night
That God has saved the Queen.

Now, when the flame they watch not towers
About the soil they trod,
Lads, we'll remember friends of ours
Who shared the work with God.

To skies that knit their heartstrings right,
To fields that bred them brave,
The saviours come not home to-night:
Themselves they could not save.

It dawns in Asia, tombstones show
And Shropshire names are read;
And the Nile spills his overflow
Beside the Severn's dead.

We pledge in peace by farm and town
The Queen they served in war,
And fire the beacons up and down
The land they perished for.

"God save the Queen" we living sing,
From height to height 'tis heard;
And with the rest your voices ring,
Lads of the Fifty-third.

Oh, God will save her, fear you not:
Be you the men you've been,
Get you the sons your fathers got,
And God will save the Queen.

– A Shropshire Lad

I wonder whether the current crop of British poets will come up with anything to match that.

edit on 3/6/12 by Astyanax because: of pettifoggery.

Hip! Hip!
And very well said

After reading many, many comments about the monarchy in Britain, now I'm wondering exactly what her realm includes? She's Queen of England, Wales, Scotland, and North Ireland, right? What is her role in Commonwealth nations like Canada?

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Frau Farbissina! (Founder of the militant wing of the Salvation Army).

reply to post by woogleuk


This seems to indicate a little inbreeding in the royal family if you ask me.

The link is to a website including a chart on the passing down of hemophelia starting with Edward Duke of Kent and Victoria Princess of Saxe-Coburg. Notice the re-merging of the family tree with the marriage of Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip. If you don't like the source, find one of your own. This same chart was presented as an example in my genetics textbook.

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reply to post by SecretFace


want to point out that the problem is not what the queen herself costs, but that she is the figure head of the crown, who control sea beds and fishing grounds, and the city of london, not to mention huge amounts of land. I feel she herself is bound by some sense of duty and is not necessarily a bad person, but she maintains the status quo and represents the interests of the crown before the people whether she likes it or not.
the city of london is a blessing in disguise, if the riches of this country were state owned and parliament reformed to be more democratically representative, we could put these resources to much better use. then we wouldn't have "families taking 30k benefits a year" (paraphrased). things need to change beyond what's on offer in terms of parliament, i feel very strongly about this.
oh and, i'm not one, but there is nothing wrong with being a communist, we need communists. and students!
not one of those either.....(or a yank);-)