I make my own liposomal vit C. This stuff is frickin AMAZING!!!!!

Originally posted by varikonniemi
I find it weird that ATS has a strict policy of not talking about drugs, yet it allows this wildly popular thread concerning some experimental drug testing to exist. While banning talk about for instance natural drugs that have been used for thousands and thousands of years. Go figure.

Vitamin C and lethicin are not drugs ...

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I've been wondering if you can do this with other nutrients as well. I would certainly like to hear of your experiences with this.

Very interesting thread indeed, star and flag for the OP.

I will be giving this a go later on in the week when everything I have ordered arrives and will rerport back anything I experience. I have closely followed by sides of the 'debate' in this thread and would like to point out that I will be taking a completely neutral position when exploring this.

To Megamind - Have you had any more noteable effects from this?

reply to post by MegaMind


Technically they are. A drug is any substance introduced into the body that alters normal functioning. The key difference is that Vitamin C and lecithin are not controlled substances.

How much is everyone taking?
I did one tablespoon this AM and am not really feeling anything.
I noticed daynight42 saying...
"but it happened again when I drank more, 13-15 minutes later "on schedule" again."

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by MegaMind

 

Technically they are. A drug is any substance introduced into the body that alters normal functioning. The key difference is that Vitamin C and lecithin are not controlled substances.

By that definition I would say No. Because vitamins don't alter normal function but rather they are required for normal functioning. Drugs are NOT required in order for one to stay alive and function normally but essential nutrients are. Vitamin C is an essential nutrient NOT a drug. (no matter how bad big pharma and their FDA lap dog want them to be)

wiki ...

An essential nutrient is a nutrient required for normal body functioning that either cannot be synthesized by the body at all, or cannot be synthesized in amounts adequate for good health (e.g. niacin, choline), and thus must be obtained from a dietary source.

Essential Vitamins

Essential Vitamins

According to the U.S. National Library of Medicine, there are at least 13 essential vitamins. This list includes vitamins A, C, D, E, K, B1, B2, B3, B6, B12, pantothenic acid, biotin and folic acid. These "essential" vitamins are further divided into water-soluble and fat-soluble vitamins. Water-soluble vitamins are typically used immediately following ingestion or are eliminated as waste through the urine, with the only exception being vitamin B12 with is stored in the liver. Fat-soluble vitamins are stored in fat reserves in specialized cells called adipocytes. Read more: www.livestrong.com...

This definition I found here ...

drug [drʌg] n 1. (Medicine / Pharmacology) any synthetic, semisynthetic, or natural chemical substance used in the treatment, prevention, or diagnosis of disease, or for other medical reasons Related adj pharmaceutical

... could be applied to any food. An orange for example. But the FDA doesn't classify an orange a drug (yet) and neither does anyone else. This definition doesn't match up to your definition anyway.

But back to what brought all this up in the first place. Vitamin C is not a drug in any sense that most people would think of a drug - prescription or otherwise. Therefore, we are not discussing drugs but rather essential nutrients.

reply to post by varikonniemi

I find it weird that ATS has a strict policy of not talking about drugs, yet it allows this wildly popular thread concerning some experimental drug testing to exist. While banning talk about for instance natural drugs that have been used for thousands and thousands of years. Go figure.

I thought vit c is called vitamin c because its a beneficial vitamin.

I think there is a HUGE difference between a vitamin and an illegal drug

Everything we ingest has an effect on us, including various foods. My body feels better when i eat wholesome healthy meals. When i eat junk food, i feel like crap after. Is food then considered drugs as well? Cuz lots of fruits have natural occurring vit c

Alright guy,

Update here and not good, I've had my afternoon serving, about one shot glass full, and now I'm experiencing shooting waves of pain, like a needle jab, in my lower abdomen happening in waves of every 4-6 seconds for a minute then stopping. it's not really extremely painful but enough that I'm taking notice and is discomforting. I am stopping my dose as of right now. My wife had skipped the afternoon shot.

Had the same lunch as always and did not eat anything new.

I worry that the metal from the sonic cleaner might be introduced into this mix as it has a metallic aftertaste....

Originally posted by daynight42
reply to post by AlanQaida

 

I took another sip earlier. No effect at all noticed. I think someone will end up getting an ultrasonic cleaner for a birthday.

$20 lost on the ingredients unless I use the V- C to preserve fruit or something. Suppose it can't hurt to take it as is too.

I think you all have been misled have unrealistic expectations about this stuff. You seem to think that you will get some kind of instant "high" on it. This is a food supplement, not a drug stimulant. What you should be looking for is improved health. Not instantly, but over the coming days and weeks. If you are young and in the peak of health you will likely not see any difference.
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This liposomal thing is not so new.
And a lot of companies are now putting out all kinds of liposomal products. It seems to be the wave of the near future.
Google it. You will be surprized.

Here is a recipe that adds Curcumin and Glutathion to the mix as well as baking soda.
www.pdazzler.com...

One other thing, if people begin to cure cancer with these concoctions you can be sure that it will be demonized and banned after several SWAT team raids. The ultrasonic jewelry cleaners will also be outlawed the same as drug "paraphenalia".

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Is your tub not stainless steel?

reply to post by OhZone

Well six hours in and I still haven't noticed any effects.
My SO said that she felt it was like a Five Hour Energy shot, her's started wearing off about 2:30 and now she wants to take a nap.
And yes it is not new.
If you Google (or Bing) "Brooks Bradley's Homemade Liposomal C Method" you'll see that in his original post he praises Livon Labs and their Liposomal C.
That was back in 2009.
Oddly enough, in one of the forums, Livon Labs actually showed up saying that the homemade version was basically worthless.
Which is funny considering Brooks praised their process but they condemned his technique.
Of course they want to sell their product and would probably down anyone that said they could do their own.
Brooks admitted the homemade version worked about 70% as well as Livon Labs method.

Originally posted by sirric
Alright guy,

Update here and not good, I've had my afternoon serving, about one shot glass full, and now I'm experiencing shooting waves of pain, like a needle jab, in my lower abdomen happening in waves of every 4-6 seconds for a minute then stopping. it's not really extremely painful but enough that I'm taking notice and is discomforting. I am stopping my dose as of right now. My wife had skipped the afternoon shot.

Had the same lunch as always and did not eat anything new.

I worry that the metal from the sonic cleaner might be introduced into this mix as it has a metallic aftertaste....

edit on 4/6/12 by sirric because: (no reason given)

You're an for idiot over doing it like that. Whenever you start something new go easy on it. Take a little at a time slowly increasing it as needed. I can see some of you having catastophic problems if you keep doing it like that.
You are likely having gas pains. Your body is not accustomed to massive doses of never before substances.

Originally posted by MegaMind
reply to post by sirric

 

Is your tub not stainless steel?

Not sure as there is nothing on the box or the web that says if it is or isn't stainless steel, it very well maybe aluminum and in that case I'll be looking for a SS one here shortly.

Nothing about this is dangerous, but as always one must pay attention to the signs of your health to determine if you are doing something right. I'll be halting this until I find out if the tub is SS or aluminum and go slowly forward.

reply to post by OhZone


Gas pains might be possible. I always burp a little after taking it so apparently some gas is generated ...

reply to post by sirric


Mine actually states that it is a stainless steel tub. Looks like stainless steel too. I would definitely be concerned if it was aluminum.

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Also I would like to say that my alertness, focus, energy and mental clarity are still going strong - Day 4. I wonder how I will feel in 3 to 4 weeks.

reply to post by OhZone


I wonder if the reason I'm not having a dramatic result is because I take 5 to 10 grams of C a day anyway and my body is used to this?

Originally posted by AlanQaida

Originally posted by daynight42
reply to post by AlanQaida

 

I took another sip earlier. No effect at all noticed. I think someone will end up getting an ultrasonic cleaner for a birthday.

$20 lost on the ingredients unless I use the V- C to preserve fruit or something. Suppose it can't hurt to take it as is too.

Don't be so quick to give up, I was reluctant as I screwed up the concoction lol.
Also, do you have a fairly good diet? You may not be feeling such drastic effects if you already have a reasonable healthy diet?

Read up my post how I did it, trial and error?

I eat the raw paleo diet + some bread and processed meat that I'm trying to ween myself off of. So, I'd say it's a good diet, but not ideal.

reply to post by MegaMind


In contrast, last night I was tossing and turning more than usual. I have some other factors to consider though. (I take psychotropics.) It could be interfering or amplifying the effects of them.

Originally posted by Sabreblade
How much is everyone taking?
I did one tablespoon this AM and am not really feeling anything.
I noticed daynight42 saying...
"but it happened again when I drank more, 13-15 minutes later "on schedule" again."

I have been sipping it here in there (3-4 times) per day. I don't feel out of the ordinary, but I have plenty of energy usually, especially lately because I've been on a new-to-me perk-me-up pill. (I do not approve of big pharma, but I use some of their products to keep my head on straight.)

Regular exercise is very helpful in raising energy levels. If anyone's is already low, I can see how starting would be an issue though.

Originally posted by OhZone

Originally posted by daynight42
reply to post by AlanQaida

 

I took another sip earlier. No effect at all noticed. I think someone will end up getting an ultrasonic cleaner for a birthday.

$20 lost on the ingredients unless I use the V- C to preserve fruit or something. Suppose it can't hurt to take it as is too.

I think you all have been misled have unrealistic expectations about this stuff. You seem to think that you will get some kind of instant "high" on it. This is a food supplement, not a drug stimulant. What you should be looking for is improved health. Not instantly, but over the coming days and weeks. If you are young and in the peak of health you will likely not see any difference.
------------------------------------------------
This liposomal thing is not so new.
And a lot of companies are now putting out all kinds of liposomal products. It seems to be the wave of the near future.
Google it. You will be surprized.

Here is a recipe that adds Curcumin and Glutathion to the mix as well as baking soda.
www.pdazzler.com...

One other thing, if people begin to cure cancer with these concoctions you can be sure that it will be demonized and banned after several SWAT team raids. The ultrasonic jewelry cleaners will also be outlawed the same as drug "paraphenalia".

Did you read what effects the OP described? It sounds like they were on meth. You can't blame me for wondering those same effects were for me. I'm trying to see if I can get lasting increases of energy too. The recipe makers said to try varying dosages, too.

Just trying to recreate the same pattern for myself.