Astronaut Gordon Cooper's UFO encounter and Government deniability

Here we have a case where an astronaut encountered a classic disc UFO with landing tripod.

Film and pictures were sent up the chain of command to Washington D.C.

So how can the White House claim it has no info on the subject of UFO's???

reply to post by NotReallyASecret


Prove there was government deniability......Or who Gordon Cooper is......Or anything for that matter when you start a thread my friend....

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How can the government identify something that is unidentified? That is a strange question. No they don't have information on things they have not identified, it makes sense. Saying it is unidentified implies that there is no information about it.

This video may shed more light on the OP for people who don't know what he/she is talking about

White House denial

www.huffingtonpost.com...


Gordon Cooper's account is in many UFO documenaries such as Out of the Blue. Here is one youtube vid:

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
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Prove there was government deniability......Or who Gordon Cooper is......Or anything for that matter when you start a thread my friend....

I m no american but when you say who Gordon cooper is it sounds strange because i believe he is a Hero over there.He was the last to be launced to space and did solo an orbital mission

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heres a document from national security on their official sight "Communications with Extraterrestrial Intelligence"

www.nsa.gov...

Originally posted by IMSAM

Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
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Prove there was government deniability......Or who Gordon Cooper is......Or anything for that matter when you start a thread my friend....

I m no american but when you say who Gordon cooper is it sounds strange because i believe he is a Hero over there.He was the last to be launced to space and did solo an orbital mission

edit on 10-5-2012 by IMSAM because: (no reason given)

Sorry but you missed my point....It has nothing to do with me not knowing....I was offering information to the OP that there is something supposed to be added to a thread started, to assist the reader in what you are talking about.......3 lines of text with nothing else is not enough information....

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That "document" is for a training exercise and does not reflect anything that is real or anything that matters.

Originally posted by NotReallyASecret
Here we have a case where an astronaut encountered a classic disc UFO with landing tripod.

Film and pictures were sent up the chain of command to Washington D.C.

So how can the White House claim it has no info on the subject of UFO's???

I think James Oberg debunked this years ago, but I could be mistaken. He goes by Jim Oberg on this site.

EDIT - Here, look at the Gordon Cooper section of this page.

www.jamesoberg.com...

Originally posted by BIGPoJo

Originally posted by NotReallyASecret
Here we have a case where an astronaut encountered a classic disc UFO with landing tripod.

Film and pictures were sent up the chain of command to Washington D.C.

So how can the White House claim it has no info on the subject of UFO's???

I think James Oberg debunked this years ago, but I could be mistaken. He goes by Jim Oberg on this site.

How would you debunk it, since Gordon Cooper has given many interviews on this?

Go on Youtube.

I just don't see why Cooper decided these UFOs he and others saw were of extraterrestrial origin. He is an intelligent man but his logic in this matter escapes me. Just because something is fast and saucer shaped does not make it from another planet.

Originally posted by earthdude
I just don't see why Cooper decided these UFOs he and others saw were of extraterrestrial origin. He is an intelligent man but his logic in this matter escapes me. Just because something is fast and saucer shaped does not make it from another planet.

Yes it does, if it is ridiculously fast.

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No it does not. Lets put this into perspective. The B2 bomber was secret for a long time and when people saw it they thought it was a alien spacecraft. I remember as a kid seeing the thing revealed to the news on national TV. I asked my parents why they would reveal a secret aircraft. The answer is simple, they already have newer ones that they are not telling us about that are in service. The cutting edge of the secret aircraft department is about 50 years ahead of the commercial efforts. Soon however, the newer tech will be revealed. The one in service now is claimed by many to be the TR3-B which supposedly uses electro-gravity tech but I don't have proof of such claims.

Here we have a case where an astronaut encountered a classic disc UFO with landing tripod.

Here we have a case where an astronaut did not encounter anything.
He did not witness it. He was not there. He is repeating what the film crew described. And there is some question about whether the film crew actually described a landing.

As to the accuracy of the rest of Cooper's recollection of the "Edwards UFO", eyewitness Gettys had this to say in 1982: "I am amazed that Gordon Cooper said the object landed -- as far as I know, he never even saw it.... His story sounds kind of funny to me." And Gettys -- who still does not believe the '"weather balloon" explanation -- was there; Cooper, contrary to legend, played no role at all.

www.zipworld.com.au...

Originally posted by BIGPoJo
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No it does not. Lets put this into perspective. The B2 bomber was secret for a long time and when people saw it they thought it was a alien spacecraft. I remember as a kid seeing the thing revealed to the news on national TV. I asked my parents why they would reveal a secret aircraft. The answer is simple, they already have newer ones that they are not telling us about that are in service. The cutting edge of the secret aircraft department is about 50 years ahead of the commercial efforts. Soon however, the newer tech will be revealed. The one in service now is claimed by many to be the TR3-B which supposedly uses electro-gravity tech but I don't have proof of such claims.

Various stealths and advanced human aircraft, are pretty basic rocket propelled machines.

UFO's are something else entirely

Originally posted by Phage

Here we have a case where an astronaut encountered a classic disc UFO with landing tripod.

Here we have a case where an astronaut did not encounter anything.
He did not witness it. He was not there. He is repeating what the film crew described. And there is some question about whether the film crew actually described a landing.

As to the accuracy of the rest of Cooper's recollection of the "Edwards UFO", eyewitness Gettys had this to say in 1982: "I am amazed that Gordon Cooper said the object landed -- as far as I know, he never even saw it.... His story sounds kind of funny to me." And Gettys -- who still does not believe the '"weather balloon" explanation -- was there; Cooper, contrary to legend, played no role at all.

www.zipworld.com.au...

You are right. He may not have witnessed the landing. But he handled the film and photos which he relayed further up the chain of command.

So the government is hiding something..............which is my main point.

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How would you debunk it, since Gordon Cooper has given many interviews on this?

That's not sound logic. I think you're struggling with this thread and your thoughts. Gordon has no evidence to back up his claims on this incident. The onus is on Cooper to provide evidence that this was true; until this can be done, there really is no need to debunk or believe him. I do believe the other airmen who were supposedly with Gordon during this encounter denied this ever took place.

Originally posted by NotReallyASecret

Originally posted by earthdude
I just don't see why Cooper decided these UFOs he and others saw were of extraterrestrial origin. He is an intelligent man but his logic in this matter escapes me. Just because something is fast and saucer shaped does not make it from another planet.

Yes it does, if it is ridiculously fast.

Where is the logic here? No offense, but this thread is going nowhere because of logic like this. I would suggest reading some experienced members posts and threads to really learn how to articulate and present threads, information, debates, arguments, etc.

1. Prove he saw a UFO
2. Prove he sent material up the chain
3. The government denies because there is absolutely NO proof, besides speculation, that Gordon Cooper witnessed or was even present, to witness such events.

Zero proof.