Hey Guys Did You Know There's No Such Thing As Aids ?

reply to post by EdwardKill


I've watched your vid mate

Read this then we will talk some more, I think there is a much bigger situation here than you have researched

www.angelfire.com...

I will tell that to my friend that is dying of AIDS and see what he has to say about....

Who the hell flagged this crap?

Completely irresponsible to say on a worldwide forum that "...There's No Such Thing As Aids".

Here's what David Icke wrote about this in his book 'Aids - The Great Con Trick'.:

HIV does NOT cause Aids. HIV does not cause anything. A staggering statement given the hype and acceptance by the scientific establishment and, through them, the public that the HIV virus is the only cause of Aids. HIV is a weak virus and does not dismantle the immune system. Nor is Aids passed on sexually. There are two main types of virus. Using the airplane analogy, you could call one of these virus strains a "pilot" virus. It can change the nature of a cell and steer it into disease. This usually happens very quickly after the virus takes hold. Then there is the "passenger" virus which lives off the cell, goes along for the ride, but never affects the cell to the extent that it causes disease. HIV is a passenger virus!

Strange I've heard this before!

The most famous treatment for Aids is AZT, produced by the Wellcome organisation, owned, wait for it, by the Rockefellers, one of the key manipulating families in the New World Order. AZT was developed as an anti-cancer drug to be used in chemotherapy, but it was found to be too toxic even for that! AZT's effect in the "treatment" of cancer was to kill cells - simple as that - not just to kill cancer cells , but to kill cells, cancerous and healthy. The question, and this is accepted even by the medical establishment, was: would AZT kill the cancer cells before it had killed so many healthy cells that it killed the body? This is the drug used to "treat" HIV. What is its effect? It destroys the immune system, so CAUSING Aids. People are dying from the treatment, not the HIV. Aids is simply the breakdown of the immune system, for which there are endless causes, none of them passed on through sex.

This I have heard many times before from no mainstream scientists. People can carry the virus without even knowing they have it. It's only when it's treated it's fatal!!

Question is? Is David Icke, Alex Jones, Christopher Everard and all those other researchers correct?

I wouldn't be shocked to learn they are correct as we all know the NWO's intentions for the Human Race!!

reply to post by EdwardKill


A patient is diagnosed with AIDS when the CD4 count drops below 200 and the viral load is high; up until that point it is still HIV.

reply to post by EdwardKill


There is not enough room on this board to debunk this post.

The 'House of Numbers' should be listed as a HOAX documentary and all threads that base their argument on it binned to the HOAX bin, as they rightfully belong there as dangerous, uninformed, and on the borderline of trolling to continually post this garbage.

Plenty of ATS threads on it already, probably have to read WAY beyond the title as the thread usually starts with someone acting like this is some new revelation, and then piling on trash. Another reason to move it to HOAX.

A basic search could have found this is a duplicate of many more bad threads on this forum. Another reason to pile it somewhere else.

This OP is not brave, he is a troll to start a thread with this, it is old and based on real old 'information' - if you could call it that - and then the OP piles on without the basic understanding of anything he purports to be an expert in. Doesn't even search before posting, doesn't read the forum he posts in. Leaves but one reason to post and that is to troll.

And some people actually do not know this stuff? That amazes me in itself. No wonder this is a dangerous world. Too many people without basic knowledge, logic, and the ability to see things for themself.

This thread should be moved to HOAX. Do NOT ban it, bin it and all like it!

reply to post by EdwardKill

You can trust me when i can say its basically proofen that aids is just a myth and it was a myth created out of anti gayness because aids was originally called grid which stands for gay related immune dieases with then they called aids because it hurt peoples feelings because it was a mean thing to say that only gays get aids even though thats true because gays get aids because of the fact that many of the party lifstyles in urban areas cause aids symptoms but there really not exclusive to gays anyone gets the symtpoms of aids if they do too much partying like drugs and drinking and alcohol.

Senor Troll. Everything you know about this topic is wrong. You apparently read some misinformation and believed it. Critical Thinking is just another way of saying "use your head, think things through, and don't believe every thing you read".

I invite you to try it. You might have a light bulb turn on somewhere above your neck.

Oh, yeah, I really don't know what Barack Obama and Robert Downey, Jr. would do for money, if it wasn't for the great Aids heist.

Bye now O gullible one! Have a good one.

Evidence. A link?

Can also see this thread.

reply to post by EdwardKill

I'll explain more if you people are intertested but i thought i'd just let you guys know that YES AIDS IS NOT REAL DONT WORRY BAOUT IT DONT BE TOO AFRAID LOL.

thats a relief because a have abused alcohol ( good Booze and the best beer money can by) and never associated that the hang over was really the attack of AIDS on my body.

Thanks man

some peoples kids

Human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) is a lentivirus (a member of the retrovirus family) that causes acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS),[1][2] a condition in humans in which progressive failure of the immune system allows life-threatening opportunistic infections and cancers to thrive. Infection with HIV occurs by the transfer of blood, semen, vaginal fluid, pre-ejaculate, or breast milk. Within these bodily fluids, HIV is present as both free virus particles and virus within infected immune cells. The four major routes of transmission are unsafe sex, contaminated needles, breast milk, and transmission from an infected mother to her baby at birth (perinatal transmission). Screening of blood products for HIV has largely eliminated transmission through blood transfusions or infected blood products in the developed world. HIV infection in humans is considered pandemic by the World Health Organization (WHO). Nevertheless, complacency about HIV may play a key role in HIV risk.[3][4] From its discovery in 1981 to 2006, AIDS killed more than 25 million people.[5] HIV infects about 0.6% of the world's population.[5] In 2009, AIDS claimed an estimated 1.8 million lives, down from a global peak of 2.1 million in 2004.[6] Approximately 260,000 children died of AIDS in 2009.[6] A disproportionate number of AIDS deaths occur in Sub-Saharan Africa, retarding economic growth and exacerbating the burden of poverty.[7] An estimated 22.5 million people (68% of the global total) live with HIV in sub-Saharan Africa, which is also home to 90% of the world's 16.6 million children orphaned by HIV.[6] Treatment with antiretroviral drugs reduces both the mortality and the morbidity of HIV infection.[8] Although antiretroviral medication is still not universally available, expansion of antiretroviral therapy programs since 2004 has helped to turn the tide of AIDS deaths and new infections in many parts of the world.[6] Intensified awareness and preventive measures, as well as the natural course of the epidemic, have also played a role. Nevertheless, an estimated 2.6 million people were newly infected in 2009.[6] HIV infects vital cells in the human immune system such as helper T cells (specifically CD4+ T cells), macrophages, and dendritic cells.[9] HIV infection leads to low levels of CD4+ T cells through three main mechanisms: First, direct viral killing of infected cells; second, increased rates of apoptosis in infected cells; and third, killing of infected CD4+ T cells by CD8 cytotoxic lymphocytes that recognize infected cells. When CD4+ T cell numbers decline below a critical level, cell-mediated immunity is lost, and the body becomes progressively more susceptible to opportunistic infections. Most untreated people infected with HIV-1 eventually develop AIDS.[10] These individuals mostly die from opportunistic infections or malignancies associated with the progressive failure of the immune system.[11] HIV progresses to AIDS at a variable rate affected by viral, host, and environmental factors; most will progress to AIDS within 10 years of HIV infection: some will have progressed much sooner, and some will take much longer.[12][13] Treatment with anti-retrovirals increases the life expectancy of people infected with HIV. Even after HIV has progressed to diagnosable AIDS, the average survival time with antiretroviral therapy was estimated to be more than 5 years as of 2005.[14] Without antiretroviral therapy, someone who has AIDS typically dies within a year.[15]

Acquired immune deficiency syndrome or acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) is a disease of the human immune system caused by the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV).[1][2][3] The illness interferes with the immune system, making people with AIDS much more likely to get infections, including opportunistic infections and tumors that do not affect people with working immune systems. This susceptibility gets worse as the disease continues. HIV is transmitted in many ways, such as: sexual intercourse (including oral sex and anal sex); contaminated blood transfusions and hypodermic needles; and exchange between mother and baby during pregnancy, childbirth, and breastfeeding. It can be transmitted by any contact of a mucous membrane or the bloodstream with a bodily fluid that has the virus in it, such as the blood, semen, vaginal fluid, preseminal fluid, or breast milk from an infected person.[4][5] The virus and disease are often referred to together as HIV/AIDS. The disease is a major health problem in many parts of the world, and is considered a pandemic, a disease outbreak that is not only present over a large area but is actively spreading

I suggest you do a little research on the subject before making such insane claims. I have known people with HIV and yes AIDS comes later down the road too many have witnessed the devastation of HIV and what it does to the immune system which is AIDS and very real.

reply to post by Destinyone


Why do you have to be such a jerk about it? You wont bring about change with that attitude.. geez

I can see where your thread is coming from, because I beleive that a lot of things can be manifested through your mental state or what you have it. Im a little on the fence with beleiving this but hey I see where you are coming from OP.

This OP has put up what has to be one of the most irresponsible and misinformed posts on ATS. There is no amount of evidence that is going to persuade someone this deluded of their errors.

What color is the sky in your world??? I am sure there are many families, friends, loved ones, who have prayed endlessly that your assumption is correct. Many left behind after the loss of someone who reads things like this and suffers all over again.

You can call it AIDS, you can call it whatever floats your boat, but the fact remains that there are many folks dying and suffering from A DISEASE that was/is named AIDS. Stick a fork in it and call it GooglyMoogly and people will still continue to die.

If money was the object, then they should claim the meds would keep you alive for your normal lifetime if you took them. Why kill folks off in mass numbers and lose all that monetary goodness instead of letting them live for 80 years with the high priced treatments?

This just blows my mind...

...the proof is by a dr named dr deusenberg and he has proven many times that aids is a fake illness that most people have hiv in them and that if you test them they will have hiv.

I'm confused by this. People are tested for the HIV virus all the time, and often (hopefully for those people) the results come up negative. If, as you contend, "most people" have the HIV virus, then why are there so many people who are tested negative for HIV?

Can you give me the research you did on Dr. Deusenberg and/or his research on this subject that convinced you his statements about "most people having HIV" are valid? I'd be interested to read everything you gathered on Dr. Deusenberg and his findings (the stuff that convinced you this is true) so I can decide for myself.

I'll be looking forward to reading the links you provide.

This member has been banned for posting trolling threads from 3 different usernames simultaneously in an effort to troll our membership.

This thread will now be closed.