How Do We Destroy The Labor/Liberal Duopoly?

Its simple. Vote for Bob Katter. Vote for the Australian Party.

Do we really want Tony Abbott running things? Labor is going to lose at the next election,we all know that. But if anyone remembers Tony Abbott from when he was Health Minister during the Howard Dynasty you will know that he lacks empathy. He is a skull headed, flim flam liar that cannot be trusted. Tony Abbott and his Liberal gang are a bunch of big business corporatists.

Labor are stealth corporatists. Dont be fooled by their 'battlers budget'. Its an election budget. Its also not as sweet as it seems. They wouldnt have to compensate the worker if they were not screwing the worker with their Carbon Tax. But like I said,Labor will lose regardless. If you are a worker there is no sense wasting your vote on Labor just because you know Abbott is an #hole.

And I know its tempting to vote for the Liberals after the insulting way the Labor Party has dealt with the Australian Public. But we dont want corporatists running things when a new GFC looms. We want someone that is for the people. We want someone that is for Australia. We need Bob Katter.

The Duopoly Media will try to make Katter look like a redneck lunatic. They will call him a bigot. When you see this stuff, think about Ron Paul. The duopoly will do everything they can to destroy Katter and his Army. We should not listen to them. Take a look at Katters ideas. He is against the corporatists. He wants to protect Australias Industries. He is for the people Katter is for Australia.

We only have to deal with two corporatist groups in Australia really. They are Wesfarmers and Woolworths. Google those two and you will see that they own Australia. Bob Katter will take them on. Bob Katter wants to limit their Market Share. He will stop them monopolizing everything.

Im sure most people think he is a dumb loud redneck idiot. Just like many in America may think Paul is a looney crazy uncle type. But watch his speeches. Take a look at the Australia Party website. Dont just take the duopoly medias word for it. Look further. You will see that Katter is the only choice for Australia. We must elect Bob Katter and smash the duopoly. Katter will do it.

Katter isnt perfect but he is a better option than Gillard or Abbott. I know thats not hard but thats the point. And he has some great ideas.Take a look.
www.ausparty.org.au...

I forgot about the Greens.

We should all do that.

The Greens are leftist radicals.

The Greens have no honour.

The Greens are bleeding heart liberal morons.

Katter is the only choice.

reply to post by Germanicus


It's simple....vote informally and see what happens next - just for fun.

I agree with your sentiment though, the two party preferred system is a farce and Katter is shaping as a legitimate alternative....not so sure that he'll appeal to the "Liberal" type voter though.

reply to post by Perhaps



We need to smash the duopoly.

The Katter Army will march on the duopoly!

All I can remember about the libs is that they were great at crowing about how they were managing the economy and we were always in surplus while the pensioners were doing it tough. There they were piling away the dollars and letting those in need suffer. They shouldn't even be allowed to use the air that the rest of us are using. And now the STUPID public can't see the complete lies and negativity of Abbott. This blokes such a joke that they even have a town named after him over in the ME. It's called Abbottabad (oh well, at least THEY understand).

Originally posted by steve1709
All I can remember about the libs is that they were great at crowing about how they were managing the economy and we were always in surplus while the pensioners were doing it tough. There they were piling away the dollars and letting those in need suffer. They shouldn't even be allowed to use the air that the rest of us are using. And now the STUPID public can't see the complete lies and negativity of Abbott. This blokes such a joke that they even have a town named after him over in the ME. It's called Abbottabad (oh well, at least THEY understand).

I agree. I turned away from labor when Beazley was running against Howard. His pandering to the Private Education system marked a change in direction for labor as far as I was concerned. They are much the same now. And yeah,the Liberals were good at running the economy but not great at spreading the wealth. I think Abbott will be much worse than Howard as far as low-socio economic families/citizens go.

I miss the Democrats. But I honestly think Katter is the best available realistic chance we have of smashing the duopoly. He isnt perfect but he is better than labor and liberal. Thats not hard.

I do like Katter as an alternative, but I have to give credit to the liberals for backing and rewarding those that want to have a go. If you are willing to work hard and invest under a liberal government you can be rewarded.
Under labour it seems the more you try the more they take, it is just so hard to get ahead with these clowns wasting my tax dollars. There are no good options under labour except to save your cash and wait for the change.
I would definitely like to see Bob take some seats from labour but I believe the liberals need a strong majority in the next term to make some significant corrections to our system, then I would like to see Katters party step up.

Giving a Flag as my vote for change.

reply to post by UsualSuspect


I agree. I would actually vote liberal before labor just like if I was an American I would vote Romney over Obama. But Im sick of the major parties taking advantage of us and the insulting way they speak to the public. Im sick of those jerks knowing that the worst thing that can happen to them is they become opposition for a few years.

I say smash em. Decimate those #ers. I loved seeing what happened to labor in QLD recently. Thats what they need on the Federal level. To be wiped out.

"We" on you

Originally posted by redneck13
"We" on you

Ha!

You just gave me a tumor.

I hate to sound ignorant but I'm not really up on Australian politics.

I enjoyed reading about The Australian Party in the link you provided.

I must say it's all very familiar and pretty similar to the Labour / Conservative Party scenario we have here in the UK.
Very little difference between the two party's nowadays and they both seem hell bent on maintaining the status quo.
In the last election here in the UK many people thought they were voting for change when they voted for the LibDems, how wrong they've been proved to be as their leader Clegg sold his soul, and his parties integrity, for 30 pieces of silver and a couple of minor Cabinet positions.
The Lib Dems have had no effect whatsoever on Tory policy and this administration is more repressive than any I have known and as such the LibDems are complicit in dragging the UK backwards towards the 19th Century.

I don't know how likely it would be but I sincerely hope you don't end up with a hung parliament like we did.

Which leads me to point out that maybe the problem doesn't really lie with the party's as such but rather the root cause is the restrictive and dogmatic nature of the party political system as a whole.
Certainly in the UK this has led to a situation where adherence to party line and political dogma takes precedence over the interest's and wishes of the electorate.

I suspect that thing's may not be too dissimilar in Australia.

Urgent and drastic reform of both the electoral and parliamentary processes are required.

Personally I see no reason why some form of Direct Democracy can not be introduced including devolved power to the regions, increased use of referendums on both local and national issues, the power of recall etc can not be implemented.
This would result in the people having a real and genuine say in the governing of their own countries.

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by Freeborn


Thats not igonrant at all. Most Ausralians are unfamiliar with Australian Politics

And yes,very similar. Its an extension really. Tory=Liberal , Labour=Labor. (not sure what happened to the u )

And I agree with what you say about party lines. I could not agree more.

Politics compromises good people. The honest politician with good intentions is forced to bend to the will of his party. Its a very bad set up.

Edit- Bob Hawke was a great Prime Minister. He ran things by consensus. And consensus of the public,not his party. He was a good man that loved Australia.


edit- he is still with us Was a good Prime Minister that loved his country. I havent seen a Prime Minister since that has given me that impression. Personal gain seems to be the primary motivation of the Prime Ministers since Mr 75%


Edit- we also have the dilema that the party is always bending for someone as well. Those big donations are not for nothing.

reply to post by Germanicus


What I know and can recall of Bob Hawke he seemed a genuine and pragmatic sort of guy.

The days of popular politicians and politicians of the people seem to be over; they all seem to be self-advancing, carear minded and amoral drones who are obsessed with toeing the party line.
They lack personal conviction or a sense of duty and responsibility to the people they are supposed to represent and whose interests they are supposed to promote.

One of the few remaining British politicians I have any respect for is Frank Field.
en.wikipedia.org...(politician)

I've never agreed with all of his beliefs but he has always been true to himself and his values, has always called things as he's seen it and has tried his best for his constituents.
A man of integrity and worthy of our respect.

reply to post by Freeborn


I know what you mean. Integrity is rare in politics. Its impossible not to respect it when you see it even if it comes from someone that you dont always agree with.

I moved to Queensland for better weather. Sure didn't move here for intellectual companionship. Labor is only at 23%. How can soooo many people in Qld be so dumb as to not realise that Labor were the ones who actually GOT AUSTRALIA THROUGH THE GFC with minimal hurt, and that LABOR ARE AT LAST helping out pensioners (both disabled and aged) let's face it, the aged set up the strong foundations in Australia for today and the LIBS treated them with contempt. So, when Labor does bad in the next federal election in Queensland, I will be happy to watch all of the turn coats fall in a screaming heap under the Libs and their phoney Toney leader. Heck! He even told us NOT TO TRUST WHAT HE SAYS. He's one big negative mutha. He has NO policies that will benefit the needy, and is simply hypocritical when it comes to his "beliefs" and what he says and does. Good ol George W B used to, and still does make my stomach turn just thinking of how pathetic he was as President of the most powerful country in the world and Phoney Tony is almost as bad. Oh well, at least I'm now completely off the grid in a country area. It'll be fun to watch, even if it will be very sad watching so many people go to the dogs.